Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[WillBy]

Vote Tally:
Party Falcon-4 (Vehicle, the_paul, voth, exalt)
edify-4 (ixt, beast, kassius, kthx)
voth-2 (edify, party falcon)
beast-1 (hookecho)

no vote: halp

Phase change in about 4 hours.

[Edify]

the_paul I am relatively pleased you chose not to jump on my wagon. The rest of you, eh.

Apparently I haven't contributed much, which is sad. When I get the lynch and it reads vanilla townie, the inevitable "Eh he was worthless" justification will come along. It's statistically unlikely for everyone voting on me to be town. Either that or town team was screwed from the beginning.

Voth Of course, only the best compliments for you my sweet.

[Edify]

Sorry, for clarity : Double lynch Edify & PF.

Can see anyone not trying to get this done as obvious Mafia

You've been after inactives and out for blood all game, though no one else seemed to want to join you on seriously lynching inactives. You switching your vote to me has only made me more certain you're scum. However, my vote will stay where it's at, even if it's insignificant.

I have no idea if PF is town or not, but if he is this'll be a great writeup for Willby. I could probably save myself by switching to PF but I think it's probably better at this point to let Harvey die and town can sort themselves out with this ridiculous game.

[Kassius]

You've been after inactives and out for blood all game, though no one else seemed to want to join you on seriously lynching inactives. You switching your vote to me has only made me more certain you're scum. However, my vote will stay where it's at, even if it's insignificant.

I have no idea if PF is town or not, but if he is this'll be a great writeup for Willby. I could probably save myself by switching to PF but I think it's probably better at this point to let Harvey die and town can sort themselves out with this ridiculous game.

I guess the response to being completely found out, at the bottom of a large hole is just to keep on digging, maybe you'll get through to China or somewhere.

1. "You've been after inactives and out for blood all game"

Inactives? I've voted for :

Halp - One of the first people to post on the game
Beast - The most active person in the game
Jessup - Active until nightkilled as a third party
Edify - ...

Please, do quote me where I've gone after inactives.

2. "though no one else seemed to want to join you on seriously lynching inactives."

Halp - who I seem to be the only person who is suspicious of him, still has questions to answer.
Beast - well everyone has voted Beast at some point so far.
Jessup - I correctly voted for.
Edify - ..

3. "You switching your vote to me has only made me more certain you're scum."

When you're the most obvious scum player here apart from PartyFalcon? How about the previous time you decided to call me suspicious for jumping on Halp after the backwards train left the station. Despite the fact it was me having lead the original vote on Halp, then when he was in the lead I switched my vote away. I pose the same question to you that Jessup couldn't answer, if I was scum/Mafia, why would I do this? I'd love to hear it from you. To not vote for either of the two most obvious Mafia candidates is the indication that you would be anti-town.

4. "However, my vote will stay where it's at, even if it's insignificant."

Wow, so you won't even vote PartyFalcon to try to save yourself, even when a large amount of us think they are Mafia. Which means you are what exactly, Pro-Town? Nope.

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Conclusion, and summary to those who haven't voted or who are thinking of changing their votes, we have a chance here to take out 2 Mafias/scum in one go right now, just make sure PF/Edify finish up joint top. So if you haven't voted, either abstain, or vote something completely inconsequential.

Edify/PF et al don't have a third candidate other than maybe Beast who could conceivably take last minute votes. Edify's second attempt at shining a light on me is desperate to try and get another townie to bite, to give them the numbers to jump on me to try and make me the lynching target.

Any vote changing from Hookecho, or votes for either of PartyFalcon or Edify from Halp are going to look extremely suspicious without serious justification.

[Hookecho]

I guess the response to being completely found out, at the bottom of a large hole is just to keep on digging, maybe you'll get through to China or somewhere.

1. "You've been after inactives and out for blood all game"

Inactives? I've voted for :

Halp - One of the first people to post on the game
Beast - The most active person in the game
Jessup - Active until nightkilled as a third party
Edify - ...

