Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[Halp]

Gonna make this simple for the newbs that might not understand.

According to Vehicle who watched exalt N1 and nobody visited, N2 the_paul and IXT visited.

This means that either IXT or the_paul killed Exalt on N2, but if the_paul had performed the kill, then why isnt Ixt the bodyguard dead?

Aside from game mechanics suggesting Ixts guilt, there’s also the fact that he claimed in the beginning of the game under no pressure to claim, and “forgot” to submit an action on N1. Remember that?

So for me it’s pretty obvious, unless paul is a strongman, which isn’t likely due to the rest of the setup, it’s ixt.

vote ixt

[Kassius]

I decided to go back to the D1 voting patterns with today's knowledge.

2 successful Mafia actions on night 1 if poisoning has happened.

1. Ixt - I believe is a Town Bodyguard, so it wasn't him.
2. Kassius - Wasn't me, cause I claimed Townie Roleblocker. I blocked Halp (Unknown) on N1 and Ixt on N3.
3. Halp - Was roleblocked by Kassius (Town), so not him.
4. The_paul - Claims to be a Townie inventor, was third on the Backwards (Mafia) vote train after Exalt (Town) and Voth. Paul changed his vote from Beast (Town) to do this, and from Voth to vote Beast (Town). So the pattern is Unknown > Town > Mafia. I don't believe the_paul to be suspicious to tip the balance from Beast to Backwards, I can't see the benefit.
5. Voth - On day 1, voted Jessup (3rd Party) initially, then ixt (Town), then Beast (Town), then Backwards (Mafia). Pattern is 3rd Party > Town > Town > Mafia. Voth was the second on Backwards (Mafia) train.
6. Hookecho - On day 1, voted Exalt initially, then went completely AFK until Willby called him out for lack of activity, #131, then without being @'d, replies 14 minutes later. Lurking confirmed. Unvotes Exalt to then abstain, please note BEFORE the Backwards train gets started, and then goes AFK again. Pattern is Town > Abstain
7. Edify - On day 1, votes ixt (Town) initially, then Beast (Town). Pattern is Town > Town. Kept his vote on beast even during the Backwards train, post 224 of his was only 2 minutes after Willby's VC and 3 minutes after the third vote when in on Backwards (Mafia) when Backwards (Mafia) took the lead at the death. "Getting close to cutoff time here... I'm going to leave mine on Beast. To me it would be scummy to suddenly switch to sdrawcaB as Beast is the one I'm most concerned about." Exactly, but why even say that ? Because you want to show everyone that you're just too smart to get caught out by that obvious blunder? Yet in posting this, you're basically doing it anyway?
8. Kthx - Wasn't in the game.

So using present day knowledge to look at day 1 again...

The suspects are :

Edify - Town to Town vote, overtly declared he wouldn't be tricked into appearing too scummy by switching his vote. Why even post this?
Hookecho - Too scared to post, lurking a lot, completley flies under the radar, nothing he's saying is getting picked up by anyone.

So after some thought, I have to unvote the_paul.

Vote Hookecho

Let's see how he reacts to being under the microscope.

[Edify]

That being said, I am Johnie the Chef, town 1-shot inventor. I didn't believe Exalt's Shadow claim immediately, so I didn't do anything night 1. I targeted him night 2, but was obviously unsuccessful. I still have my action left.

So because you didn't believe Exalt's claim, you sought to kill him? Inventor is either a power that can give out x-shot inventions to other players, or can use them himself. You left one important thing out in your claim: what invention were you trying to use on Exalt/give to Exalt?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Inventor

In my mind, this claim put's ixt's roleclaim at risk. I'm surprised that ixt isn't after the_paul more than he is after kthx. In fitting with ixt's claim of bodyguard, someone else seen entering Exalt's cabin on N2 HAS to be suspicious as ever, and yet ixt is off chasing halp, kthx and putting the_paul last. What gives?

Ixt, I have believed you in the past, but this is real strange.

Next phase change noon on Sunday.

[kthx]

Maybe the mafia is the friends we made on the way.

[Kassius]

Very wary of halp and Edify trying to move suspicion onto Ixt, with only a vote from kthx to back it up without plumping in themselves.

