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  • #46
    Originally posted by Ravisher
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    No, the AGP slot will be phased out. For the time being some motherboards will maintain AGP support. In those cases the AGP slot will in actuallity become and AGPe slot, which is formed by combining two regular PCI slots, which leads to a significant reduction in available bandwidth. Some manufacturers may choose to retain native AGP support, but although this is technically possible this will be more expensive and more difficult to implement because of the contraints on available space.

    As for pathways. PCI-Express offers a maximum of 32 lanes. Seen as some manufacturers plan to implement dual PCI-E 16x slots for SLI purposes, you'd say that this could pose somewhat of a problem, because there are no more free lanes for the PCI-E 1x slots. This is not the case however, because the northbridge can handle 32 lanes and any additional lanes will simply be routed thru the southbridge (VIA, I believe was the first to create a PCI-E capable southbridge).

    Also, seen as almost everything comes onboard nowadays you won't need to occupy as many expansion slots as before, and even if you do this will not become a problem, because there are plenty of slots available. Most motherboards will still offer 5 regular PCI slots in addition to the PCI-E 16x and PCI-E 1x slots. The advent of BTX somewhere in the near future should remedy some of ATX' component placement and airflow issues anyway.
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    • #47
      Ravisher takes doubleposting to the extreme.
      Maybe God was the first suicide bomber and the Big Bang was his moment of Glory.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by ConcreteSchlyrd
        It's also the worst way to dissipate heat.
        I don't want the heat to get out by radiating from the side of the computer, it comes out with the hot air the power supply blows out. I have 3 fans in the computer, one 12 cm that pushes it in, trough the hard drives and towards the grafics card, a second 12 cm on the processor and a third 12 cm after the power supply sucking out the air.
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        5: Da1andonly> =((
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        • #49
          Originally posted by Ravisher
          Almost there with that "monster guru", there is a pretty big difference between amd/intel, im a amd feller, intel is nice, but they dont support 64 bit, which when to oem win 64 comes out <i have the beta> its gonna rull over pentium, pentium also has a bigger fsb compared to amd, i wouldnt call amd a poor mans OC cpu due to the fx cpu's cost 800$ plus :P
          Ever heard of the Intel Itanium?
          Intel is currently working on their own 64 bit desktop CPU, which is radically diffrent from AMD's CPU.
          Where AMD's Hammer is simply a 64-bit extension on the old x86 architecture, Intel is in the process of designing a completely new architecture for their IA-64 CPU. This proces takes a wee bit more time, but the CPU will be commercially available long before 64-bit software goes mainstream.
          There's no place like 127.0.0.1

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Jeansi
            I don't want the heat to get out by radiating from the side of the computer, it comes out with the hot air the power supply blows out. I have 3 fans in the computer, one 12 cm that pushes it in, trough the hard drives and towards the grafics card, a second 12 cm on the processor and a third 12 cm after the power supply sucking out the air.
            Some people have 6 fans and a cooling system even WHEN their comp isn't in a furnace, that is your wooden box :O
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            • #51
              Originally posted by Kim
              Some people have 6 fans and a cooling system even WHEN their comp isn't in a furnace, that is your wooden box :O
              That's just bad planning and over-clocked/too highly tuned hardware.

              I'd rather underclock than overclock my computer.
              My old computer had a passive cooling, which means it had no fans or moving parts to cool it. It kept cool because warm air goes up and cold goes down. an amd duron 800 running at something like 566, and a little modding on the power supply.

              So only source of sound it had was the hard-drive, and that's a component which is raelly easy to silence.
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              • #52
                Got a ?

                [QUOTE=Displaced]im not into pcmark, but i was big into 3dmark about a year ago, always trying to get the top spot..


                I can do raids, but how do you get the sata to be stand alone, I installed my system on the ide, and want to use the sata as a back up till i get my other sata and put them in raid, its reads the sata on the POST test but cant find it no where in windows? got any idea's for that?
                :mad: Ravished :mad:

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                • #53
                  Aye

                  Originally posted by Fallen Angel
                  No, the AGP slot will be phased out. For the time being some motherboards will maintain AGP support. In those cases the AGP slot will in actuallity become and AGPe slot, which is formed by combining two regular PCI slots, which leads to a significant reduction in available bandwidth. Some manufacturers may choose to retain native AGP support, but although this is technically possible this will be more expensive and more difficult to implement because of the contraints on available space.

                  As for pathways. PCI-Express offers a maximum of 32 lanes. Seen as some manufacturers plan to implement dual PCI-E 16x slots for SLI purposes, you'd say that this could pose somewhat of a problem, because there are no more free lanes for the PCI-E 1x slots. This is not the case however, because the northbridge can handle 32 lanes and any additional lanes will simply be routed thru the southbridge (VIA, I believe was the first to create a PCI-E capable southbridge).

                  Also, seen as almost everything comes onboard nowadays you won't need to occupy as many expansion slots as before, and even if you do this will not become a problem, because there are plenty of slots available. Most motherboards will still offer 5 regular PCI slots in addition to the PCI-E 16x and PCI-E 1x slots. The advent of BTX somewhere in the near future should remedy some of ATX' component placement and airflow issues anyway.

                  Yea the atx placement sucks royaly, as for air flow, can solve the main heat problem and use water cooling, and use a few fans to circulate the air around the mobo, im gonna go look into that btx.
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                  • #54
                    I seen this.

                    Originally posted by Fallen Angel
                    Ever heard of the Intel Itanium?
                    Intel is currently working on their own 64 bit desktop CPU, which is radically diffrent from AMD's CPU.
                    Where AMD's Hammer is simply a 64-bit extension on the old x86 architecture, Intel is in the process of designing a completely new architecture for their IA-64 CPU. This proces takes a wee bit more time, but the CPU will be commercially available long before 64-bit software goes mainstream.

                    I seen this before, but isnt there 64 bit chip gona run like 1500$? and is it going to run registered or no reg/ecc ram? Amd will come out with something better as soon as Intel comes out with there 64 bit, but of course there has to be boards that come out with there 64 bit chip, hopefully they can choose more then 5 boards for there 64 bit chip, I got windows 64 beta its pretty sweet, has tons of bugs, but notice a huge difference in program loading, and processes done. You should be working for AMD/intel :P
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                    • #55
                      doubleposting?

                      Originally posted by Galleleo
                      Ravisher takes doubleposting to the extreme.
                      HOw about quad posting !!! take that!! im on a palm pilot what do ya expect :P
                      :mad: Ravished :mad:

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                      • #56
                        My Computer Is The Bestest

                        I realized it like above average height man in mongolia, due to the nature of those who play SS that i might have the powerfulest computer on this forum. EVeryone post your compy specs so that i might dunk on your celeron Ds with my 2400+ xp and 9700pro.

                        Ganon knight has a 6800gt but he doesn't come to this forum! My computer will reign supreme here. BWhahahahahahahaha

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                        • #57
                          Thread Merged. This thread here isn't that old, you can still bump it if you have something on-topic. Use the search tool next time.
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                          • #58
                            Real Computer:
                            Dual Processor G4 Quicksilver 1Ghz, with 1 Gig RAM, Geforce 4, 2x 80 gig Hard Drives, 2x SuperDrive (DVD Burner), running OS X 10.3.5

                            Oversized Atari:
                            Athlon 1Ghz, 512 meg RAM, Geforce FX5200, crappy hard drive, burner etc running Windows XP Professional
                            "Sexy" Steve Mijalis-Gilster, IVX

                            Reinstate Me.

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