TW Mafia: Still Worthy

[Jessup]

It makes much more sense to determine the VT liar right now. We can't risk any power roles.

Voth is a lying scum

Backwards in a real VT

[Jessup]

Can we jus vote Voth off and stop this silliness? T_P investigate exalt tonight and report back. The end.

[the_paul]

Now Field is on the list of people that could be playing me like a fiddle. But, Voth is on my list of names, slim good with it. Today?s lynch needs to be either me, Voth, or a no lynch agreed? I put about a 0% chance anybody reads your post and believes any of it enough to not vote to lynch me, but damnit if the only hole I?m finding in your theory is explaining Jessup?s actions

[the_paul]

I get how unlikely that is and trust me I thought about it a lot.
But this is mafia and anything can happen. All we can do is work with the cards we are dealt.

Voth basically gave it up because he KNEW you were insane and would get guilty result on halp.

As for third scum, it is between Jessup and Rodney. Unless you think I'm bussing two of my scum buddies, when we can just lynch you and win the game... Between Jessup and Rodney, I already said I think Jessup is the scummiest. Anyway you look at it, when we lynch voth and he flips scum, Jessup will point at her votes on voth (which have nothing to do with any reads, just personal vendetta) and say she's townie.

Why would Jessup basically clear Rodney?s name out of left field for basically no reason? And Jessup has constantly voted Voth the entire game, does that mean both of these things were done to separate themselves from the start?

[field]

Last game I was town cop I had 3 straight accurate guilty results. If you are telling me that I?m insane and went 2 for 2 again then I am going to buy a lotto ticket. I never even thought about being insane because the odds of getting 5 straight have to be through the roof. Fuck me if that doesn?t make the most sense.

Fine, I?m still down to roll all the dice on today, but we still have a problem. If Halp is to be believed, we have 2 scum on the fis wagon. Ok fine, your theory makes it Voth and Backwards. Who is the 3rd mafia? Jessup just basically cleared Rodney?s name, since there?s no way they are in league together. If we?re following you, that makes you town, so who the fuck is #3?

I get how unlikely that is and trust me I thought about it a lot.
But this is mafia and anything can happen. All we can do is work with the cards we are dealt.

Voth basically gave it up because he KNEW you were insane and would get guilty result on halp.

As for third scum, it is between Jessup and Rodney. Unless you think I'm bussing two of my scum buddies, when we can just lynch you and win the game... Between Jessup and Rodney, I already said I think Jessup is the scummiest. Anyway you look at it, when we lynch voth and he flips scum, Jessup will point at her votes on voth (which have nothing to do with any reads, just personal vendetta) and say she's townie.

[the_paul]

The only names in both my theories and Field?s are Voth and Backwards. I have no idea what to think about Exalt, but one more night of investigations from me should answer any questions about my sanity. So while Exalt and I have our mafia rivalry, I would remove him from the list in this scenario, and say today should be between Voth, Backwards, and myself. There is the chance that I am right, one of the 2 is godfather and exalt is scum, we pick wrong between Voth/Backwards and we still lose.

I also can?t wrap my head around who #3 would be in this scenario, but this game has given me a huge headache

[the_paul]

Last game I was town cop I had 3 straight accurate guilty results. If you are telling me that I?m insane and went 2 for 2 again then I am going to buy a lotto ticket. I never even thought about being insane because the odds of getting 5 straight have to be through the roof. Fuck me if that doesn?t make the most sense.

Fine, I?m still down to roll all the dice on today, but we still have a problem. If Halp is to be believed, we have 2 scum on the fis wagon. Ok fine, your theory makes it Voth and Backwards. Who is the 3rd mafia? Jessup just basically cleared Rodney?s name, since there?s no way they are in league together. If we?re following you, that makes you town, so who the fuck is #3?

[Jessup]

Stop that foolishness T_P

[field]

You guys have gotten all of this backwards.

Paul and Exalt are both town. Their claims are both true.
Voth and backwards are scum.

Because Paul is an Insane Cop, and that's why a cop's existence is more likely.
He investigated voth N1 and backwards N2. Got innocent on both. Since he is insane, his results are actually guilty on both. Below I will post my thoughts on why I think this theory of mine makes sense.

I should first reiterate that I believe halp's roleclaim and think this phase the vote should be between: voth, Exalt, backwards, the_paul.

Voth - Believes tp is scum, supports NL but wants to lynch tp. He accuses tp of begging for a NL, and in the same post he claims his support for a NL. ????? Voth then slips up by revealing his preconceived knowledge about the setup, the_paul's sanity, and the_paul's likely future result on halp. He attacks paul saying that tp wants another night to investigate halp and claim a guilty result on him the next phase. You can find it in the post below:

I am pretty sure the only reason that Paul has not rolled over yet is because he wants another night phase so he can bullshit a claim that Halp is scum, his investigation said so.

I think now Jessup is the last scum along with Paul and Backwards. Rodney came up with a pro town idea for the two trains to be the two assumed scum.

By the way Jessup, you are literally horrible at this game even with Paul coaching you.

His scumlist: Jessup/the_paul/backwards. He attacks paul again saying latter is dancing around Exalt's points, and then brings up a point I made about tp being a groupie to reinforce his arguments. Scum LOVE to quote townie players to reinforce their own points.

Backwards - The first post backwards makes on D3 is to bait out town PRs. He follows it by more n1 flavor text and asking dumb questions about something he just read.

