Plans for next season

[Majorcrisis2]

I am willing to coordinate next twl or twdt. But I kinda wanna make changes to both of last seasons of these leagues.

In short twl: very strict roster caps.
Wb or jav 7 roster
Wb and jav 8 roster
Base 10, maybe 11 roster
Wb or jav with base is 12
All is 13
I feel like 95% of tw plays every league anyway. Yea it might not make it as competitive as bigger rosters... But i think this is good enough. Mostly its the same ppl playing anyway.
Base and duel can be seperate roster again.

Twdt:
Atleast get 6-8 similar caps. The difference between afghan and nipple vs the rest was just too much in stars and experience. I think its hard to get 8 pro multi leagues to cap. But decent 7-8 star players could do the work imo. Atleast then everyone kinda needs to work on every league.
And I would like to bring the 1-100 rating back. There are enough players who are neither a 7 or 8, 6 or 7 and so on. With the star cap this is more interesting than when it was tested out.

I would also love to see seperate base ratings possible, or allow players to 'ban' one of their ships. But this might need some tests etc first.





Would like you guys your input on if you like the ideas and what league to do.

[Efhat]

Whatever we decide to do, I think the announcement should be made by next finals. So people are aware before the holiday break and we come back looking forward to whatever is going to happen.

[ronaldinho]

lower base cap to 65* as 3/8 teams this season weren't able to field a 67* lineup even with everybody showing which is an unrealistic expectation to begin with

Beam lying again, at best only one team couldn't field a 67* lineup : Criminal, 65* at best. Demacia could field 67* including 2 players that has never shown. Nothing else. Lowering to 65* is stupid, 66* is enough.

[beam]

lower base cap to 65* as 3/8 teams this season weren't able to field a 67* lineup even with everybody showing which is an unrealistic expectation to begin with

[Tiny]

anything but twdt again LOL... please no

I Can't wait to pick kado again.

[kado]

anything but twdt again LOL... please no

[ronaldinho]

I think we're underestimating the server being down for some times last season. Also the playoff format didn't help.

One thing I would love a non-playing Ease as head of next TWL, like he did in TWDT. It require even less involvement indeed.

[ogron]

They tried Amateur league alongside TWL and it flopped. I don't think trying a failed idea under worse circumstances is the solution.

TWL should be run infrequently, and last no longer than 6 weeks, with a TWDT season planned and announced immediately afterwards, so the zone's population doesn't tank.

[ronaldinho]

Separating base is the best way to have only two teams getting all the best duelers AND all the best basers. ie it's good for Zidane and Dreamwin, not for others. ie it's shit.

[ronaldinho]

TWDT is a competitive league, it does a pretty good job of including newer players.. however its purpose isn't to allow every single player to play, usually the captain of the team will add the lineup that gives the team the best chance to win. There just arent enough teams (or caps) to allow every single player to play.

If a captain were to add a bunch of bad players with the purpose to share playing time they would get flamed insanely badly by their team (and lose). TWDT is not practice time, do that in twd/elim/base/wbduel/javduel to prove you deserve to play.

TWL in this sense is better at including everyone because a player can control their play time a lot better. Problem with twl then becomes the disparity in strength of the teams and then these same people will have a new thing to complain about. Put in some work and your situation will improve, just like all things in life...

I'm totally with this. TWDT is excellent as it is, and every players can find his place. It can take times of course, but if you never practiced football and join a team, you won't play games of course. You gonna first practice then practice then practice and when the coach think you can help the team, you gonna play. And you pay to join an amateur team, you don't pay to play subspace. I find TWDT excellent as it is, and I'm satisfy with my treatment. It's hard to have playtime, but I don't practice that much, so I won't improve magically, so I won't play unless of a lack of activity from teammates. I see no problem with this. TWDT is a competitive game, TWD is a practice game. I remember when I was in Melee, my team were trying to find a good player from other team to borrow to help them instead of asking the shitty hellrazor to play, and when I asked to play I felt like I was unwanted, just another player to fill the roster indeed. In TWD, so PRACTICE. People are retarded. Leave TWDT as it is, and DO YOUR BEST TO ALLOW SHIT PLAYERS TO PLAY TWD. Fuck.

Also Commodo's idea to implement other zones leagues or dead leagues of tw is interesting. Personally I would not like it to be in TWDT, but if we can add different leagues with different gameplay it would be huge.

Also Turban is right, spider is the most skilled ship, incredibly boring, despite base being fun, but incredibly hard to handle.

Also Qan's idea to implement an amateur league is interesting, but not for TWDT, for TWL. Imo.

[Dreamwin]

not taking shots at any one person but yah something is broken when same 5-7 people are playing, either make the teams smaller or set a minimum game rule.

I've been talking about this for years. Make the teams radically smaller and improve borrowing system. TWL could have 14 wb/jav teams easily because it's the same people who will play all over again anyway. Roster limit of 6 players for dueling divisions is more than enough with the ability to borrow 6* player to avoid random forfeits. Short season so it doesn't make u commit for a long period of time. Roster size is same for 2-league squads so 1-2 squads can not hoard all the top wbs AND all the top javs and it creates some diversity. Base could be separate again.

Look at the history books, there aren't more than 7 players listed and if there are, it is likely that the fillers have been subbed in meaningless games to get playing time and/or to meet the medal criteria.

[yoast]

sitting half a team is not increasing activity.

not taking shots at any one person but yah something is broken when same 5-7 people are playing, either make the teams smaller or set a minimum game rule.

i'm not here to compete and win titles just to play one of my favourite games once in a while

- harder

[olde]

All I was saying is TWDT works pretty well as is. Leave it be..


If anything allow trades all the way up until the LAST week before playoffs to allow teams to become more competitive by picking up unused players from other rosters. Which also doubles as getting players off the bench.


You guys in favor of changing it to "Protwdt' or w/e you're calling it is just going to make a huge chunk of the zone lose interest to log on. Than what? Right now you have elim, basing games, and Twd all running daily for the first time in YEARS. Old guys coming back, people from other zones playing, and even some pubbers taking the step to compete. But most of them been logging on to practice/be sharp for the back to back to back TWDT seasons. So when you tell them they are not included in the new league they are more then likely just going to go ghost and boom you lose 1/3 of your population.
If you wanna do somthing elite do a TWL where they can make there own squads and have a reason to log on, practice and step up their game with Hope's of an invite, they control their own destiny. I'm sure there would be vets willing to step up and try to carry a underdog squad.

I'm just throwing out ideas of what's best for the game, not what the mouth breathing try hard nerds want.

[zidane]

TWDT is a competitive league, it does a pretty good job of including newer players.. however its purpose isn't to allow every single player to play, usually the captain of the team will add the lineup that gives the team the best chance to win. There just arent enough teams (or caps) to allow every single player to play.

If a captain were to add a bunch of bad players with the purpose to share playing time they would get flamed insanely badly by their team (and lose). TWDT is not practice time, do that in twd/elim/base/wbduel/javduel to prove you deserve to play.

TWL in this sense is better at including everyone because a player can control their play time a lot better. Problem with twl then becomes the disparity in strength of the teams and then these same people will have a new thing to complain about. Put in some work and your situation will improve, just like all things in life...

[RandomNoob]

It wouldn't be too hard to get everyone some playing time, Beam - it'd just take a little bit of effort :O