TW Mafia 2020: TIGER KING - Murder, Mayhem, Madness

[Beast]

VOTE VEHICLE

if vehicle flips town, i'm targeting kthx, and scarlet asap. since they think vehicle is scum without any factual evidence.

[scarlet]

Just leaving this here for scarlet where I admitted to wanting to lynch kthx but walking it back after. Before his multi quote essay.

WOW! On page 25, after every post I quoted! After the posts where I quoted them! I guess your old posts from before you posted that that I quoted before you posted that don't exist anymore!
And what, you're claiming that Exalt is vilifying you for an idea which he convinced you of?

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Fuck sake.
I've been reading

How can you possibly say suggesting to shoot anyone is pro-town?

As "How can you possibly say suggesting to shoot anyone (including kthx) is pro-town?". I'm guessing it's supposed to be read as "How can you possibly say suggesting to shoot anyone (instead of kthx) is pro-town?".
That was the basis for my changing my vote, so I'll move it back and restart the case on Voth sometime when I've been awake for less than 30 hours i.e. D2
Vote Vehicle

[Exalt]

Also, scarlett revealed their flavor ame. Idk if that shit matters or not, but if I were scum, I sure as hell wouldn't take the chance just in case it was relevant.

[kthx]

Kthx been a big deflector. He won't even share his character name when in the hot seat. At least you shared ur name scarlet which I respect.

I'm not going to let the precedent be set of all role claiming day one, and especially when I might be a target for mafia. And I won't sit here and be pressured into doing it based on a fake claim especially. I think I proved that when I consistently asked you to shoot me because I know I am town.

[Exalt]

If you really think I sat there going paragraph for paragraph with you about this whole Jessup debacle as scum, I don't know what to say. I was clearly scum hunting and strategizing for the best interests of town, at least in my opinion.

I did initially say we should lynch Kthx but after hearing your arguments about it I agreed he should shoot Kthx and said multiple times that we should force his hand to do that and only that. Shooting randomly is retarded and anti-town - and both Vehicle and I said that. I don't know if Vehicle is scum or not but Scarlets bullshit spin campaign while he wasn't even a part of the entire situation is pretty hilarious. It's convenient as hell to lurk
through the shit of everything and then Monday morning quarterback the whole thing calling people scum.

This is why I'm not voting you and I'm voting Vehicle. You're at least always discussing it in real time. Its obvious to me at least that Vehicle has the higher chance to be scum between the two of you.

What I dont understand is your position defending Vehicle.

Maybe scarlett is playing Monday morning QB, idk. I dont know their meta to know what to think about them, but I dont see anything they've said as scummier than what Vehicle did. I could name a few players that seem worse to me than scarlett, which is why idk what that wagon is for. Whose scarlet's teammates if they're scum? I'm town so that one's a no go. Kthx is possible if I squint real hard. Anyone else? Point is, they're a bad lynch today. Vehicle is not.

[Voth]

If you really think I sat there going paragraph for paragraph with you about this whole Jessup debacle as scum, I don't know what to say. I was clearly scum hunting and strategizing for the best interests of town, at least in my opinion.

I did initially say we should lynch Kthx but after hearing your arguments about it I agreed he should shoot Kthx and said multiple times that we should force his hand to do that and only that. Shooting randomly is retarded and anti-town - and both Vehicle and I said that. I don't know if Vehicle is scum or not but Scarlets bullshit spin campaign while he wasn't even a part of the entire situation is pretty hilarious. It's convenient as hell to lurk
through the shit of everything and then Monday morning quarterback the whole thing calling people scum.

Just leaving this here for scarlet where I admitted to wanting to lynch kthx but walking it back after. Before his multi quote essay.

[Jessup]

I find it odd to make a train on those who believed my cop claim. Voth and vehicle not on my radar really sigh. Scarlet the only reason I backed off you is you are my husband and I'm using flavor which is perhaps a bad idea. I'm not saying though your theory is wrong but I don't think this phase we should focus on the 2 most pro town seeming who fell for my claim. Again if Kthx flips town. well then I will def question them but it seems premature to go for either voth or vehicle now.

