[TW MAFIA] Western Chronicles

[fiS]

Yeah I agree Rodney. The PMing is really an issue. Restriction of it in future games however only works when everyone sticks to it. I'd be down for that.

[RoDNeY]

GG, I would like to point out something as I've noticed it have a huge impact in the past two games.

It is almost impossible for mafia to win when town is pming each other and speaking during night phase. These are supposed to be perks of only the mafia to aide them in their disadvantage of numbers. It ruins the game in my opinion for people to be pming each other and claiming, honestly cut that shit out it's such a bastard catalyst.

All the mafia games i can remember pming was not allowed and night phases were silent which is what made players get good. Now it's just a bunch of people pming each other and giving their previous actions at night to the public after they know they can't be lynched on the day. Just my 2 cents

also when I was town vig I shot at missa

[ixt]

i think in comparison of the three games, field's setup (just looking by setup, not comparing players) gives most leverage to mafia then willby's (saboteur) then fis's. as we have all witnessed activity is a factor that really influences the course of a game, but tossing that aside we can start considering field's ideas put forth, to give the mafia squad more of a fighting chance.

[fiS]

Sorry we killed you fis. We thought you were the bg

You're lying, pretty sure you're not sorry.
What about Missa's "mafia messge" though? What was the intention or initial thought behind it? Why TP?

[Soilderz]

Man this is a feels good win considering everything

Thanks everyone. Looking forward to the next one; 4th time townie?

[WillBy]

GG everyone. Enjoyed playing with you all.

Sorry we killed you fis. We thought you were the bg

[fiS]

GG everyone. Enjoyed playing with you all.

[field]

GAME OVER, VILLAGERS SURVIVE

WillBy was hanged from the gallows to answer for his crimes. He was Rico Fisher, Medic of the Fisher Family Gang (Mafia Doctor).

With Rico's death, all threats to Trenchville have been eliminated. The game ends with a town victory. Voth (Town 2-Shot Commuter & Marshall) and Soilderz (Vanilla Townie & Bodyguard) survive.

Postgame writeup will come tomorrow. Congratulations to town and thank you all for playing.

A special shoutout to WillBy and Rodney for subbing in and saving the game from woes of inactivity. Having two inactive members made it much more difficult for the mafia, especially with how day 1 gameplay went. It pretty much isolated the mafia team, whereas two active players would have been able to easily blend in. Nevertheless, if it weren't for the awful N3 kill choice of the mafia, the game would have turned out much differently.

SETUP

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[TOWN]
the_paul - Flynn, Sheriff of Trenchville (Town Cop)
WillBy - Dr. Gary, Doctor of Trenchville (Town Doctor)
Undercut - Ms. Annabelle, Bar Maid of Trenchville (Town Roleblocker)
Voth - Felix, Gambler of Trenchville (Town 2-Shot Commuter) - Marshall
Rodney - Bobby Louis, Bounty Hunter of Trenchville (Town Vigilante)
=> If he kills an innocent, he loses his ability.
Soilderz - Patrick O'Toole, Villager of Trenchville (Vanilla Townie) - Bodyguard
Zeebu - Grey Wolf, Mistrusted Villager of Trenchville (Town Miller)
ixt - Clementine, Villager of Trenchville (Vanilla Townie)

[MAFIA]
The Fisher Family Gang
Exalt - Sam Fisher, Patriarch of the Fisher Family Gang (Mafia Godfather) - Mayor
Missa - Eleanor Cobb-Fisher, Mistress of the Fisher Family Gang (Mafia Roleblocker)
WillBy 2.0 - Rico Fisher, Medic of the Fisher Family Gang (Mafia Doctor)
Rodney 2.0 - Jonah Taylor, Member of the Fisher Family Gang (Mafia Goon)

[THIRD PARTY]
fis - Father Cole, the Priest of Trenchville (Vanilla Townie)
=> When the bar maid dies, the Priest turns into a Cannibal (Serial Killer).

[WillBy]

so bodyguard is....soilderz?

Yeah, soilderz must be bg. I would've conceded earlier, but I wanted to watch them kill zeebu.

[WillBy]

Eh, I'm still under the assumption that the game was near-unwinnable for mafia from the beginning based on the setup. I think the only legitimate way Mafia could win in any scenario would be if we won both Mayor/Marshall AND had 4 fully-active members the entire game to pull that off. With 2 scumteam members MIA from the start, that was impossible to do, and so I think there was no way to ever win.

I meant what I said about the Follow the Cop strategy being so broken in normal games, yet this setup doubled down on it with a Doctor and the Bodyguard mechanic. The doctor dying on Day 1 did absolutely nothing to help, and that basically removed all motivation in thinking the game was winnable. Maybe there are players out there who could win it, but I tried to think of ways it was possible once I saw WillBy 1.0's flip, and I couldn't think of one based on Town's power level and scum's level of inactivity/inexperience. I think if WillBy and Rodney had been on the scum team from the very start, the game would have been closer, but there wasn't much to be done by the time they replaced in. I think it went as well as it could have.

Yeah, it was damn hard to pull anything off. Maybe if wed killed paul off earlier, we could've passed rodney off as town. But once rodney died, it was over for sure. I think if I hadn't railed against Exalt d1 as hard as I did, or scum had a couple more capable (active) players, we could've been in a place to make a play. Anyways good game all, this is essentially a W

[ixt]

so bodyguard is....soilderz?

[Exalt]

Eh, I'm still under the assumption that the game was near-unwinnable for mafia from the beginning based on the setup. I think the only legitimate way Mafia could win in any scenario would be if we won both Mayor/Marshall AND had 4 fully-active members the entire game to pull that off. With 2 scumteam members MIA from the start, that was impossible to do, and so I think there was no way to ever win.

I meant what I said about the Follow the Cop strategy being so broken in normal games, yet this setup doubled down on it with a Doctor and the Bodyguard mechanic. The doctor dying on Day 1 did absolutely nothing to help, and that basically removed all motivation in thinking the game was winnable. Maybe there are players out there who could win it, but I tried to think of ways it was possible once I saw WillBy 1.0's flip, and I couldn't think of one based on Town's power level and scum's level of inactivity/inexperience. I think if WillBy and Rodney had been on the scum team from the very start, the game would have been closer, but there wasn't much to be done by the time they replaced in. I think it went as well as it could have.

[WillBy]

Word. Nice work Voth, you lynched a townie. So I've got a couple (drunken) questions. When did paul claim to you? Did he just happen to have a perfect investigation group? Why did you never ask for a role claim?

Zeebu, I strongly considered conceding before you died to let you have this one. But I'm not that type. However, I deem the current setup unwinnable, and therefore concede the game in towns favor.
It is my hope that town acknowledges the conditions of willby 1.0 and rodney 1.0 towards their victory. Without their contributions, the mafia could have pulled something out. Furthermore, I'd like to thank fiS, for killing ixt. Nothing else needs to be said.
I'm probably missing something, but in summary gg

[field]

The Heathen

He pleaded with them. "I'm a friend" he said. They weren't buying it.

All they could see was his color.

Despite serving this village for many years, helping bring the two communities closer, the villagers were adamant and could not be swayed. "He must hang" they said.

Zeebu was hanged from the gallows to answer for his crimes. He was Grey Wolf, Mistrusted Villager of Trenchville (Town Miller).

BEGIN NIGHT 5

[Soilderz]

vote zeebu