OK, I was wrong

[Dameon Angell]

For once I agree.

I need a witness on this. This is the first sign of the apocolypse.

[Jeansi]

I'm hoping Bush wins so you all can cry about him for 4 more years. Its good entertainment.

bush has unified the world like on one before. Too bad it's becoming a USA vs world rivalry instead of a "let's share the world and be eternal friends"-thing

[Fit of Rage]

what took you so long, everyone else in the world knows bush is a tool and any one else is better

If Bush is a hammer, Kerry is the nail. He's still a tool, just not as big of a tool. Compare it to a rape.

Bush is like a hardcore thug rape, Kerry is like a softcore porn rape.

[Nickname]

Yeah, I would have voted for Dean over Kerry or Bush. And nobody would ever allow Bush to invade Iran and N. Korea. I can't see that in the near future. If he did that, he should be impeached for being a war monger.

Thats where your wrong, he wouldn't.

[za gophar]

first of all pv is joking..

[Liquid Blue]

Yeah, I would have voted for Dean over Kerry or Bush. And nobody would ever allow Bush to invade Iran and N. Korea. I can't see that in the near future. If he did that, he should be impeached for being a war monger.

All those years of playing CS will be put into use when you get drafted for ww3. Impeached? HAH. He's still in office after using fake evidence to invade another country. Hell, he's running for office and might win even with that fact in everyone's head. I don't think we'll go for Iran or N. Korea though. I think he'll get some brass balls and try to say Osama is hiding in London or some shit.

[Mayo Inc.]

You foreigners should really think about this a little. Bush isn't bad for just American, he's bad for the whole damn world. Say what you will about supporting and patriotism and this and that, the fact is: HE IS CAUSING YOUNG PEOPLE FROM MANY COUNTRIES TO DIE EVERYDAY.

Will Kerry put that to a hault? Probably not too soon but the chances of him stopping the war are way better than if Bush stays in.

American needs to diversify it's voting options, lets get a black woman in the white house.

[Dameon Angell]

Thats where your wrong, he wouldn't.

Exactly. He knows the American people wouldn't stand for it.

All those years of playing CS will be put into use when you get drafted for ww3. Impeached? HAH. He's still in office after using fake evidence to invade another country. Hell, he's running for office and might win even with that fact in everyone's head. I don't think we'll go for Iran or N. Korea though. I think he'll get some brass balls and try to say Osama is hiding in London or some shit.

1. Actually, my cousin is looking for Osama right now in Afghanistan
2. It wasn't "fake evidence", but just bad intelligence. The intelligence couldn't of been better either, cause Saddam kept locking out UN inspectors and others. Basically, he brought this war upon himself by acting like he was hiding something. Why did he act like he had something to hide? Nobody knows, but better action had to be taken to make sure that he really did or didn't have something that he was "hiding". Now, after the takeover, we know that he didn't have anything and it was all one big bluff to pretend like he did have something to begin with.

Will Kerry put that to a hault? Probably not too soon but the chances of him stopping the war are way better than if Bush stays in.

He said himself in one speech that he can't end the war in Iraq, and he isn't gonna pull out the troops. I dunno if he changed his mind on that issue yet, though. A vote for Kerry is a vote for a Democrat Bush.

And I'm done arguing so I'm not bothering responding to anything else, cause it's pointless and noone will ever agree and this will only end when everyone gets bored and goes to the next "OMg, look at my titties" thread.

[Dameon Angell]

bad double post >.>

[Jeansi]

this is all socialist propaganda.
If you could, I bet you'd vote for Fidel, pv

[PUNK rock]

Heh, so says the guy that happens to be at prime draft age, if Bush should start on Iran or North Korea. If he gets re-elected, we'll see who cries the most.

The draft is not coming back, at least if the lawmakers want to be re-elected. I'm pretty sure popular opinion is HEAVILY against it, despite the proposed legislation.

And welcome to the good side pv

2. It wasn't "fake evidence", but just bad intelligence. The intelligence couldn't of been better either, cause Saddam kept locking out UN inspectors and others. Basically, he brought this war upon himself by acting like he was hiding something. Why did he act like he had something to hide? Nobody knows, but better action had to be taken to make sure that he really did or didn't have something that he was "hiding". Now, after the takeover, we know that he didn't have anything and it was all one big bluff to pretend like he did have something to begin with.

Saddam had been locking out the UN inspectors since 1997 I believe. You cna blame Clinton for that if you'd like, but that timeframe also includes a chunk of Bush's term.

The intelligence was used in a bad way. It was distorted to make people think that "OMG IRAQ IS GOING TO ATTACK AMERICA ANYDAY NOW!!!". The Daily Show had an interview with Cheney about some intelligence issue with Iraq and he denied having said that. Then they showed a pre-war interview where he said he was completely sure the intelligence regarding the questioned issue was correct.

[Ilya]

pv=nrt say it ain't so

[Torn Wing]

I'd vote Bush.

I'd like to go out and kill people legally. I bet its a great stress reliever.

[Bob (SRB)]

. It wasn't "fake evidence", but just bad intelligence.

the "intelligence" they were using was something like 8 years old.

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

In response to the whole "faulty intelligence" argument:

All I want is someone to step up and take responsibility--I want someone's ass on a platter, and I want it now. Face it, if you fuck up at work, and you cost your company tens of thousands of dollars, your ass gets fired. Plain and simple.

Now, take the same idea and apply it to the government. Now, you're not only costing the country MILLIONS (billions? probably) of dollars, but you're also costing innocent lives on both sides. It doesn't matter that they now say it was "faulty intelligence". The deed's done, my man, and it's time to pay the piper. Shit, think about all the judicial crap the US went through when Clinton got a blow job. How many Americans died because of Clinton's fuck-up?

None? Oh yeah. Well, what about the financial price? When Clinton was getting his knob waxed, how much did that cost the American taxpayer?

None? Well, none when the deed was actually going on, but the following witchhunt cost plenty.

So wait, we had a few years of Ken Starr shouting that the sky was falling, all the time calling for Clinton's impeachment. Now what do we have? A few normal people just wanting an answer as to why their little Billy or Sally is fighting in Iraq. You're lucky to not get expatriated at this point for even suggesting that the government was wrong.

My point is this: someone high up ADMIT THAT THEY FUCKED UP. Because this "ho hum hee haw" bullshit isn't cutting it with me. To quote the infamous Ed Rooney:

Les jeux sont faits. Translation: the jig is up. Your ass is mine.