Please, do quote me where I've gone after inactives.

2. "though no one else seemed to want to join you on seriously lynching inactives."

Halp - who I seem to be the only person who is suspicious of him, still has questions to answer.
Beast - well everyone has voted Beast at some point so far.
Jessup - I correctly voted for.
Edify - ..

3. "You switching your vote to me has only made me more certain you're scum."

When you're the most obvious scum player here apart from PartyFalcon? How about the previous time you decided to call me suspicious for jumping on Halp after the backwards train left the station. Despite the fact it was me having lead the original vote on Halp, then when he was in the lead I switched my vote away. I pose the same question to you that Jessup couldn't answer, if I was scum/Mafia, why would I do this? I'd love to hear it from you. To not vote for either of the two most obvious Mafia candidates is the indication that you would be anti-town.

4. "However, my vote will stay where it's at, even if it's insignificant."

Wow, so you won't even vote PartyFalcon to try to save yourself, even when a large amount of us think they are Mafia. Which means you are what exactly, Pro-Town? Nope.

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Conclusion, and summary to those who haven't voted or who are thinking of changing their votes, we have a chance here to take out 2 Mafias/scum in one go right now, just make sure PF/Edify finish up joint top. So if you haven't voted, either abstain, or vote something completely inconsequential.

Edify/PF et al don't have a third candidate other than maybe Beast who could conceivably take last minute votes. Edify's second attempt at shining a light on me is desperate to try and get another townie to bite, to give them the numbers to jump on me to try and make me the lynching target.

Any vote changing from Hookecho, or votes for either of PartyFalcon or Edify from Halp are going to look extremely suspicious without serious justification.

Seems to me like they're picking on you for being new to the group -- a couple people tried this earlier.

I still think Beast is scum, and I plan on leaving my vote as it is. If we can take out two scum today, I'm all about it.

I wasn't really sure about edify, but PartyFalcon's long posts and the roleblocker being killed off first kind of make me wonder if he was an afk scum on night one.

[kthx]

I'm strongly reconsidering my vote on Edify at this point since he seems sincere and theres some fucked up logic being used to jump on the bandwagon all the sudden. I get the feeling that some people seem a bit too excited about it. Anyone else getting that vibe? Willby how much time before the phase change?

[ixt]

Then what do u suggest, lynch falcon and invest edify? Or what

[Kassius]

I'm strongly reconsidering my vote on Edify at this point since he seems sincere and theres some fucked up logic being used to jump on the bandwagon all the sudden. I get the feeling that some people seem a bit too excited about it. Anyone else getting that vibe? Willby how much time before the phase change?

Really, he seems sincere? Have you read what he's wrote about me? :lol:

[ixt]

Personally not entirely convinced based off last night’s comments but still open to listen to last part of this phase if anything were to be changed

[kthx]

Then what do u suggest, lynch falcon and invest edify? Or what

Yeah pretty much, Exalt is the only one I fully trust even if I have a strong feeling that a few others are town. But I am fine with doing a double lynch also. With the third party gone and one mafia out already it might be the better play anyways. It will also give us a better chance to look at the votes and when they were made if one or the other pops mafia. Guess I will stick with my vote for now and we can figure it out in the aftermath.

[Kassius]

Yeah pretty much, Exalt is the only one I fully trust even if I have a strong feeling that a few others are town. But I am fine with doing a double lynch also. With the third party gone and one mafia out already it might be the better play anyways. It will also give us a better chance to look at the votes and when they were made if one or the other pops mafia. Guess I will stick with my vote for now and we can figure it out in the aftermath.

Getting the double lynch, although an ideal outcome, is going to be next to impossible though. If they are both Mafia, one will save themselves or the other by changing their vote just before phasechange. Either way, they'll be exposted and we'll get 2 of them, just one today and one tomorrow. Can't see how Mafia can get out of this without trying to direct to a 3rd target, and other than Beast, no-one seems viable.

