Research 9/11

[Cops]

what a bunch of hogwash.

[Benno]

Google up "boeing 707 weight" then "boeing 767 weight", take into account all involved planes were outbound transatlantic flights loaded with jet fuel, then google up newton's second law, THINK, then shut up. While you're at it google up "tacoma narrows bridge" and consider that not all feats of architecture work as advertised.

[Squeezer]

Ok, Tone, lets play ball.

If there were bombs under the WTC buildings, and the terrorists had already tried to bomb the towers in 1991, why do they need the planes? Why not just say it was a bombing? It makes no sense.

[Theif of Time]

nothing short of an explosion could reduce the contents of a machine shop to rubble.

I like how this article leaps to this logic. Especially since it is an 'eye witness account' of a room 'so thick with smoke we could hardly see'

[Bob (SRB)]

a bunch of stuff

Ok, just to make it clear, I never said I was agreeing with what tone says in any way.

You are right, people haven't talked about weasels in this topic, but in basically every other topic most of the same people did. I just really don't see much of a reason for people hating tone so much, other than the fact that he was so persistent in getting the weasels changed (I actually respect his persistence). Of course I could never prove this, but I feel that he wouldn't get the same harsh reception from every single one of his posts if he had nothing to do with the weasel incident. And that's not just in this thread, in almost every single thread he posts in, where most of his posts are innocent enough, someone will still follow it with an insult to him.

When talking about information from CNN and FOX I mostly meant what squeezer said about the black box, and just the fact that every single one of us saw CNN reporting on 9/11 basically non-stop for a good while after it occurred. Trust me, I've seen my fair share of American news programs, and they are pretty biased. Especially when I compare them to something like CBC or BBC news. I'm not as ignorant as you think I am. I actually find it pretty ignorant that just because beside my location it says Ottawa, Canada, you assume I know shit all about America. I'm not some America hating Canadian who believes that your country is filled up with a bunch of inbred hicks, I was just stating the obvious fact that the Bush administration is particularly secretive and underhanded. I know that not all Americans are Bush lovers, but none of you, nor I, know how many strings he's pulling behind his country's eyes.

Yes, as I said before, a lot of tone's resources aren't so reliable. But some of the stuff he's posting aren't from some crazy conspiracy theory sites. I somewhat disagree with you saying that his methods aren't working in persuasion. Especially when he is offering up a LOT of information backing his case (nomatter how unfounded it might be) while most people arguing with him aren't offering up anything reliable, only... the opinions of a teenage kid on the internet. As I said before though, ewan's sites were also pretty persuasive, along with some of the stuff kolar said also. I'm personally not persuaded in either direction, because on one side I have mostly a bunch of farfetched conspiracies that may or may not expose some descrepencies, while on the other side there's the notorious Bush regime, I'm not even going to go into some of the atrocious stuff these fools have commited to prove their unreliability.

For all I know or care, Tone could be completely wrong, but a lot of you seem just a little too quick to dismiss every single point he has brought up.

[Tone]

Ok, Tone, lets play ball.

If there were bombs under the WTC buildings, and the terrorists had already tried to bomb the towers in 1991, why do they need the planes? Why not just say it was a bombing? It makes no sense.

its more fantastic and terrorizing. imagine, both buildings going down like that after one plane nicks one and spills most the jetfuel outside and the other hits the north tower

Flight 11
9/11
flight 77. 77 degrees longitude, DC was placed at 77 degrees on purpose by the masons, its 'god's logitude'
chicago stock closes at 911.00 on 9/11
new york lottery 9 1 1 on 9/11/02
911 days after 9/11 was 3/11 in madrid spain (the train bombing, staged)
etc etc etc etc

psychos, just like occult serial killers

[Theif of Time]

assuming all this is true, what is your theory of why it is not public knowledge/not everyone believes/knows it?

And the number coincidinces are simply that, coincidences, except in the cases where people plan them. Was 911 planned to be on september 11 for the psychological factor? Probably, whoever it was that planned it (Bush admin and/or Al'queda)

[Tone]

assuming all this is true, what is your theory of why it is not public knowledge/not everyone believes/knows it?

ignorance, media, propaganda, prior programming (such as showing binladen before 9/11 and the USS cole story oct 10 2000). most the media is owned by a few who have control over the next in command who have control over the next, etc. a pyramid structure.

i remember when 9/11 occured i thought bin laden. it was implanted in me by the USS cole story and a lot of coverage of him after that

[Theif of Time]

I wonder what Bin Laden himself has to say about all of this: If he were here he could answer many questions.

[Benno]

bin laden> I am bush's pawn. I am not fighting for my own ideals, but to secure oil for die fuhrer.

[Theif of Time]

If only he would. Release some statement at least. Or maybe he doesn't know he's Bush's pawn. Btw, Bush and Bin Laden are both devil worshippers and adventurers of the highest level.

It is a testament to Osama Bin Laden's mastery of 9th-level illusions that he has not yet been caught and Iraq's WMD have not been found (he is hiding them in the non-material extra-dimensions of his beard).

[Tone]

I wonder what Bin Laden himself has to say about all of this: If he were here he could answer many questions.

"I have already said that I am not involved in the 11 September attacks in the United States. As a Muslim, I try my best to avoid telling a lie. I had no knowledge of these attacks, nor do I consider the killing of innocent women, children and other humans as an appreciable act. Islam strictly forbids causing harm to innocent women, children and other people. Such a practice is forbidden even in the course of a battle."

- Usama bin laden

[Benno]

Well thats a load of my chest. I guess we can exhonerate Usama and all sleep easy.

[Jerome Scuggs]

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne.../11/wbin11.xml

OSAMA BIN LADEN has for the first time admitted that his al-Qa'eda group carried out the attacks on the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon, the Telegraph can reveal.

[Tone]

http://www.portal.telegraph.co.uk/ne.../11/wbin11.xml

impossible, unless his men implanted demolition explosives, planes disappear into pentagons, and CIA runs drills of planes flying into buildings the same day and orders norad to stand down due to coincidence, etc