WB/Jav/Basing Cup For Dummies

[Dreamwin]

I think you should make a forum poll with simple yes or no alternatives. Ogron surely could make a special rule just this time.

Question: Do you want to play wb cup with Jessup, pawner, jb-inc?

Allow everyone who votes "yes" to join Jessup's team. Transparent and democratic.

[Rab]

Just make Jessup 10* then it's cool.

[Jessup]

For the record, if people refuse to play for a specific Captain or Core before a season even begins they exemplify everything wrong with this zone currently. It's a lame defense to exclude people from being allowed to Cap draft leagues and makes room for league abuse and even normalizes it. Choosing people by a "cool" factor is a very limiting approach and until a Captain or Core give players a reason [B]during[/B] the season to have a beef over leadership management it is well.. going to limit the fair use of the Trench Wars community at large.

I strongly support allowing lower star caps/cores in draft leagues. I suggest we allow 7 and 8 stars only to captain say next TWDT. The musical chairs a small click of people keep doing over and over has gone on for years and it's getting quite stale.

[Vehicle]

Thanks for clarifying ogron. I guess I got my wires crossed regarding a/b leagues with all the conversation going on.

This is even better for you, jessup, since you can just submit a full line if you can't find a couple ten stars to play with you or just wait to be drafted.

[ogron]

[QUOTE=Jessup;n1359054]

I'd like to make a core and participate in the draft. I fail to see how this is an issue. The 3 of us don't have to start together every match together and I assume we would be drafting 5 or more other warbirds.

What is this "main" league? Aren't all cores participating in the same draft for each cup division? Ogron was saying there would be star value limits placed on stronger cores and giving more star value picks for lesser core strengths. I'm just trying to participate. [/QUOTE]

As stated in the main post:

[quote](Teams that aren't strong enough to be allowed into the draft can enter with a full line of low-starred players to participate and gain experience. Ram Ranch wants to play WB Cup and will field a low-star line not part of the draft.)[/quote]

There is only one WB Cup, every team will be playing in the same league.

I am only accepting strong cores with high-starred players for the draft. Ram Ranch and Paladen can submit full lines of low-starred players to participate in WB Cup, but:

1) I don't think the majority of warbirds are willing to play for Jessup, Pawner, and J-B-Inc
2) I don't think there will be enough high-star talent in the draft to "catch up" to the strong cores

I think there will be enough talent for a good core a few stars behind to get close, but I don't think a trio of 7*s will find enough willing high-star talent to win.

If you can convince a bunch of elite warbirds to get drafted by Paladen and/or Ram Ranch, I will add one or both those teams to the WB Cup draft. I personally am fine with this, but my responsibility is to all the warbirds entering the draft, and I think they would simply refuse to play if picked by your team.

[Vehicle]

[USER="3589"]Jessup[/USER] The point of the "cores" is that you will be the starters for your team. Think of it as forming half a squad and then drafting the rest of your team. To make the season fun, Ogron is trying to artificially force some level of parity.

There's already one core and it's RaCka, Lockdown and Turban. In order to sign up as a core, your group of three would have to be able to compete against those 3 on paper. Could you be part of a core? Probably. But you need to find two 9*/10* players to sign up with you.

As for what the difference between the main and secondary league is: The secondary league doesn't really matter and is basically just scheduled TWD games on the weekend as far as I know. It's a way to let cores of non-competitive players still have scheduled game times. I'm personally not a fan of B leagues as I don't think we have the population for it, but it's basically an effort at inclusion.

[Rab]

[QUOTE=Vehicle;n1359053][USER="3589"]Jessup[/USER] the idea is that you start with a super strong core and then draft weak players, not the other way around.
[/QUOTE]
quote of the tournament. :cool:

[Jessup]

[QUOTE=Vehicle;n1359053][USER="3589"]Jessup[/USER] the idea is that you start with a super strong core and then draft weak players, not the other way around. There's currently only one warbird core signed up:

1. Rage -- RaCka, Lockdown, Turban

Now, you plan to roll in with you, pawner and jb inc. Even if you get to draft two warbirds of your choice, do you think your line will be competitive?

You still can play with your core, just not in the "main" league. Its not specifically against you so please don't try to turn it into that. Ogrons genuinely just trying to force some parity while letting some strong players squad with their friends.
[/QUOTE]

I'd like to make a core and participate in the draft. I fail to see how this is an issue. The 3 of us don't have to start together every match together and I assume we would be drafting 5 or more other warbirds.

What is this "main" league? Aren't all cores participating in the same draft for each cup division? Ogron was saying there would be star value limits placed on stronger cores and giving more star value picks for lesser core strengths. I'm just trying to participate.

[Vehicle]

[USER="3589"]Jessup[/USER] the idea is that you start with a super strong core and then draft weak players, not the other way around. There's currently only one warbird core signed up:

1. Rage -- RaCka, Lockdown, Turban

Now, you plan to roll in with you, pawner and jb inc. Even if you get to draft two warbirds of your choice, do you think your line will be competitive?

You still can play with your core, just not in the "main" league. Its not specifically against you so please don't try to turn it into that. Ogrons genuinely just trying to force some parity while letting some strong players squad with their friends.

[Jessup]

[QUOTE=ogron;n1359048]

you'll have to submit a full team to WB Cup, as that line is not strong enough to captain a core that will be part of the draft.

i recommend getting 7-8 players together from Paladen. i'll add your group to cores sheet as a non-drafting team.[/QUOTE]

The draft with my core could easily resolve any weaknesses compared to other cores. All 3 of these people have captained TWL and played for years. What is a "strong" core to you? This was an open ended statement that seems to have bias involved. How is allowing Paladen to join with 7 players but at the same time getting removed from the community draft even fair or logical? I appeal this decision.

[ogron]

[QUOTE=Jessup;n1359045]TWDD CUP CORE Jessup, J-b-inc and Pawner. Ty for this[/QUOTE]

you'll have to submit a full team to WB Cup, as that line is not strong enough to captain a core that will be part of the draft.

i recommend getting 7-8 players together from Paladen. i'll add your group to cores sheet as a non-drafting team.

[saiyan]

[QUOTE=Jessup;n1359045]TWDD CUP CORE Jessup, J-b-inc and Pawner. Ty for this[/QUOTE]

Someone took the "For Dummies" part too literally.

[Jessup]

TWDD CUP CORE Jessup, J-b-inc and Pawner. Ty for this

[Riverside]

Ty 4 this

HYPE

[RaCka]

Thanks for the break down Oggy
CUP HYPE!~!