So their play will be either a change in votes amongst the inconsequentials, to try and start some momentum, to get the votes off the top two, to save both of themselves. Or to cut their losses, and save one of each other. As PF doesn't seem to active right now, I can see Edify voting PF last minute.

[the_paul]

I'm not convinced that they're both mafia. I'm definitely getting scum vibes from them both to some degree, but just basic statistics tells me that if we manage to lynch 3 mafia members by the end of day 2, we should all just retire as the greatest collection of townie intuition in TW mafia history.

[Vehicle]

I'm not convinced that they're both mafia. I'm definitely getting scum vibes from them both to some degree, but just basic statistics tells me that if we manage to lynch 3 mafia members by the end of day 2, we should all just retire as the greatest collection of townie intuition in TW mafia history.

This.

I'm not sure I like the idea of a double lynch but I still think PartyFalcon is sketchier than Edify and the only thing I can do is unvote to send Edify alone to the gallows.

[WillBy]

Willby how much time before the phase change?

About 1 hour until phase change. As we currently sit at a tie, I'll remind you all that there is a double lynch rule. Since neither of the players at risk of death are voting for each other, I may consider extending phase in case one of them, you know, decides they want to live. Or if anyone else hops around!

[Edify]

I guess the response to being completely found out, at the bottom of a large hole is just to keep on digging, maybe you'll get through to China or somewhere.

1. "You've been after inactives and out for blood all game"
I'm not referring to who you've voted for but the words you've said.
Inactives? I've voted for :

Halp - One of the first people to post on the game
Beast - The most active person in the game
Jessup - Active until nightkilled as a third party
Edify - ...

Please, do quote me where I've gone after inactives.

2. "though no one else seemed to want to join you on seriously lynching inactives."
Referring to no one voting on inactives.
Halp - who I seem to be the only person who is suspicious of him, still has questions to answer.
Beast - well everyone has voted Beast at some point so far.
Jessup - I correctly voted for.
Edify - ..

3. "You switching your vote to me has only made me more certain you're scum."
Obvious scum player? Laughable. Truly led by the nose. Voth's words coming from your mouth. If anything I've been an obvious town player. Some have called me too town. I don't know what to say to that. I enjoy the game and try hard at it.
When you're the most obvious scum player here apart from PartyFalcon? How about the previous time you decided to call me suspicious for jumping on Halp after the backwards train left the station. Despite the fact it was me having lead the original vote on Halp, then when he was in the lead I switched my vote away. I pose the same question to you that Jessup couldn't answer, if I was scum/Mafia, why would I do this? I'd love to hear it from you. To not vote for either of the two most obvious Mafia candidates is the indication that you would be anti-town.

4. "However, my vote will stay where it's at, even if it's insignificant."
Wouldn't that be a stupid move? Switching my vote to PF who I see no clear evidence to damn. I'm pretty sure if I switch my vote more people will just jump on me. It's easier to go down and let this amazing skilled town team deal with the results of a dead townie. I've already been run thru the mud as a useless townie. Bloody pride of you lot.
Wow, so you won't even vote PartyFalcon to try to save yourself, even when a large amount of us think they are Mafia. Which means you are what exactly, Pro-Town? Nope.

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Conclusion, and summary to those who haven't voted or who are thinking of changing their votes, we have a chance here to take out 2 Mafias/scum in one go right now, just make sure PF/Edify finish up joint top. So if you haven't voted, either abstain, or vote something completely inconsequential.

Edify/PF et al don't have a third candidate other than maybe Beast who could conceivably take last minute votes. Edify's second attempt at shining a light on me is desperate to try and get another townie to bite, to give them the numbers to jump on me to try and make me the lynching target.
I recognize it's a lost cause to get at you, I am just making my opinions known before I Dido on this ship.

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