Kthx been a big deflector. He won't even share his character name when in the hot seat. At least you shared ur name scarlet which I respect.

[Voth]

Vote Voth
Switching only because it's easier to post:

What voth actually said:

In comparison, the very first Exalt post after that:

Every fucking time someone shows up in the thread without having read anything than needing to explain everything between pages 11-now like I do for the Vehicle lynch.
Vehicle is still scum though.

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Besides the fact that that's very obviously untrue, you also contradicted that in your last fucking post

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Jessup Either show me where kthx has completely lied about what's happened in this thread and also contradicted himself completely with two concurrent posts or switch to the Voth lynch please.

Yup, and then after more discussion I walked it back and said he should shoot Kthx, but you just leave that part out of your multi-quote essays conveniently.

Too bad I don't can't Monday morning quarterback your posts on the subject - there aren't any. How great is that?

[scarlet]

Vote Voth
Switching only because it's easier to post:

Town: if you are really going to sit here and allow scarlet and Exalt to vilify the two players who said that shooting a random player is not a good idea and instead we should shoot the alleged guilty result (kthx) so we can then turn to a regular D1 lynch where we have people accountable for their vote on D2.

What voth actually said:

What does make me curious is those of you (including Kthx himself) who are suggesting he should just shoot Kthx now. Well, that means he uses his kill shot too, when we could just lynch Kthx right now to confirm Jessup and if he's confirmed, he still has his kill shot to use.

This is pretty basic stuff fellas, and any seasoned player (looking at you Willby) who suggests that Jessup use his shot instead of lynching Kthx to confirm Jessup as town or scum is probably on Kthx's scum team if he flips scum.

It doesn't get any fucking easier than this on Day 1, morons:

1. Lynch Kthx
2. If he flips scum, Jessup 99% confirmed.
3. If he flips town, Jessup is scum and lynched tomorrow.

In comparison, the very first Exalt post after that:

Why are you freaking out lol. Just shoot Kthx if you're a dayvig or whatever your weird made up role is. I wont believe it otherwise.

Every fucking time someone shows up in the thread without having read anything than needing to explain everything between pages 11-now like I do for the Vehicle lynch.
Vehicle is still scum though.

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All I was saying was that we had to confront the Jessup issue one way or the other, whether it was lynching Kthx to confirm Jessup as town or scum or him shooting Kthx. How can you possibly say suggesting to shoot anyone is pro-town? That is the worst possible move to suggest.

Besides the fact that that's very obviously untrue, you also contradicted that in your last fucking post

Town: if you are really going to sit here and allow scarlet and Exalt to vilify the two players who said that shooting a random player is not a good idea and instead we should shoot the alleged guilty result (kthx) so we can then turn to a regular D1 lynch where we have people accountable for their vote on D2.

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Jessup Either show me where kthx has completely lied about what's happened in this thread and also contradicted himself completely with two concurrent posts or switch to the Voth lynch please.

[Voth]

If you really think I sat there going paragraph for paragraph with you about this whole Jessup debacle as scum, I don't know what to say. I was clearly scum hunting and strategizing for the best interests of town, at least in my opinion.

I did initially say we should lynch Kthx but after hearing your arguments about it I agreed he should shoot Kthx and said multiple times that we should force his hand to do that and only that. Shooting randomly is retarded and anti-town - and both Vehicle and I said that. I don't know if Vehicle is scum or not but Scarlets bullshit spin campaign while he wasn't even a part of the entire situation is pretty hilarious. It's convenient as hell to lurk
through the shit of everything and then Monday morning quarterback the whole thing calling people scum.

[kthx]

Retorts just like this have been consistent kthx and to me that is scummy as crap. Every post was insult, lurk , and deflect and say nothing of consequence from beginning to end so far this phase. I've said time and time again either way you flip too info is out there to work off if we know where you stand. sigh..

Your saying I'm lurking but 90% of this thread is bullshit from your fake claim against me anyways and meanwhile there are 10 people with 0-2 posts that you are ignoring. Its fucking silly.

