Nietsche!

[FeralNostalgia]

i'm new here so id thought id break some ice with some philosophy




"god is dead" is probably his most famous quote and the epitome of his nihilistic views. his nihilism is overwhelming. i dont understand the validity of many of his arguments, but he has some good points, like with the christian view of home values and theyre effect on society. thoughts?

[genocidal]

Nietzsche*

[Saturn V]

I think you're already hated. Enjoy.

[Dant-Zu]

Nice usage of complex words! :fear:
Can't say anything that is on topic since I haven't yet read any Nietzsche. I'm planning to tho!

[Facetious]

i'm new here so id thought id break some ice with some philosophy




"god is dead" is probably his most famous quote and the epitome of his nihilistic views. his nihilism is overwhelming. i dont understand the validity of many of his arguments, but he has some good points, like with the christian view of home values and their effect on society. thoughts?

i never studied him, what are his views on christian home values

i dont understand why people say "youre already hated" to every single person that comes on the forums

[Send]

this reminds me of the episode of friends where joey tries to be smart and he signs his letter with baby kangaroo

great episode

[Fluffz]

the street i live in is called Nietzschestrasse. beat that

[GHB]

that's so deep

[Liquid Blue]

What is the biggest factor that would speed to anarchy?

Instead of making another topic, I'll just throw this question in here, since no one is biting at the OP.

I was thinking about what happened in New Orleans, and what happened during the tsunami in asia, and how women were raped and people looted and stole from one another. What in your opinion, is the biggest factor that once lost, would make our civilization (or even a small town/city) resort to a more brutal, primal, greedy/crazy lifestyle?

Loss of electricty?

Loss of law enforcement?

Loss of accountability? (no longer being worried about being held responsible for your actions)


I know during earthquakes, tsunamis and hurricanes, the desire to survive is heightened (which might account for the looting), but what about the violence, the rapes? In essence, what do you think keeps humans in general from falling into savagery?

I've seen a few movies where there is an "end of the world" scenario, and people go crazy, but I would just like to know what is /are some key factors in this degredation of our society.

[Vykromond]

Loss of accountability? (no longer being worried about being held responsible for your actions)

well, doesn't this emanate from other disasters eg. new orleans? it's sort of a sub-cause, so i'm not entirely sure it's fair to put it as a choice: it seems like the obvious front-runner when in fact it isn't strictly "legal" since it presupposes other factors which are possible 'choices.'

to the OP:

"god is dead" is probably his most famous quote and the epitome of his nihilistic views.

how? "god is dead" is actually extremely minor, it's just been blown up into this overly significant mantra in a way that isn't really fair to nietzche.

FWIW i've never thought of him as unduly nihilistic, either.

[Bioture]

Nietzsche> God is dead!
God> Nietzsche is dead!

Owned.

[Liquid Blue]

well, doesn't this emanate from other disasters eg. new orleans? it's sort of a sub-cause, so i'm not entirely sure it's fair to put it as a choice: it seems like the obvious front-runner when in fact it isn't strictly "legal" since it presupposes other factors which are possible 'choices.'

Well I'm asking what would drive us into doing violent things, or what would we have to lose to drive us to do such crazy things. Loss of electricity and law enforcement could also emenate from disasters, so I thought accountability would work. For instance, you could still have cops after a disaster, but the cops might not care about enforcing the law anymore and loot right next to you. Maybe the loss of electricity would case refrigerators to shut down and drive people to other places to get food. Maybe even drive them to do violent things, if there is a low amount/ high demand. Even if a guy knew he would get in trouble for stealing some food, he might still do it if he has kids to worry about.

[Lemufa]

i'm new here so id thought id break some ice with some philosophy




"god is dead" is probably his most famous quote and the epitome of his nihilistic views. his nihilism is overwhelming. i dont understand the validity of many of his arguments, but he has some good points, like with the christian view of home values and theyre effect on society. thoughts?

Well, at least you tried, sonny. Nietzsche was opposed to nihilism in general. He sought to oppose nihilism through the discovery of a meaningful life. Now, granted, his view on the repetition of human existence was a little freaky, his philosophy in general (save the bitter hatred of christianity, and his belief that it was detrimental to mankind) is pretty mild. I'd say he's more existentialist than anything.

Now, about "god is dead." It's not comparable to saying....oh...in Fit of Rage or Stabwound's case..."TW is dead." Now of course, that would mean for the two of them that life would be meaningless and they would fall into nihilism, but we've already decided that Nietzsche wasn't Nihilistic. "God is dead" is more of a statement regarding the loss of logic through christian morality and structures and how Christianity doesn't deify, but instead chokes itself on its on philosophic perforations. Nietzsche believe in "the will to power" as man's engine, or motivating force.

Nietzsche is intriguing, to say the least. Everyone here should delve into "Antichrist" or "Why I think Fit of Rage is an utterly useless fuck."



Thanks to a certain someone for a certain action allowing another certain action. I love you, you dog.

[ZeUs!!]

Yeah I unbanned him so he could debate Neithchesomething. I'm not a total bastard

[Vykromond]

okay, good point. to refine what i said, i still think you're asking about two things at the same time:



I think your question needs to essentially be pared down to deal with one of these tiers at a time. i'm unclear about which one you want to know: which of the primary tier most profoundly affects an individual's progress to the secondary tier, or which of the second tier most profoundly accelerates the final breakdown.

edit: it took me a while to make that paint gif, so melufe and zeus posted in between. to clarify, i am replying to Liquid Blue