Nerd sheets here! (DT stats)

[Vehicle]

how is the formula wrong?

Because at its core a dominant basing performance is one in which fewer minutes are played. I don't know how you fix statistics to reflect that but rewarding "minutes played" is rewarding close games.

[Kassius]

Any chance you can unhide the raw data tab(s)?

[Vehicle]

Nipple Nibbler Efhat I may be wrong this is just how I was reading it. I am by no means smart when it comes to this stuff. And I appreciate all the time and effort you've put into it RR.

It just seems to me that basically all the stats except for the per minute ones are reward longer games. But I guess you're right that you do work some stuff in to counteract that.

I wasn't making an attack on your stat sheet I was just asking an honest question / opening up the discussion. After reading your response, I think this is your best solution to the problem I mentioned and it may even be the only solution.

Like I said, I'm dumb when it comes to statistics, so my post wasn't meant as some veiled insult.

[Efhat]

Isn't it kind of weird that the stats are biased to games that are closer? Unless I'm mistaken, minutes played are weighted positively towards your rating, but in basing I would think the least amount of minutes played should be rewarded? Wouldn't you be considered better if you blow out your team instead of have it be 14:30-15:00.

I also think it's more than likely the case that whoever has the most *k/dpg is also going to end up with the most *k/dpm, that's basically what it looks like now after two weeks. I think, at least for basing, the formula is wrong and should reward fewer minutes played rather than closer games and that change would also ideally be reflected in those other four categories.

Maybe I'm just too stoned, but that's my two cents.

how is the formula wrong?
i have more kills and less minutes played (10 or more minutes) than the other 9 spids in the top 10... the kpg/kpm seems on point.
for example, autopilot has 10 more minutes played than me but hes #2 in the kill race at 445 and I’m at 511..
im sure if I played the same amount of time he has in basing the kill gap would be dramatically more spread if we stayed at that same pace.
which I would believe is why I lead the kpg? Unless RR can correct me if I’m wrong?

[Nipple Nibbler]

Vehicle Long reply sorry.

I appreciate any input for the rating I am working on and I am putting the formulas used right in the visible sheets to be transparent. I want to keep it simple, so anyone can look at it and go, "hey that makes sense", even if they don't agree with it. But not so simple it only uses k/d. It certainly needs more thought put into it and nowhere near close for the basing ships. The hardest part with basing is keeping it so it is similar across all 3 ships to attempt to compare.

I divide the rating by time to get an idea of how well the players actually play each minute they play instead of just having someone get 130 kills simply because it was a 30 minute match. I give players with small amounts of time played a 0 rating to avoid someone subbing in and going 15-1 in like 2 minutes having a crazy high rating. As the season progresses I increase the minimum time played amount. I put pretty good weight into Teks to avoid campers sitting in the back stealing the show (like Henry). I put good weight into wins to avoid selfish players playing just for rec (again like Henry).

Obviously no matter how I weigh anything in the ratings it will opinion-based unlike the rest of the stuff in the sheets and was honestly just a way to sort the players. I did reach out to some Warbirds and Javelins for opinions on their ratings, and I am happy with it for them (at least for now).

With time in the equation it doesn't reward short or long games, just how well people consistently play. Per game leaders aren't always going to be (but probably will be most the time) the same as per minute unless you make it per 30 minutes. You might be right about rating players with shorter games higher up, but that wont always be true, sometimes you just play against a really crap team and get an easy win . I will make sure to set some time aside to work on this some more and hopefully by playoffs I will have something I am happy with for all 3 basing ships, any changes I make to the rating will be changed in any other sheets I have done as well, like TWL, so it will be consistent.

Any basers with honest non-trolly opinions on how heavy to weigh the stats used for basing feel free to reach out. Initially when I started nobody seemed to care lol.

[Vehicle]

Isn't it kind of weird that the stats are biased to games that are closer? Unless I'm mistaken, minutes played are weighted positively towards your rating, but in basing I would think the least amount of minutes played should be rewarded? Wouldn't you be considered better if you blow out your team instead of have it be 14:30-15:00.

I also think it's more than likely the case that whoever has the most *k/dpg is also going to end up with the most *k/dpm, that's basically what it looks like now after two weeks. I think, at least for basing, the formula is wrong and should reward fewer minutes played rather than closer games and that change would also ideally be reflected in those other four categories.

Maybe I'm just too stoned, but that's my two cents.

[Nipple Nibbler]

~updated for week 2~

[Nipple Nibbler]

hey nerd stats...add me to KO leader. ty for this

Last time I did this manually, this is automated now and I fubar the formula

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[Tiny]

hey nerd stats...add me to KO leader. ty for this

[Nipple Nibbler]

WillBy There is a few second delay in the timestamps in boxscores. The delay never seems to be the same so for consistency I just use what is in the scoreboxes. This is an old bot bug. In the TWL nerd sheets post I talked about it, I should have put it here too .

[WillBy]

I don't think the time stats on DTB are correct. In particular, how can demonic have 30 minutes for, but only be 1-1? By a quick check, they should have 29:58 time for, as they lost to Haze by 2 seconds. Haze's time against is similarly messed up- 30 minutes, when it should be 29:58. Not any big differences, but this could cascade for future weeks.

[Nipple Nibbler]

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I use the timestamps on the far right side of score boxes for consistency since this is where !subs !switches !changes are timestamped. This might be off by a second here or there due to bot limitations.