the thought of this makes me sick

[Nethila]

Did I not say I disagree with this war, even though I'm an American? I personally believe that Little Bush is finishing what his father did in the Persian Gulf War. Those innocent iraqi civilians werent beheaded with a knife, with an explosion or bullet, perhaps, in which case they died quickly unlike the beheading.

perphaps those iraqis did die more quickly than that guy who got beheaded. but what about those who lost half of their bodies, or see his whole family blown up right in front him? suddenly, death seems to be the easy way out.

i know alot of americans hate bush, and i can see you are one of them, sort of. but there are still about half of them who believes in bush. =/ i can predict if bush is re-elected, US can expect 4 more years of war.

[Liquid Blue]

perphaps those iraqis did die more quickly than that guy who got beheaded. but what about those who lost half of their bodies, or see his whole family blown up right in front him? suddenly, death seems to be the easy way out.

i know alot of americans hate bush, and i can see you are one of them, sort of. but there are still about half of them who believes in bush. =/ i can predict if bush is re-elected, US can expect 4 more years of war.

It's just a shame how alot of people that don't live in America seem think everyone here totally supports Bush 100%. And it will be a fucking shame if Bush somehow gets re-elected. He'll probably go after Korea next.

EDIT: Damn you wax.

[lunch3]

An American civilian gets his head chopped off for being in Iraq to help rebuild it and people say it isn't right, but America deserved it. That ME finds being photographed the most evilest thing in the world and killing the civilian was justified.

Some Iraqi POWs photographed in compromising situations, and people call fowl and start whining about the mental trauma they endure. This fucking world is just great. I'm sure the American civilian went through a lot more mental trauma when he was captive.

Another fucked up thing that I found; off topic. Remember those Japanese civilians that were held captive in Iraq, one of them helped orphaned Iraqi children as her purpose in Iraq. You know what happened? They were released, and greeted with numerous signs at the Japanese airport that said "You deserved it". You know what the media said, "You were warned not to go to Iraq, now you have disgraced our nation". You know what the Japanese government did? They gave the returning hostages the bill for the airplane tickets.

Hell, it is war, but at least we got rid of Saddam, not running away from our responsibility of reconstruction and trying to lay foundations for a just and stable government. Did we pillage? Did we kill Iraqi's outright? It isn't us who are bombing the Iraqis everyday. War has casualties, we are trying to limit them as much as possible, we had just and rational reasons for going in.

As much as you disagree with the war, it is done. We can't just leave the country and allow people like Sadr to take power, or allow the terrorists to continue bombing Iraqi police AND children. We will not leave until Iraq makes the transition into a stable democracy, to leave otherwise, at this point, is just wrong.

[Liquid Blue]

Although I agree that what happened to the guy that got beheaded and the japanese lady werw wrong, I still disagree with you on some points-

Hell, it is war, but at least we got rid of Saddam, not running away from our responsibility of reconstruction and trying to lay foundations for a just and stable government. Did we pillage? Did we kill Iraqi's outright? It isn't us who are bombing the Iraqis everyday. War has casualties, we are trying to limit them as much as possible, we had just and rational reasons for going in.

We weren't supposed to be there in the first place. Yes, Saddam was evil and it's a good thing that he is out of power there, but the ends don't justify the means. America can't just make up random reasons and go to war with any country or dictator we don't like. With great power comes great responsibility, and when America does something stupid like this Iraq situation ( read, Bush and the Government) it makes us out to be bullies that are just abusing our power.

As much as you disagree with the war, it is done. We can't just leave the country and allow people like Sadr to take power, or allow the terrorists to continue bombing Iraqi police AND children. We will not leave until Iraq makes the transition into a stable democracy, to leave otherwise, at this point, is just wrong.

Again, we were in the wrong for starting this snowball of pain, death and destruction. It's only going to get worse before it gets better. There is no way we can weed out all the terrorists and turn Iraq into a stable democracy, because the citizens there HATE us.

[Liquid Blue]

What do you mean damn me Liquid?

You replied with the same thing I was going to say, only faster. So damn you

[zx.]

If someone came into my country, bombed it from the sky like cowards then bullied the shit out of the civis in my country id do the exact same, perhapds a little slower and without the "allah achbar" bullshit.

I can't blaim em when i think about it, it was for the prisoners, not allah, so... i dunno. just glad it wasnt me.

[K Money]

If someone came into my country, bombed it from the sky like cowards then bullied the shit out of the civis in my country id do the exact same, perhapds a little slower and without the "allah achbar" bullshit.

I can't blaim em when i think about it, it was for the prisoners, not allah, so... i dunno. just glad it wasnt me.

Thats a real shitty attitude to have you piece of shit. Nice showing of compassion for someone who was wrongfully murdered.