[Voth]

2020 Voth cant even read anymore it seems. Kinda a big fall off my man. I hope you get some sleep sometime in the next few months. That baby must be making it hard to think straight.

I said it 50 times now what my position was, which proved to be correct. I said Jessups claim was bullshit, but she could prove it wasnt by shooting Kthx. She refused for a long while by saying it wastes the shot (as if shooting scum is a waste?) So i said shoot literally anyone then, but shoot like you claim, otherwise your faking it all. Guess who was right? Not you. Not Vehicle. Me. I was the only one with common fucking sense to call it out, and you two fools fell for it hook, line, and sinker in the hopes of getting an easy mislynch through. The only ones who got played were you. You were caught red handed by Jessup.

I never said I believed Jessups claim, I actually said it made me very weary. All I was saying was that we had to confront the Jessup issue one way or the other, whether it was lynching Kthx to confirm Jessup as town or scum or him shooting Kthx. How can you possibly say suggesting to shoot anyone is pro-town? That is the worst possible move to suggest.

[Exalt]

Town: if you are really going to sit here and allow scarlet and Exalt to vilify the two players who said that shooting a random player is not a good idea and instead we should shoot the alleged guilty result (kthx) so we can then turn to a regular D1 lynch where we have people accountable for their vote on D2.

You guys are getting played and too lazy to even care.

2020 Voth cant even read anymore it seems. Kinda a big fall off my man. I hope you get some sleep sometime in the next few months. That baby must be making it hard to think straight.

I said it 50 times now what my position was, which proved to be correct. I said Jessups claim was bullshit, but she could prove it wasnt by shooting Kthx. She refused for a long while by saying it wastes the shot (as if shooting scum is a waste?) So i said shoot literally anyone then, but shoot like you claim, otherwise your faking it all. Guess who was right? Not you. Not Vehicle. Me. I was the only one with common fucking sense to call it out, and you two fools fell for it hook, line, and sinker in the hopes of getting an easy mislynch through. The only ones who got played were you. You were caught red handed by Jessup.

[scarlet]

In comparison, the very first Exalt post after that:

Why are you freaking out lol. Just shoot Kthx if you're a dayvig or whatever your weird made up role is. I wont believe it otherwise.

[scarlet]

Scarlet I understand sort of where you are coming from but I don't see going for people who believed my cop claim is right move right now. Vehicle seems innocent to me .. (he was trusting of cop claim and guilty verdict AND was against me wasting a kill) am I just gullible as crap? I don't see where he stands out.

Multi-action daycop+dayvig is totally unbelievable. Unless you're telling me Vehicle is hopelessly incompetent, there's no way he could have believed your claim if he wasn't already sure you were town. Even if he did, you'd for sure be killed or roleblocked if you were a confirmed vig, so not using the dayvig power on kthx when you had the chance would have just wasted the shot.
Since that time, Vehicle has accused me of having advocated for things during a time when I wasn't active and has consistently written a strawman and called it my case against him instead of ever addressing my points. He's shown himself to be scum, whether or not you follow the original case.
In comparison, what do you have on kthx? He's done nothing?
Also, you didn't comment on Voth at all.

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Town: if you are really going to sit here and allow scarlet and Exalt to vilify the two players who said that shooting a random player is not a good idea and instead we should shoot the alleged guilty result (kthx) so we can then turn to a regular D1 lynch where we have people accountable for their vote on D2.

lol

What does make me curious is those of you (including Kthx himself) who are suggesting he should just shoot Kthx now. Well, that means he uses his kill shot too, when we could just lynch Kthx right now to confirm Jessup and if he's confirmed, he still has his kill shot to use.

This is pretty basic stuff fellas, and any seasoned player (looking at you Willby) who suggests that Jessup use his shot instead of lynching Kthx to confirm Jessup as town or scum is probably on Kthx's scum team if he flips scum.

It doesn't get any fucking easier than this on Day 1, morons:

1. Lynch Kthx
2. If he flips scum, Jessup 99% confirmed.
3. If he flips town, Jessup is scum and lynched tomorrow.