TW Mafia: Still Worthy

[Exalt]

Because my name directly corresponds to my role in this game, and the character's role in the movies. If I reveal my name, I'm role claiming.

Ok, to be fair, my name and role aren't exactly an easily assumed fit at first glance in ways that something like Batman Vigilante would be. The combo sort of makes sense if you squint real hard, but it isnt some white and black thing imo. It does make some sense, so its not completely out of the character, but it's not a total giveaway if I did give it out (which I won't do regardless).

That said, WillBy may have given scum fake claims, in which case scum Jessup would be trying desperately for people to know their fake name for town cred. If there really are fake claims, the only people a mass name claim would help even a little bit are scum.

Now, the question is whether Jessup is scum and knows what I just mentioned to be the case, or she's just that dumb. Its impossible to tell. I can usually read ixt a little bit, but Jessup does anti-town things regardless of alignment, so I have no idea with her.

I do know that if Jessup is town, there's a good chance she will never be NKed by scum and will stick around until the end. That didn't work so well for town last game.

[Jessup]

No gripe/halp, I did it to deter accusations later on if they come my way which my role could possibly cause. I'm definitely trying hard now to show how I'm eager for town to gain REAL information that can benefit us. I will explain this all at some stage. It is a pickle though I find myself in with this role.

[Voth]

No gripe/halp, I did it to deter accusations later on if they come my way which my role could possibly cause. I'm definitely trying hard now to show how I'm eager for town to gain REAL information that can benefit us. I will explain this all at some stage. It is a pickle though I find myself in with this role.

It is day one. What REAL information is there to go off
of? None. Absolutely none.

I say that we take out ixt or Jessup. I am in either way. Exalt makes a fair point that if Jessup is town, she will not be nightkilled, and we will be dealing with her dumbass shit all game. I have a better feeling about ixt being scum than I do Jessup at the moment.

[Jessup]

I seriously doubt willby would give scum fake claims when everyone already is a superhero, both scum and town.

[Jessup]

LOL you guys act so superior in your mafia skills. It is hilarious when I've seen you all do bozo moves in recent and old games alike. I'm as good as any of you.

[kthx]

whatever you say xoggup, make a list.

[field]

Name/role claiming so early and for no reason is an anti-town play. It just provides scum with more information than they start with, and they can use that information to concoct better fake claims.

It seems to me that players who resort to this do it because of the low-information nature of day 1. That's just how it is, we are not expected to figure out who the scum are on day 1. But we are expected to learn about what each player is trying to do and go from there.

Having said that, I do not think ixt is scum. Claiming is just something he does, and using it to form a read on him is quite scummy. But since kthx hasn't played with ixt yet, I'll give him a pass.

Jessup, on the other hand, should have dropped it by now after others explained that we stand to gain no information by name claiming. Only scum do. But I feel like ixt/Jessup are townies being railroaded by scum under the pretense that they're the easiest d1 vote.

[kthx]

Ok, to be fair, my name and role aren't exactly an easily assumed fit at first glance in ways that something like Batman Vigilante would be. The combo sort of makes sense if you squint real hard,

Someone message panda to help us figure out Exalts role

[sdrawkcab]

...But I feel like ixt/Jessup are townies being railroaded by scum under the pretense that they're the easiest d1 vote.

I agree with that, though I don?t know ixt ... Jessup just being jessup

[kthx]

I agree with that, though I don?t know ixt ... Jessup just being jessup

If that is the case and you keep defending him, then why did he ask for everyone to roleclaim after you did while not doing it himself? He posted multiple times about the benefits of it while not partaking in his own advice. Really activates the almonds.

[kthx]

Other than field, who is obvious scum. IXT, Jessup, The_Paul, Field all giving me scum vibes. Jessup even set us up with a plea to trust him when we learn more about his role, seems like pre-emptive scum defense to me..

Quoting this for ease in future days, if he turns out scum we have a small list of people to scrutinize.

[kthx]

Also, if Jessup turns out innocent that would be the next target + he most likely has 1/2 of his fellow scum on the list.

[RoDNeY]

LOL you guys act so superior in your mafia skills. It is hilarious when I've seen you all do bozo moves in recent and old games alike. I'm as good as any of you.

You literally thought exalt claming Captain Planet 4x shot bodyguard was a real roleclaim...
We aren't acting superior in our mafia skills, you acting inferior is what gives you that perspective.

[RoDNeY]

I seriously doubt willby would give scum fake claims when everyone already is a superhero, both scum and town.

How can you be so sure? Do you have some kind of knowledge of multiple players names?

[Exalt]

No gripe/halp, I did it to deter accusations later on if they come my way which my role could possibly cause. I'm definitely trying hard now to show how I'm eager for town to gain REAL information that can benefit us. I will explain this all at some stage. It is a pickle though I find myself in with this role.

Lets play a game. I will give out some hypotheticals, and then I will ask a few rhetorical questions.

Hypothetical: Lets pretend youre a town cop. Lets also pretend there are no modifiers and every result you get is legit, even though you dont know that. You see your role and you think 'wow, I'm super important for town!' and it gets you excited, so you tell town to trust and follow you, because you're this super important role that could possibly make or break the game. Town thinks you're full of shit, but you keep on saying how important you are, hoping the town believes you. You go so far as to constantly bring it up, doing absolutely nothing else, hoping that town will magically listen to you through force of will, while sun will magically not notice any of it.

Rhetorical questions: What information could you possibly have on Day 1 that's worth alerting scum to your role? What makes you think you'll ever get a result, instead of being roleblocked in perpetuity? What makes you think its a good idea to be telling scum how important your role is on Day 1 before youve ever even had a chance to use it? Why would you ever do any of this on Day 1?

Hypothetical: Lets pretend it's Day 1, and you are scum. You want to find town PRs while tricking them into believing you're a cop or some other important town role. You claim you're this super important role on Day 1, even though that's literally the worst thing a town cop could do at this stage in the game. You hope town follows you while also being literal dumbasses and giving you their role info with a mass claim. Your constant begging for town to follow you also has the intention to excuse you from scum hunting at all and hopefully allows you to be completely useless for as long as possible as you constantly try to get town to do stupid shit so town can lose faster.

Rhetorical questions: Does either hypothetical sound good for town? Why would you ever do anything listed in the hypothetical if you were town?