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    For some reason I feel like I've posted about this before, but I did a search on all the threads I started, and I can't find it anywhere.

    I've got a friend/"friend" that I've known since high school. This kid is really really nerdy and doesn't fit in in very many social situations, but hanging out with him one on one or in a small group is always okay, he's a bright kid and we usually have interesting conversations. In the past (read: several years ago), it was fine, occasionally he'd call me up when he was bored, I'd go over there and play video games, we'd have a fine time, but he was very aware that he didn't really fit in so well with my friends, and since he had his own, he was never around at parties and stuff. He moved away for a couple years, and now he's back, but his friends aren't.

    The problem is, this kid now thinks we (and most of my other friends) are good friends, and we really aren't. I don't mind hanging out with just him, but at a party or a bar, the kid is just endlessly irritating. He really isn't capable of having a conversation that's more than one on one, and all of my other friends (especially my girlfriend) really can't stand the guy. So what he does to make up for his awkwardness is be really overbearing and loud with the two or three people that don't just completely blow him off (one of them being me). He's always putting his hand on my shoulder and talking really loudly in my face about the most party-inappropriate shit. The kid calls me all the time, also, and I'm pretty good at making up excuses, but I feel bad for just flat-out lying to him about what I'm doing.

    I've tried saying "hey dude, calm down, back off." I've gotten so frustrated that I ended up being pretty much openly mean to him when he's talking about stuff that's just totally inappropriate for a party (his insanely liberal views about immigration policy for instance) but he just doesn't get it. The signs are all there for him to notice, entire rooms clearing out the second he starts on a stupid rant about shit nobody cares about, people ignoring his calls for weeks at a time, etc, but he still doesn't get it. Anyone else had an experience like this? I want to sit him down and be like "look man, I've got some issues here" but I don't know what good that could do given that the signs are all there in the first place and he's still shown no initiative to try to fit in.

    edit: it's not that talking about politics is that inappropriate, but he's so black and white about it. you can't just assume a room full of people agrees with your pseudo-socialist bullshit, it's one thing to say your opinion, but at a party he'll be like "i just dont see how anyone can think ____" and it's just really not cool.
    Last edited by Facetious; 05-03-2007, 05:05 PM.
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  • #2
    Make fun of him frequently, talk about your newfound racial hatred for all minorities and religions, and write him long emails that are manifestos on fascism. He'll probably find new friends at that point.

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    • #3
      That wouldn't work, he would then think he had to re-convert me or something.
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      • #4
        Short of telling him not to be a fag I dunno what you're going to do. I've got friends like this and I just don't hang out with them with my other friends. I'll ignore their phone calls, lie, do whatever it takes but there are just some people that aren't meant to mix and I like to avoid the awkwardness of making it happen.

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        • #5
          The other issue is a lot of time my other friend that is in the same situation as me will cave and invite the guy. If it were just as issue of "if I didn't invite him, I'd never see him again" I'd probably just do that, but it sucks to ignore someone's phone calls and then get confronted on it.
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          • #6
            I think you're just going to have to hurt his feelings or else he'll never go away. That or get him hooked on WoW.
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            • #7
              Yeah, the best soultion is to talk to your friends and tell them not to cave, and then just slowly ignore him away. Short of that, hurting his feelings is the only other real way.
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              All space detectives come armed with tcp/ip persona blasting pistols, it's required for their line of duty. Silly of both maisoul and goddess to not know this before hand, they get what they deserved, fucking zapped, bitches.

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              • #8
                wow, makes me glad i don't have any friends anyway

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                • #9
                  I don't even know that it's possible to ignore him away, I've ignored his calls for 3 straight weeks and he still kept calling. Gah, I just really don't want to be the guy to tell him that everyone he knows doesn't like him. If I explain my situation to him he'll still call other people all the time unless I tell him that nobody likes him. The kid has a history of depression too (of course) so I don't want to trigger anything drastic (not that it would really be MY fault but I'd still like to avoid it).
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                  • #10
                    I've been in a similar situation like that before, but it was many years ago.

                    We all dodged the guy in some seriously mean and obvious ways, kept mocking him and just tried to get him to stop following us.

                    I was the guy who tried to be nice, and explain him everything, I think I did as well. I can't remember what happened next, but then he just stalked everyone more. He never stopped.

                    I kept trying to do what you've been doing so far, and it just made him leap on me more and more and less on the group as a whole.

                    Luckily, during all this, the guy changed from being just too weird, to becoming my best friend. I never got rid of him, even when I were _cruel_. It went on for years, and he became a cool guy surprisingly.

                    Moral of the story: Don't be the one who has the contact with him, mix in with the rest of the group that dodges him even more than you. It's either that or beat him up.

                    Going on like you're doing now gives him the feeling that you're accepting him more than the others, no matter what you're telling him. Which will bond him closer to you.
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                    • #11
                      SO Noah says Beat the guy up! Ill help!

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                      • #12
                        My brother had the exact same kind of friend. But instead of political stuff, he was just all-out hyper and crazy and whiny and annoying. Out of my brother's group of friends, my brother was the only one to be kind of nice. Everyone else hated him, teased him, basically was all out mean to him. He called incessantly and left my brother a million IM's telling him to talk to him and answer him. My dad got so mad at him constantly calling that he picked up the phone and yelled at him to stop calling and leave a message (he would hang up at the answering machine and then call again--we have caller id).

                        Anyways, my brother got so tired of it he completely ignored him. Never answered calls or IM's, didnt talk to him at school, never hung out with him. He told him flat out his behavior is annoying and he needs to calm down, but the guy never got it. He has even left me IM's asking where my brother is...

                        My brother joined the military and now lives in Alaska. That's how he got away from the guy. He also changed his AIM name and got a new phone number.

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                        • #13
                          well seeing as I doubt those are options for face, I think face should just break up with him.

                          Unless he's got that 'gonna come back and kill you all one day' vibe, then be the nice guy and stick it out.
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                          Originally posted by Richard Creager
                          All space detectives come armed with tcp/ip persona blasting pistols, it's required for their line of duty. Silly of both maisoul and goddess to not know this before hand, they get what they deserved, fucking zapped, bitches.

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                          • #14
                            ACTUALLY, a better idea is to hang out with him and reverse roles, you be annoying as shit face, do everything he hates and keep it up, and maybe HE'LL break up with you!
                            The only TWO TIME TWLJ All-Star and TWLB All-Star who never played a game.

                            Originally posted by Richard Creager
                            All space detectives come armed with tcp/ip persona blasting pistols, it's required for their line of duty. Silly of both maisoul and goddess to not know this before hand, they get what they deserved, fucking zapped, bitches.

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                            • #15
                              I don't think there'd be any way to annoy him really. This is an issue now because there's a party this weekend I've been looking forward to and my other friend invited this kid, and now I'm annoyed that I'm going to get followed around for a good portion of the party. I think literally everything he does that annoys me I'm going to say "would you not do that, it annoys me" and just give him the benefit of the doubt that maybe somehow, he still doesn't get it. Assuming he doesn't stop, the next time he calls me I'm going to be like "look, I can't have you around if you're going to keep doing this shit, you're way too loud and you don't respect my personal space, and I asked you to stop and you refused." Then I'll give him one trial run and if he can't stop being annoying I'm just going to not answer his calls ever again and completely blow him off, at least that way he'll know why I broke off contact. There are more annoying as shit nerdy kids that would like this guy, it's not like he's completely hopeless or anything. Or that's what I'll tell myself.
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