TWDT Hot or Not -- Finals Edition

[zidane]

thanks to everyone who helped run the league (ops,hosts,HoN writers,and people who recorded)

XD nvm im a nice guy now

[PrOnEsSim]

Great season! Wish I had played more, but due to work commitments I couldn't. Would also like to thank the following people for making it more entertaining while in discord:

Markmrw, Banks, Attacks, porkjet, Spezza, Holy Ship, Up in Ya, wiibimbo, etc. Anyone else I have forgotten, sorry!

[Rasaq]

Maybe next TWDT I'll have a lower rating for base so I can play more... think i went 2-0 as a spid and 1-0 as a shark, but I got sat for some garbage FA pickups. It is what it is. I get no credit in the only division I care about.

[Banks]

Awesome season. Thanks to the people who helped put this thing together! Fun memories that will stay with me for a life time!

Cheers!

[Rab]

Feel free to give me less stars next season. Ty.

[Ricko]

should we consider dropping the 8* limit of 3 in jav and wb to 2 to promote more low stars getting game time? That also might increase the amount of teams we can have as tbh the issue isn't 8*+ players showing, its all the players who are 7* and below who after a week or two into a season realise they are going to ride the bench so just stop logging in.

For basing we could drop it down again although I feel basing is probably fine as it is?

Just fuel for thought on how we can maximise the reach of TWDT to be more inclusive...although I'm conscious the obvious issue is reducing the quality of matches in wb and jav.

[Rab]

I get the idea that the format helps people get involved, but it means someone gives up their spot for that, and it's at the mercy of whoever does the ratings. I've been 5, 6, 7, and 8 star. So I've been both on the winning and losing side of the format. I have one of the best attendance records, all I want to do is show up and be able to play. I don't want to give up my spot for someone else.

The more rigid the rules, the more likely they are to prevent someone like me from being able to play. I think that's just as important as trying to get others to play. Generally the higher rated players are the most active and I think that should be rewarded, not punished.

[Wazzaaa.nl]

... Generally the higher rated players are the most active and I think that should be rewarded, not punished.

true true
but don't they already have their time to shine in TWL
not sure what the basics is about TWDT, but i always thought it as a league that's newb-friendly
unlike TWL, cause TWL is for the experts
and TWDT was the league where new players could shine and make a name
and might get picked up by the TWL squads/ the pro groups to further develop their talent
i think ricko is making a good point/ food for thought
just my 2 cents

[Henry Saari]

Strictly thinking and talking as a player here. There should be a way to reward activity and high show up rates. I was stuck at bench whole TWDTB season, playing only few games which hardly had any meaning (Boring games where you can try to beat your terr's record), starting in wb and jav which I've never played on the level that I would make myself a starter (thanks to zidane tho I feel like contributing towards the medals Power won). The only lucky thing is we somehow managed to win games with a pure baser as a starter. While the player who took my spot is good and has won numerous medals in TWL - I've not played TWL long enough to match him and he does not show up for anything but that one hour on Sundays. I on the other hand host and play base on daily basis. The only thing I was looking forward to was starting TWDTB and my interest towards this format as a player has gone down a bit.

Probably most will just crack jokes about this, that's priceless and expected. However with this being our only real and competitive league at the moment - how either of us are ever going to be played or have our rating re-checked for example if we don't get to play when it may matter? There is no way to change your rating, nobody cares to look at go base for example. Secondly as we have newer players we should probably look towards weighing the ratings based on other things than for example TWL history. Investing on future should be our task more than securing playing time for the same players year after year.

[kess]

true true
but don't they already have their time to shine in TWL
not sure what the basics is about TWDT, but i always thought it as a league that's newb-friendly
unlike TWL, cause TWL is for the experts
and TWDT was the league where new players could shine and make a name
and might get picked up by the TWL squads/ the pro groups to further develop their talent
i think ricko is making a good point/ food for thought
just my 2 cents

There is no TWL anymore, it got scraped in favor of TWDT(and rightly so). The vets are the only reason this game still exists, especially the competition, no way you should remove their spots. Too many vets get benched already. IMO i think its fine as it is, impossible to make everyone happy.

[Jones]

huge thanks to all who contributed by capping, making videos, writing h&n's, hosting and running the league. Congrats to those who won and reached finals.

thanks claus for stepping up, making banners and writing great pieces like this. but most importantly; thanks for this thing:

The Winning team is in the top, gold bordered box, while the Runner-Up is in the bottom, silver bordered box.

[Omega Red]

There is no TWL anymore, it got scraped in favor of TWDT(and rightly so). The vets are the only reason this game still exists, especially the competition, no way you should remove their spots. Too many vets get benched already. IMO i think its fine as it is, impossible to make everyone happy.

Kess is right. As you erode more veteran spots you will open more spots for the casuals. There is a reason these players suck, they usually dont care enough to play (or even show up on Sundays) and have low game iq.

I can speak personally from my experience on Brexit, our low star players in basing/jav never showed or cared enough to practice consistently causing the overall team consistency/performance to suffer. There were times where we had multiple high star basers in spec (mostly me) and could barely scrap together low star suck-asses to even have 8.

[olde]

More, smaller teams. Allows more ppl to play. But then the risk of no shows. So its a very delicat thing.

[Ricko]

my intention with the idea of reducing 3 8* players to 2 8* players in wb/jav was not to reduce game time for vets, but actually to see if we could increase the number of teams in the league by spreading out the higher * players across more teams so that more 7* and lower pilots can play too.

It's only an idea - doesn't really matter to me if it changes or stays as it is, I like how it is at the moment.

[Attacks]

Honestly more people got to play in twl who were not so hot, all these stars ratings mean for captains is we look for the most broken 6 star and 7 stars in each league (other caps please dont say you dont also do this), usually people who are high stars in other leagues are picked to keep them happy for not playing in their main league, my opinion is still pick players as normal, more teams and scrap star limits. Or just do another twl, least people get a chance to play on paladen or spark instead of getting overlooked in twdt


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