[Kassius]

Sorry my bad - halp did put his money where his mouth is. So following Kthx's vote he adds one, then Edify tries to drum up further support without voting, unless I'm mistaken (again)?

[Edify]

Exactly, but why even say that ? Because you want to show everyone that you're just too smart to get caught out by that obvious blunder? Yet in posting this, you're basically doing it anyway?
8. Kthx - Wasn't in the game.

Why say that? Because I was forecasting the next accusation. In this game, everything you post is under scrutiny. Rather than have to defend myself in a later post I chose to defend myself in the post I was writing at the time. It's the same basic reason Vehicle wrote "and self preservation" in small text under one of his posts (760).

[Edify]

Sorry my bad - halp did put his money where his mouth is. So following Kthx's vote he adds one, then Edify tries to drum up further support without voting, unless I'm mistaken (again)?

Do you even read the posts?

I'm saying voting the_paul is the only and final way to clear ixt's name. If we lynch the_paul and he flips town, then it's obviously ixt is not who he was cracked up to be.

To be blunt, I put very little credibility in you and ixt's little "hey I tried to protect so and so" "hey i blocked you teehee" "yay friends forever".
So to say ixt has been proven twice is too much for me. I think he's been proven once total, that's why my vote is not on him. My preference is that t_p goes first.

[kthx]

Do you even read the posts?

I'm saying voting the_paul is the only and final way to clear ixt's name. If we lynch the_paul and he flips town, then it's obviously ixt is not who he was cracked up to be.

To be blunt, I put very little credibility in you and ixt's little "hey I tried to protect so and so" "hey i blocked you teehee" "yay friends forever".
So to say ixt has been proven twice is too much for me. I think he's been proven once total, that's why my vote is not on him. My preference is that t_p goes first.

Why are you so fixated on getting TP before IXT when they both prove the same thing?

[Kassius]

Do you even read the posts?

I'm saying voting the_paul is the only and final way to clear ixt's name. If we lynch the_paul and he flips town, then it's obviously ixt is not who he was cracked up to be.

To be blunt, I put very little credibility in you and ixt's little "hey I tried to protect so and so" "hey i blocked you teehee" "yay friends forever".
So to say ixt has been proven twice is too much for me. I think he's been proven once total, that's why my vote is not on him. My preference is that t_p goes first.

the_paul's actions on day 1 don't lead me to believe he's the most suspicious person here, he's definitely near the top of the tree, but the answer to the question I've wanted answered all game long is still not here - who killed Jessup. I looked at voting patterns on Day 1 and that's what I'm rolling with.

Do you not think Hookecho's actions are suspicious?

[kthx]

I personally believe that TP is an inventor over a Strongman thst overpowered IXTs bodyguarding of exalt lol. Not to mention TP did vote out backwards which even if it was a pop fly would be the thing for the godfather to do not a regular mafia role. Exalt even said get IXT if he died. Everything lines up to vote IXT.

[kthx]

Pretty safe to say that if ixt pops mafia, that tomorrow we can safely lynch Edify who keeps pushing voting anyone out other than ixt fairly openly here.

[Kassius]

I personally believe that TP is an inventor over a Strongman thst overpowered IXTs bodyguarding of exalt lol. Not to mention TP did vote out backwards which even if it was a pop fly would be the thing for the godfather to do not a regular mafia role. Exalt even said get IXT if he died. Everything lines up to vote IXT.

So, if Ixt is the guilty party here, who called Vehicle N3? Because I blocked Ixt, it wasn't him. Are we saying Edify+Ixt, with Edify killing vehicle?

[Halp]

Problem: Kassius blocked ixt and there was still a death last night.

Solution: Lynch kthx?

[ixt]

Don’t get me wrong I did not say I believe anything Paul said, I said he has the RIGHT to supposedly role claim as everyone has the right to defend themselves. And I’m not going to respond to the bullshittery form of accusation that mafia is trying to pose. If any of the outside townies can’t recognize what stance I’m coming from, I really don’t know what to tell you.

Kassius going for hook is a risky guess because unlike some other people here he has a chance of actually being a silent town. Because of the mislynches I don’t think it’s worth the risk at least this phase rather than those who are supposedly claiming a no-role VT and trying to push a town power