Iran

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

Why am I responding? I'm a sadist.

iran picking up a fight? yea, i bet they are going to move their fleet towards america any day now.

If Canada crossed the northern border last night (lead by Troll King, Master of All Devious Notions) and abducted a couple dozen of sleepy National Guard members, wouldn't you be taking it very seriously? I'm not saying that everyone should get crazy and start lobbing ordinance back and forth, but you'd agree that it's not a cool thing to do, right? In that sense, yes, they are trying to goad the US into military action, because that seems to be our only real response these days.

Thankfully, nothing has come of it so far.

they are developing nukes, i hate that like every1 else. but keep in mind america is the only country who has ever used them.

Huh? How does that make any difference? Look, using nukes is bad--I agree with you. But it's not like the US has been dropping atomic bombs every four months, like you make it sound. It was a terrible thing that two were used, but in retrospect it probably saved more lives than it cost. If you want to play the "America has actually USED nukes" game, you better be able to justify additional millions of deaths during WW2.

if the main reason to start a war is that they have a weapon of ultimate power id say it is utterly retarded to even think about starting a war with them is it?

That's the point, though. They DON'T have one yet--they want them to NOT have one. I'm not for a military intervention in Iran. I think at this point that diplomacy would at least be a good place to start. However, I think your views are a little misinformed and a little misplaced.

but somehow everyone got asshholes into power to fuck everything up and maybe because fucking democracy weights the vote of a retard the same as the vote of someone clever.

It's unfortunate, but I'd rather live in a society where everyone's voices can be heard. Once you start drawing lines of "who's clever enough to vote," you'll find yourself on a slippery slope.

Uk doesn't want war full stop, or at least on run by Americas. We can win wars on our own, but not with your "help". I think Americans have killed more UK troops than anyone else.....

And how is guantanmo bay acceptable. These people you have locked up should be tried and either jailed or released. I though America believed in the law. Obviously not, as you keep extraditing people from our country for crimes the "committed" in the UK. Personally i miss old maggie she would have have told you where to put it when you suggested this Iraq plan.

What amazes me is how much damage you are doing to your reputation in the UK, the one ally you've had in this war, and you are not helping at all to get our captured servicemen back.

In a recent survey American came up as more country which was most despised by UK people significantly above Iran.

Thanks for the advice, I'll pass it along to the president. This is all news to us.

[FarScape]

its not a war between iran and the west, but its a war between islam and the west.

those two are different civilizations. it didnt start yesterday or when the 15 british kidnapped or when israel was created. it was a rival that started even before the ottoman empire was in cotrol of half europe.
always the west was afraid of the islam in the east and south. to prove it even by now that the EU wont take turkey so easly into their group, just because no one really want a different culture inside them.

the islam ofcourse, most of them, wont want west culture in them, so there for they are very fanatical and afarid of it. but islam now is using the migration tool and sooner or later whole europe will be fallen to the islam just behind the corner, just because they didnt notice.
you know best probably dear europeans, all the right extreme parties who gain power in each year of elections.


you guys should really read the clash of civilzations by samuel huntington.
it will teach you everything about this shit world of ours.

[Da1andonly]

EDIT: ASKJFKAJSFÖASF fu doc flabby! I read your whole post wrong :P

PS. I pushed myself to the limits making myself go to work at 8am, only to have time to sit in the sun while it's still warm and drink beer. ^-^

[Kolar]

I didnt claim to know anything..

Nor did I.

I just love seeing everything twist into americas fault..

It isn't entirely. A good portion is because the same people who gave us the Iraq war have been pushing and setting up the frame work for a war on Iran and it has antagonized the Iranians. I see it as inevitable and sympathise with the American public but their leaders and political processes are just as at fault for the situation we are in today if not more when considering history.

Everything has changed since 1945, a major conflict between even such a small state like Iran and the US and her allies could trigger a much bigger war. And with todays technology any type of war on that scale will bring down civilization. When you talk about invading more countries or that we should be invading them all you have no idea how that can scare people (you being your average white trash Republican voter) because the smallest things can change our world and all of our lives. I'm sure it's all a joke to you, just entertainment and I'm sure you like to sit there smug in your superiority complex thinking because you're in the military you've got some kind of secret knowledge or different view of the situation blind to the rest of us but the truth really is our media is better and you're not going to see anything different except a RPG in the face unless you quickly get into some sort of intelligence branch.

FarScape: There's a large young Iranian population that favors western culture and is not fundamentalist, mostly secular or moderate. They have the same problem western countries have currently-Old people.

[Galleleo]

To be honest, I don't blindly believe the English when they claim that they were in Iraq waters.. not saying the Iranian's are right, but I am not just taking the British for their word either. I think that it is quite possible they went into Iranian waters, but then again, what's the big deal about that? Unless they were actually there spying on Iranian for hours at an end.. if they just kinda drifted into it controlling ships but weren't there for extremely long..