I saw that video, and i did go throw up after i saw it. I was the most inhumane thing i've ever seen in my life. We go over there to try to help them, get rid of the terrorists factions within their country, protect them from what Saddam used to do to them, and yet they still won't accept it. I say "fuck Iraq" and let them go down the shithole once again. I don't condone at all the acts that the one group of our soldiers did to the prisoners, that was wrong. But that was only one group of the armed forces, i just watched the new a while ago, and most if not all of the other groups of the armed forces didn't condone or support what happened. So don't bring a big "OH AMERICA DESERVED IT" shitstorm on us. Shit, half the countries you fuckers are from we've bailed out of some conflict or helped drastically, like France for example. Especially Canada, what would yall do, send the mounties out to battle?

Oh and by the way, the bombing was not a "cowardly" act. Which would you rather do first, send an all out invasion of American soldiers which would probably result in a high casualty count, or bomb them first to knock out any enemy bunkers or artillery. Think logically you dumb shit.

[Gemfire]

Most people supported the war because we believed in bush, and the "evidence"(which i now know didnt exhist) that was leaked to the media.

The media can go to hell, without them support wouldnt of been so gung-ho for Bush and the whole Iraq situation.

[Sarien]

If your STUPID FUCKING ASSHOLIC mother fucking ass would like the direct quotes, Sarien, i will also get those for you... stupid fucktard what do they teach the kids in special ed schools now days... jesus christ!

I do so love people like this.

Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (Q. 2:191),
to murder them and treat them harshly (Q. 9:123), slay them (Q. 9:5),
fight with them, (Q. 8: 65 ) even if they are Christians and Jews, humiliate them and impose on them a penalty tax (Q. 9: 29).

Look at the chapters. They not only jump forwards but backwards. We start at 2:191, go up to 9:123, back to 9:5, back again to 8:56, then all the way forward to 9:29, and that's pushed into a single sentence, so let's look these up.

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.

By the way, this Chapter 9, is called The Immunity, and it tells believers exactly who to war on and who to not. In the sense that those who the muslims have not made agreements with are the ones that are seeking to do them and their culture harm. Here is the first line of this chapter:

[9.1] (This is a declaration of) immunity by Allah and His Apostle towards those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement.

[9.123] O you who believe! fight those of the unbelievers who are near to you and let them find in you hardness; and know that Allah is with those who guard (against evil).

[9.4] Except those of the idolaters with whom you made an agreement, then they have not failed you in anything and have not backed up any one against you, so fulfill their agreement to the end of their term; surely Allah loves those who are careful (of their duty).
[9.5] So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them; surely Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.

[8.65] O Prophet! urge the believers to war; if there are twenty patient ones of you they shall overcome two hundred, and if there are a hundred of you they shall overcome a thousand of those who disbelieve, because they are a people who do not understand.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of subjection

I'm 28 years old, and haven't been in school in quite a while, zx. Now You tell Me what it is exactly they teach in special-ed schools... alright?


By the way, just for fun:

Shit, half the countries you fuckers are from we've bailed out of some conflict or helped drastically, like France for example. Especially Canada, what would yall do, send the mounties out to battle?

Without the French, there wouldn't be a United States of America.. who do you think the Statue of Liberty was from, anyway? Statue Gnomes?

[Nethila]

bush's reason of attacking iraq: saddam has weapon of mass destruction
it war is over, if you say so, and yet, where are the so called weapon of mass destruction??

it's like a group of special force break into your house, kills your family, prison you, and claim that you have a nuke in your house. then cant anything for a whole month.

[Gemfire]

I think that Bush might of actually THOUGHT they did have the weapons, and the damnable media didnt help. Fuck them and their damned (forgot the word XD)

edit: after a few minutes of racking my brain, i remembered the word.


Propaganda.

[K Money]

By the way, just for fun:

Without the French, there wouldn't be a United States of America.. who do you think the Statue of Liberty was from, anyway? Statue Gnomes?

We've saved the French's asses so many fuckin times, its fuckin insane. Exmaples you want, I'll give some.

WWI, Germany forces are breaking through French forces on the western front. We come, back them up, and WWI is over in a year after we get involved.

WWII-Nazi Germany Invades France, France is overthrown, we get into the war in like '42, we push the nazi's back.

The French owe us big time, and there is a lot of critism now because they aren't helping us we we need them. 1776 was a long time ago fuckface.

[K Money]

bush's reason of attacking iraq: saddam has weapon of mass destruction
it war is over, if you say so, and yet, where are the so called weapon of mass destruction??

it's like a group of special force break into your house, kills your family, prison you, and claim that you have a nuke in your house. then cant anything for a whole month.

You aren't gonna find these fuckin weapons really easily man. I mean after all, it took us a while to fuckin find Saddam, cause he went hiding into caves and shit. Who knows what he could've done to get hide or get rid of these weapons. You are too overly critical of how things have been run, could you do a better job? i think not.

[Gemfire]

There is cases where scouts have come across a whole squadron of planes buried underneath the sand...same could be for WMD's, but im NOT saying that they really exhist, im saying they COULD.

[K Money]

my point exactly