Mafia 2020 #3: 14 Stories Above the Sea

[the_paul]

What did Kthx roleclaim again?

Commuter. Forgot his name he claimed, but he's basically claiming Don Corleone the Helmsman (Commuter)

[the_paul]

Thinking out loud though, there's been a kill every night, so how would a Poison kill take place without there being a night where the poisoner did his thing, but no one died that night?

Only way I can think of is that one of the scum members had an x-shot ninja poison as their own ability, and the gf could also send someone else to perform a regular kill. So, because that was clear as mad: Scum X is a goon with 1-shot ninja poison modifier, targets Exalt night 1. Godfather sends Backwards to perform their standard night kill on Jessup (That was the n1 kill right?). Scum x has used 1-shot ability and is just a goon or whatever his role is, and the rest of the kills progress as normal.

Does this make sense?

[Voth]

What did Kthx roleclaim again?

[Voth]

Thinking out loud though, there's been a kill every night, so how would a Poison kill take place without there being a night where the poisoner did his thing, but no one died that night?

[Voth]

To be clear, if the death is instant, the bodyguard should stop the kill, regardless of flavor, and there’s nothing in the role description to suggest bodyguards can’t stop a poison kill.

Look up poisoner on mafia scum. Fuck it, I'll get the link for you.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Poisoner

From the last sentence of first paragraph:
The advantage to this is that a kill via poison cannot be stopped, except by the fairly rare Poison Doctor.

[WillBy]

Kthx-4
the_paul-2

Phase change: 4-5 hours

[Halp]

whats your view on the_paul?

this was actually meant for the Paul, you can ignore lol

[Halp]

Reasons why I think Voth is town: voting patterns besides agitating people @ me 50% of the game have been mafia D1 and did not take part in the bandwagon votes on 2-3 townies so far I think. As a mafia it'd be much easier to just join these huge bandwagons that were going for decisive townie deaths.

Personally I think t_p is the surest mafia lynch barring any game-breaking roles being present. However, I'm trying to align votes with Voth since I believe he is town. Voth

Ahhh what to do. I'll check back later. We've still got some time.

Actually if we still had 3 mafia at this point the game should've been over already unless Willby is drawing it out to the last man for some reason... that would be cruel. So I think we probably have 2 mafia left aboard our ship.

Everyone seems to think Voth is town, but I can’t figure out why?

I’ve read edify as town, had some suspicion of hookerchew all along, generally perpetually suspicious of kthx even when there’s no active mafia games going on.. but if it weren’t for vehicles results pointing to ixt and Paul, I’d be on Voth, as mentioned.

One thing I did notice while reading old commuter claims from previous games, is that Paul is more aggressive when town. He seems a bit dopey this game, but could just be channeling his freshly emasculated dog? One thing is certain, Willby is a fuckin dick.

[Halp]

So now that we know ixt's BG claim was real, where does that leave us? Does it leave us with the_paul being decisively guilty?

If we lynch kthx and he's town is that game end? Even though he's been rude to me most of all the game, if he's town then I don't know where else to go but to follow Vehicle's evidence and go for the_paul. The fact that the_paul and kthx are at odds with each other is noticeable (I mean it would be stupid if they were both mafia to be chummy in the same vein).

6 people left right now
D5 - down a townie
N5 - down another townie
D6 - 4 people left and assuming at LEAST 2 mafia still remain, possibly 3 (what the heck).

Voth has led me to believe he's town. Halp I believe is town. Hook I have no idea on as he lurked most of the game and voted on the same bandwagons I voted on.

whats your view on the_paul?

[Edify]

Reasons why I think Voth is town: voting patterns besides agitating people @ me 50% of the game have been mafia D1 and did not take part in the bandwagon votes on 2-3 townies so far I think. As a mafia it'd be much easier to just join these huge bandwagons that were going for decisive townie deaths.

Personally I think t_p is the surest mafia lynch barring any game-breaking roles being present. However, I'm trying to align votes with Voth since I believe he is town. Voth

Ahhh what to do. I'll check back later. We've still got some time.

Actually if we still had 3 mafia at this point the game should've been over already unless Willby is drawing it out to the last man for some reason... that would be cruel. So I think we probably have 2 mafia left aboard our ship.

[Edify]

To be clear, if the death is instant, the bodyguard should stop the kill, regardless of flavor, and there’s nothing in the role description to suggest bodyguards can’t stop a poison kill.

So now that we know ixt's BG claim was real, where does that leave us? Does it leave us with the_paul being decisively guilty?

If we lynch kthx and he's town is that game end? Even though he's been rude to me most of all the game, if he's town then I don't know where else to go but to follow Vehicle's evidence and go for the_paul. The fact that the_paul and kthx are at odds with each other is noticeable (I mean it would be stupid if they were both mafia to be chummy in the same vein).

6 people left right now
D5 - down a townie
N5 - down another townie
D6 - 4 people left and assuming at LEAST 2 mafia still remain, possibly 3 (what the heck).

Voth has led me to believe he's town. Halp I believe is town. Hook I have no idea on as he lurked most of the game and voted on the same bandwagons I voted on.

[Halp]

Seeing as were at half the original cast, I'm going to start speeding up phases. Let's aim to be done by tomorrow, noonish central time.

Shut up you sadistic fuk.

[Halp]

To be clear, if the death is instant, the bodyguard should stop the kill, regardless of flavor, and there’s nothing in the role description to suggest bodyguards can’t stop a poison kill.

[Halp]

Could be an x-shot mafia poisoner. Poison kills can't be stopped by a bodyguard.

Willby made it clear in exalt’s death, at least, that the kill was instant. Additionally, there is literally nothing in this game to suggest you’re innocent except that you voted for backwards D1, and you indicated that you thought it might be “too late” to vote. You were wrong, it wasn’t too late, but maybe that was just a fumble?

I'm fine with that, but is there time? I think Willbys deadline was met but...

unvote beast
vote backwards

To be honest, if I were going just on gut, let the record show that my vote would be on Voth.

[the_paul]

I don't have a ton of time to make a long drawn out post, I tend to agree with Voth on this one, and since that worked for me before:

Vote KTHX

I'll be more active at work tomorrow if I need to make this a little bit more poetic