What do you think about Kerry's "bad joke" ?

[Liquid Blue]

The other day Kerry made a "bad joke" which has set fire to the Republicans and made the democrats shake their heads and go "god dammit, Kerry.
Here's what he said-

"You know education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. If you don't you get stuck in Iraq ."

Now, I have the words bad joke in quotation marks because I don't even see how that's a joke, much less how he thought anything stemming from that comment would end well. Seriously, how did that even remotely seem like a good thing to say in public- regardless if you thought it was funny or not. This is how he responded when people shit their pants-

"[N]o Democrat is going to be bullied by these people, by these kinds of attacks that have no place in American politics. It's time to set our policy correct."

"Our own intelligence agency has told us they're creating more terrorists, not less. They're making us less safe, not more."

"My statement yesterday - and the White House knows this full well - was a botched joke about the President and the President's people, not about the troops."

So what do you think?

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meaningless propaganda days prior to the election, of which will hold no consequence to the outcomes.

If people really take to heart what Kerry said, then they should be 100 times more pissed with Bush not knowing how to speak in general. I just love the OBGYN speech Bush made.

We have to help the OBGYN's so that they can continue...their...uh...uh...love for women.

LOL

Kerry is an idiot and everyone knows it, but the elections have nothing to do with kerry since he is not running.

Will not have an effect in my opinion. All I can say is at least Kerry served his time in the Armed forces...in active combat, unlike the majority of the idiots in office today.

[Fluffz]

oh noe, he made a bad joke about your foreign policy and people dying in your fucking useless war! hang him! of course how he said it is a much bigger disaster than what he said.

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oh noe, he made a bad joke about your foreign policy and people dying in your fucking useless war! hang him! of course how he said it is a much bigger disaster than what he said.

What he said had absolutely nothing to do with foreign policy Fluffz.

If you look at what he said and go back in time to the Vietnam War of which was actually Frances problem to begin with...why we even had a part in that fiasco is still amazing to me...blame the asswipe J.F.Kennedy for sending Advisors and escalating that era. Anyway...the U.S. had a draft for the military back then and if you happened to be an idiot that droped out of High School or didn't go to college, you usually found yourself in the military being shipped off to Vietnam (unless you happen to be Cheney and get 5 deferments of ridiculous reasoning as to why he couldn't go...fat f'n piece of crap he is) with a high percentage probabbility of coming home shipped in a box.

What is amazing to me is that a great percentage of the politicians today lived during the Vitenam fiasco and more or less, probably where not in favor of it, and today they just sit idly watching history repeat itself with no action on their parts whatsoever.

As for this being my war or anyone else's in this country....I am in no way in favor of it and speak out against it quite often. We get herded into back alley's or pushed blocks away from an event when we protest so that we do not upset people; if we cross the line and protest outside of the designated protest area, you are arrested for disturbing the peace. Always fun going to the Philly Police Round House in bracelets.

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404, please elect Harold Ford and the guy running against Rick Santorum.

I don't care who he is, as long as he isn't Rick fucking Santorum.

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404, please elect Harold Ford and the guy running against Rick Santorum.

I don't care who he is, as long as he isn't Rick fucking Santorum.

LOL...I think Santorum will most likely lose in PA. Bob Casey Jr. is who is running against him


Harold Ford is running in TN btw. Not my state, but if I could, I would vote for Ford.

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Yeah, that's an absolutely fucking ridiculous thing to say. How could he not perceive that as being against the troops?

[Fluffz]

What he said had absolutely nothing to do with foreign policy Fluffz.

i guess if you are used to have at least have one war running all time you could think is is somehow unrelated to foreign policy.

how can u even care the tiniest bit about that joke, like you have no other problems. this is totaly beyond my understanding. the thing is, what he said is sort of true i guess, isnt THAT the actual reason to make a thread, talk about? no. its a "bad joke". this is how u get manipulated. a bad joke, media attention. BAM. lightshow and flags. nevermind reality.

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i guess if you are used to have at least have one war running all time you could think is is somehow unrelated to foreign policy.

What where the other wars prior to Iraq? the 1st Iraqi war a decade earlier? or was it the Euro fiasco that everyone ignored for years in Bosnia? Why we even had anything to do or help with that was ridiculous in my opinion.
prior to the 1st Iraq conflict there was that War in Grenada where we helped the UK...I think that lasted 4 hours? We had a hard time when we came up against the Univeristy Janitors holding out on the Tennis courts.

Prior to Grenada....was Vietnam in the early 70's.

I agree though on one part. We should not have participated with the U.N. in Bosnia. That was Europes problem for years and not ours.

I hate talking politics on TW Forums...uhg. Promised I wouldn't do this anymore.

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Will not have an effect in my opinion. All I can say is at least Kerry served his time in the Armed forces...in active combat, unlike the majority of the idiots in office today.

im not sure if your taking a dig at george bush or not, but is like serving in the armed forces important when running for office over there? over here it has no real importance and i cant say ive heard it mentioned. is it an important aspect to winning a campaign? to be promoted by your side or pounced upon by the opponent? is it more important in the red states? not to be offensive but it seems to be important in countries prone to "warring" i.e isreal i know it was an issue with Ehud Olmert.

im not kicking off, im just curious.