[Epinephrine]

its not a war between iran and the west, but its a war between islam and the west.

those two are different civilizations. it didnt start yesterday or when the 15 british kidnapped or when israel was created. it was a rival that started even before the ottoman empire was in cotrol of half europe.
always the west was afraid of the islam in the east and south. to prove it even by now that the EU wont take turkey so easly into their group, just because no one really want a different culture inside them.

the islam ofcourse, most of them, wont want west culture in them, so there for they are very fanatical and afarid of it. but islam now is using the migration tool and sooner or later whole europe will be fallen to the islam just behind the corner, just because they didnt notice.
you know best probably dear europeans, all the right extreme parties who gain power in each year of elections.


you guys should really read the clash of civilzations by samuel huntington.
it will teach you everything about this shit world of ours.

At first I thought you were just ridiculously ignorant, but then I saw your home location, and Shiran and Roi you are not.

Just to make sure, you do know that there are plenty of Muslims who are Israeli citizens too right? You should lock them up quick!

[Epinephrine]

To be honest, I don't blindly believe the English when they claim that they were in Iraq waters.. not saying the Iranian's are right, but I am not just taking the British for their word either. I think that it is quite possible they went into Iranian waters, but then again, what's the big deal about that? Unless they were actually there spying on Iranian for hours at an end.. if they just kinda drifted into it controlling ships but weren't there for extremely long..

I think the idea is that they were sailing in disputed waters. Iran has apperently claimed that area for themselves a while ago, but the Brits and the Americans insist that it's part of Iraq.

[Galleleo]

Hmm... didn't know that, but I still don't see the issue if they weren't spying on, or attacking Iran.

[Liquid Blue]

I wholeheartedly support this discussion

[ZeUs!!]

Who's the girl?

[Liquid Blue]

you testicle license has been revoked

please hand me your balls


(jessica biel)

[gran guerrero]

I see this whole middle east shit and iran crap as a cover up for something that is actually being planned that will go in effect in the near future. I don't think USA's government cares so much as to give 2 shits if iran is developing nuclear bombs, what they do care is that they are creating nuclear energy. Sooner or later in the future, oil resources will shrivel up, and the world will rely on atomic energy to run electricity and such. So far we know the keystone countries that has access to this already (america, great britain, germany, france, etc etc all the big names) now Iran has the capability of getting this, and this would mean bad business for US, seeing as it will be easily made in such areas. Right now I just see US trying to get everyone against Iran as a sort of a business move.

but...

this could also be another ploy to get everyone against iran and once leading the charge (USA) will eventually back out near the end and under new leadership (Barrack Obama anyone?) could develop a friendly relationship with Iran. Once iran has been established as an ally;alongside Saudi Arabia, we could see the middle east as US friendly territory now. Which develops what is to be a base against the "so-called" collapsed USSR, which will make a come back later in the future (why do you russia is friendly as hell with Iran, and urging them to continue with the nuclear energy development), so if iran becomes an ally with US, then it would put a foothold in any future communist movement by the east.

See Izor, anyone can make an opinion...Im iranian, I live in the USA, i love it here, so does my family back in Iran. Just cause someone with any political knowledge makes an opinion that goes against your ignorant shit doesn't make them stupid, it actually makes you look stupid. So please do us a favor and just shut up, or start making some sense rather than just "Lets just bomb em" that's something a person would say when they are high or drunk (which in itself is not bad!) but when it comes to politics, just don't bring that stupid shit up, it does you no good.

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I just don't get Izor's Signature: Hooyah Bulldogs! and then he has an Air Force Avatar?

Lets just face it already and admit that the world is a piece of shit and will most likely self destruct either by war or plague in our lifetime.

Nobody really cares...all anyone cares about are differences in people religious backgrounds and how much money one can get by taking advantage of another.

The world in general is just a piece of shit and Izor, you seem to be just one of many a piece of corn in that poop.

Liberal or Conservative...doesn't matter, who cares and life is not of any importance. Killing and screwing over everything on this planet is all that is of any worth.

[Chino]

The only nation in the world that has used nukes on other countries is trying to prevent others from developing technologie that could lead to massive of mass destruction.

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The only nation in the world that has used nukes on other countries is trying to prevent others from developing technologie that could lead to massive of mass destruction.

The U.S. and Britain are using them today on a smaller scale. British and American coalition forces are using depleted uranium (DU) in the tips of our shells in the war against Iraq and are deliberately flouting a United Nations resolution which classifies the munitions as illegal weapons of mass destruction.

The real odd thing here is that the country that we assumed had WMD and had none, was invaded and occupied today by countries that have WMD and have been using them against the peoples of Iraq. Is it any wonder why Iran is sceptical about the West's intentions when our governments lie their asses off and are currently involved in conflict on the border of Iran?

Nothing like seeing kids playing in bombed out cars that had been hit by our DU shells. Always nice to add a lil lukemia to a kid that has no clue what he or she may be playing in!

This type of (DU) shell has been used by both the American and British forces since the 1st Iraq conflict in the 90's. This is nothing new...it's just hypocritical.