Night kill analysis is very important in mafia, but it should be done privately and on a notepad. If you find something, you share it in the thread. Only scum or newbies question out in the open. And I think you are doing this to bait out town PRs, because you are scum. A townie should NEVER ask about town PR actions.

Backwards then writes a whole lotta bullshit. This isn't fucking twitter, dude.

His only game-relevant posts are a roleclaim by him:
-Black Widow - Vanilla Townie (I call bullshit)
-Vote on Voth and call for a tie

I am pretty sure he is scum because he is not contributing and keeps giving excuses left and right. I understand real life, but if you have real life then worry about real life and write when you can contribute. You're actively wanting to appear like you're contributing without actually contributing anything. Regardless, when we lynch voth and prove he's scum, we will know that you are scum too.

Having said the above, my vote will remain on voth because it makes the most sense (see his slip up):
vote: voth

A few other thoughts about rest of the players:
Exalt - I think Exalt is town. All his posts actively contribute to pushing the game forward, and he is pursuing a town victory. However, while his attack on tp is from a town-mindset, I think it is misguided. Voth slipped up and we should punish him for it. That and the way the fis train was formed to save his ass.

Rodney - playing like a townie all game. On D3 he makes two key townie movements:
-Questions Jessup about her lack of opinion on tp and backwards, and how her playstyle changed.
-He also questions backwards on his lack of opinion on tp/Exalt's conflicting claims, which is another reason backwards is scum. Backwards is voting for a scum, so when voth is lynched and flips scum backwards can later point to his vote and claim it makes him townie.

I agree with his scumlist of Jessup/backwards but I think he's also misguided in voting tp. Consider the possibility that tp is insane cop for a second, and think about voth's slip up.

Jessup - You've been playing scummy all game. I gave you benefit of the doubt, but now I think your role was purposefully put into the game as mafia mirror in order to confuse townies and reveal the cop's name so early in the game. And I think you're very mad voth took advantage and attacked you in order to make himself appear townie. Not to mention that your scum lists are all very likely townie players. I mean, you have halp on there. And Exalt. What? I think you are the 3rd mafia.

We need to lynch voth today.

[the_paul]

By the way it hasn?t escaped my attention that any townie who legitimately believes this Exalt claim over mine basically is telling me you think I?m a fucking moron. I fully intend on rubbing that in your face after the game, win or lose.

[Jessup]

We have a town cop , any claim countering it is BS

[the_paul]

The way I see it you came out with a cop claim to bus a townie, said townie came out immediately with a claim and actions to prove his claim before you could convince anyone of your fake claim

your role and actions are too conveniently tied up in a bus drivers actions to hide any real chance someone refutes them

You legitimately find this more likely that the WATCHER CLAIM IN A GAME WITH A TRACKER AND A SENSOR, that has provided literally nothing, is more likely than me being a cop? What possible motive would I have to come out and claim despite the fact that I have received no pressure whatsoever even though my name was leaked night 1? If you guys keep saying I?m leading the mafia, why the fuck would I jump into the spotlight and take a bullet for them when I could just hide and try to pull strings?

You guys are going to reread this after the game and absolutely kick yourselves in the fucking ass, because I cannot tie the bow on this game any neater for you than I already have.

Here are the options. There are 8 people left. We?re operating under the assumption there?s 5 town 3 mafia. Mislynch today makes it 4-3, need to pray for a night save to have a chance. I?m going to investigate either Exalt or Field tonight to get my guaranteed guilty result and end this naive debate. I don?t know how on earth you guys have bought Exalt?s claim (hats off Exalt, honestly), but you?re not going to believe my results tomorrow anyway.

Basically, the only chance we win is you lynch me today, see I?m telling the truth, pray somehow the night kill fails, and work through my list starting with either Exalt or Field. It?s a win win for me, either town wins because of this, or the game ends tonight and you townies realize how fucking stupid you are for getting duped on a claim like this.

Vote the_paul

Dear God I hope you?re a protective role Rodney, it?s the only chance you?re going to have to undo this fuckup.

[the_paul]

Exalt presented an entirely pro-town NL theory that made it virtually impossible for scum to win. He was right. Do not worry, I analyzed it with my scum radar machine.

You saw it, and had no other choice but to BS roleclaim. It is pretty simple, and I feel bad for you because you led the scum team well before that and Exalt just smashed you with his classic style of logical analysis. Either he is town and he is MVP, or he is scum and I will suck his dick because I have been 100% fooled all game.

He presented a theory and didn?t have to roleclaim anything. He hasn?t put any results out that made any kind of a difference. He came out 2 days later and suddenly he knew who ixt had targeted day 1, and he also threw a nonsense claim in about Rodney because it was a safe bet that nobody would be able to refute it. Well, they have, and it fits right in with my results almost perfectly, because the fact that Rodney is not mafia is absolutely mind boggling to me.

[RoDNeY]

I'm going to bed my brain hurts

[RoDNeY]

Show me where he countered me. He waited until after I claimed cop to come up with watcher. I didn?t have to claim at all, nobody ever even questioned me. He only claimed after halp said his piece and I claimed, because he knew what that meant.

Quote it an show me where he countered me, because nobody has been able to

The way I see it you came out with a cop claim to bus a townie, said townie came out immediately with a claim and actions to prove his claim before you could convince anyone of your fake claim

your role and actions are too conveniently tied up in a bus drivers actions to hide any real chance someone refutes them