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im not sure if your taking a dig at george bush or not, but is like serving in the armed forces important when running for office over there? over here it has no real importance and i cant say ive heard it mentioned. is it an important aspect to winning a campaign? to be promoted by your side or pounced upon by the opponent? is it more important in the red states? not to be offensive but it seems to be important in countries prone to "warring" i.e isreal i know it was an issue with Ehud Olmert.

im not kicking off, im just curious.

Its not that serving in the Armed Forces is such an important factor, but when the political parties try and run smear campigns against those that did serve and had seen active combat, then call them basically a coward or a liar when they served, some are even amputee's running...and they are being ridiculed as bogus military service people that most likely did not receive injury in battle, then it has some importance. The smear campaigns that both parties are running make me wanna puke here!

We have the war of which nobody is really thrilled about, that was based upon false information and not to say poor handling by those in charge of which are making decisions that the have no experience in doing...

One could go on and on about who said what and point fingers here and there. Not worth it here...but what is worth working on, is making a change that will take our troops out of Iraq and stop the senseless escalated violence that happens upon an occupation of a country with no strategy to end the violence. Well there was one strategy...War for Profit...Halliburton and Bechtel...amazing that the current U.S. administration has so many majority shares within that company and Cheney was the previous CEO. Halliburton turned a 3.8 Billion Dollar profit in the past year in Iraq. Business being done on the supposed restructur of Iraq that was not even allowed for public bid...was all private contracts handed out. Its a war for profit at the expense of innocent lives and the sacraficing of U.S. troops. Funny when I hear politicians say that citizens need to make a sacrafice for their country...does that mean letting these idiots in charge sacrafice your life for their personal profit and gain?



Come on...this war is not about freedom and democracy, but control over an area to strategically deploy military and control through a puppet Iraqi president. There is alot more to it and I can go on and on with finance statements and contracts of which are all public for everyone to see online if they care, plus declassified documents by the CIA and FBI.

People just do not care in the States...they are more interested in TV shows like Celebrity this and that and all these f'n reality crap shows. Not to mention the outrage of Janet Jackson breast being seen on TV...so shocking! yet the blatant problems with FEMA and NOLA, MS, AL take a back seat to such important items as the Bullshit we get to sidetrack a nation of idiots. Both parties alone spent somewhere over 150 million per State running TV and Radio ads to smear the other...shame it can't help the homeless in the Katrina disaster areas..shame we can't apply it to education....nope we waste it on smear campaigns for 3 months and then sit for 4 years arguing how we will generate money for programs that usually never get the monies promissed...I gotta stop!

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I'd forgotten he existed

[Liquid Blue]

i guess if you are used to have at least have one war running all time you could think is is somehow unrelated to foreign policy.

how can u even care the tiniest bit about that joke, like you have no other problems. this is totaly beyond my understanding. the thing is, what he said is sort of true i guess, isnt THAT the actual reason to make a thread, talk about? no. its a "bad joke". this is how u get manipulated. a bad joke, media attention. BAM. lightshow and flags. nevermind reality.

I agree, to an extent, especially last night when I only heard the last part of the joke, the stuck in Iraq part. It's not a huge deal, Kerry just said something stupid. The Republicans are using it to distract the public though and I even saw last night on the news how some idiots think he's unpatriotic now and how he needs to apologize. Can we get Bush to apologize for the shit he's gotten us in? No no, let's whine about Kerry even though the idiot isn't even in the elections.

[Fluffz]

What where the other wars prior to Iraq?

how bout afganistan, im pretty sure u guys were in that Congo war too. oh, and afghanistan again. and Irak again. there is a war every 2 or 3 years u guys participate at. and nevermind those other times american troups landed somewhere, assassinating someone, driving around with their huge ships scaring the shit out of everyone. Panama, Sudan, Haiti, Yugoslavia, hell where did u actually NOT fought in the last 50 years?

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People are offended because they think Kerry was saying you're in the military because you are stupid and can't get another job. Kerry himself, though, is (as everyone knows) a decorated war veteran. Why would he be calling soldiers idiots? Isn't he saying that he meant to call Bush the fool? By way of saying if you don't study you grow up to be stupid and then get America into pointless wars like Iraq in the first place. If that's what he meant it's no different from typical American campaigning that often involves slander along the lines of "I heard so-and-so slept with pre-teen girls, then made them have abortions. Would you elect someone like that? Vote for Johnny McWhite Republican on election day instead of Jim Terrorist-lover McDem!"

Seriously I feel badly for you Americans. It really is not an exaggeration. You have the worst political climate in the world. Also you get lied to constantly, it's a source of widespread mockery across the world.

I read that a majority of American's still thought that Iraq was directly involved in 9/11 and that weapons of mass destruction had been found. Outside of the United States a small minority of people believe that. That's because you've been told thats the case, while the rest of us were not told that.

(Iraq wasn't, weapons were never found, if you're wondering.)

I remember in Fahrenheit 9/11 that scene where whats-his-name went to capitol hill and was asking senators and representatives to sign their children up for the war in Iraq. That was really powerful to me. Sure, some of the film was exaggeration and stuff, but so was the crap they told you to get America into the war in the first place. Also, yes, some of them (like Kerry, unlike Bush or Cheney) have served in war. But if it was their kids dying in Iraq instead of your neighbors, do you really think as many of them would have been so eager to get up in there? I don't think so.