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    Grand Theft Accountant.

    that's what motley fool (a financial news website) said the upcoming take-two interactive release should be called, instead of grand theft auto: san andreas.

    why?

    it turns out the reason for the recent press release about their former CEO jeffrey lapin "stepping down" was because he's been given official notice of investigation by the SEC (known as a wells notice). seems that take-two has been practicing "enron-style" accounting practices.

    in a related story, the ny times reported,

    from: new york times april 15, 2004

    "Mr. Lapin's resignation is yet another turn in the revolving door of management at Take-Two, which has had four chief financial officers and three chief executives since 2000. Its chairman and co-founder, Ryan A. Brant, resigned three weeks ago. The Securities and Exchange Commission has been investigating the company for possible accounting irregularities for more than two years.

    "Several Wall Street analysts said they thought that Mr. Lapin was at odds with the company's video game developers, who felt that he had set too aggressive a timetable for getting new games to market."

    in other words, take-two has been run by crooks the last couple years and the SEC is up their ass. in addition to their financial mismanagement, credible financial minds speculate take-two's developers have been burdened by an unrealistic workload, and between upcoming releases San Andreas, Red Dead Revolver, and The Warriors, they have too much shit going on at once. how do these problems affect their games?

    well, this might explain why SA is doubtful (although not officially ruled out) to be previewed at E3, and why Red Dead and Warriors got pushed back. however, according to the times, they've been dealing with a slew of leadership problems since 2000, and during that time, we've seen such hot releases like the Max Payne series, Manhunt, the Midnight Club series, and several other hits.

    so, considering their legacy of producing awesome games while adrift in a stormy sea, i'm sure GTA:SA will live up to the hype, despite these internal problems.
    Last edited by Subjugation; 04-28-2004, 10:23 AM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by jesus=terrorist
    in other words, credible financial minds think take-two's developers feel "under-the-gun" by the upper management crooks to crank out the new games, and they're saying between upcoming releases San Andreas, Red Dead Revolver, and The Warriors, they have too much shit going on at once.

    this would explain why SA is doubtful (although not officially out) to be previewed at E3, and why Red Dead and Warriors got pushed back.
    I dont understand how does that not comply with the generally accepted accounting princpals? I think your title is misleading there are two distinct issues here one is pushing managers too hard (not illegal) and other is reporting thats doesnt comply with the GAAP, SACs, Corporations act and any other law.
    A company can push its directors as hard as they feel fit thats not illegal and not the reason why SEC is investigating.

    You probably already knew this but the way you wrote is misleading, I just wanted to clear it up dont take it as an insult ok?

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    • #3
      Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
      You probably already knew this but the way you wrote is misleading, I just wanted to clear it up dont take it as an insult ok?
      great info j=t.. thanks
      get on youre good foot

      Celicity's page

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      • #4
        j=t leave these forums now please... You newb


        1:delta> personally, i would not go to war for oil
        1:FarScape> in age of empires you would
        1:Freeze> LOL FAR
        ---
        5:waven> freeze
        5:waven> no one talks to ease directly
        5:waven> you state your business with sanji
        5:waven> he will relay it to phizey
        5:waven> phizey will relay it to me
        5:waven> and i will talk to ease
        5:Freeze> LOL
        5:waven> that's how things work around here
        --
        1:renzi> freeze theres difference between being wasted and being a waste

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        • #5
          Originally posted by THE ENFORCER
          I dont understand how does that not comply with the generally accepted accounting princpals? I think your title is misleading there are two distinct issues here one is pushing managers too hard (not illegal) and other is reporting thats doesnt comply with the GAAP, SACs, Corporations act and any other law.
          A company can push its directors as hard as they feel fit thats not illegal and not the reason why SEC is investigating.

          You probably already knew this but the way you wrote is misleading, I just wanted to clear it up dont take it as an insult ok?
          thanks for the heads-up. actually, i just re-read my post, and yea, i agree that i wrote it kinda poorly after the times article quotation. i'll go fix it now...

          basically the point of what i wrote was about take-two's management problems, and how that may or may not impact the much anticipated release of GTA:SA.
          Last edited by Subjugation; 04-28-2004, 10:25 AM.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by IceStorm
            j=t leave these forums now please... You newb
            it's becoming overwhelmingly clear to me that you're obsessed with me, and you want to have passionate gay sex with me.

            sorry to disappoint you, but unlike mattey, i don't like penis.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jesus=terrorist
              thanks for the heads-up. actually, i just re-read my post, and yea, i agree that i wrote it kinda poorly after the times article quotation. i'll go fix it now...

              basically the point of what i wrote was about take-two's management problems, and how that may or may not impact the much anticipated release of GTA:SA.
              No problem, it would be interesting to see how the reviews go its good food for thought showing that even my management accounting studies can benefit some ten year old kid (who plays video games) just shows how management desicisions can affect all.

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              • #8
                who cares if theyre crooks? they make great fucking games.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by IceStorm
                  j=t leave these forums now please... You newb
                  most ironic statement of the year
                  ...

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Awesome
                    most ironic statement of the year
                    What he said isn't ironic at all.
                    Edit: a lot of people misuse that word.
                    TelCat> i am a slut not a hoe
                    TelCat> hoes get paid :(
                    TelCat> i dont

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Awesome
                      most ironic statement of the year
                      This is an odd day too complete newbs post in the same thread..
                      Awesome and J=T ... Good names .. Faggets


                      1:delta> personally, i would not go to war for oil
                      1:FarScape> in age of empires you would
                      1:Freeze> LOL FAR
                      ---
                      5:waven> freeze
                      5:waven> no one talks to ease directly
                      5:waven> you state your business with sanji
                      5:waven> he will relay it to phizey
                      5:waven> phizey will relay it to me
                      5:waven> and i will talk to ease
                      5:Freeze> LOL
                      5:waven> that's how things work around here
                      --
                      1:renzi> freeze theres difference between being wasted and being a waste

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                      • #12
                        Put those cocks away boys; no one here cares whose is longest.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Troll King
                          Put those cocks away boys; no one here cares whose is longest.

                          speak for yourself
                          http://www.trenchwars.org/forums/showthread.php?t=15100 - Gallileo's racist thread

                          "Mustafa sounds like someone that likes to fly planes into buildings." -Galleleo

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                          • #14
                            Wierd..... I thought it was Rockstar games that made all the GTA games....
                            Last edited by Ace; 04-28-2004, 10:46 PM.
                            "Bilbo" SS is a sophisticated chat channel, nothing more.

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                            • #15
                              http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2004/mft04041413.htm

                              http://news.google.com/news?as_q=gra...new+york+times

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