Samurai versus Knight

[Troll King]

The teppo was known to load faster than a crossbow. And there is a Finnish hockey player named after it.

[Emaho]

Samurai armors are fucking heavy. Don't misstake Samurais for Ninjas.
I'd say it's a question of personalit.

[PolluX]

what the fuck is this thread.

Bram would totally kill zounds of knights and samurai with one wiff of his breath. He is awesome, chuck-norrisish,....

:fear:

[Noah]

Bram would totally kill zounds of knights and samurai with one wiff of his breath. He is awesome, chuck-norrisish,....

:fear:

......Or just a really, really bad breath.

[Dabram]

i ate too much shoarma with garlic sauce last night.. now this morning my mouth tastes like i ate pure garlic cloves last night.. so you probably have a point, it doesn't smell too nicely right now...

plus i am a ninja :fear:

[Noah]

I fucking know, I can smell it all the way up to Norway, you cunt.

[PaulOakenfold]

The knight would just throw a bunch of water on the Samurai's armor, soaking and expanding the silk, making it twice as heavy as even the heaviest knight's armor he could possibly wear (which he wouldn't... he'd totally go for the full chain mail which can't exactly be penetrated by a sword thrust or two... let alone a fucking slash).

I don't think there'd be a need for a mace, and with a mace, I could imagine having one hell of a time trying to parry against any sort of weapon... in fact, what kind of war scenarios DID they use a mace for? Like TK said, knights have a wide variety of weaponry at their disposal, short, medium, two handed, disarming, a variety of shields, etc.

Hell, even the Samurai brought some other weapons along with him. He was trained first and foremost in the art of spear believe it or not, so his sword fighting, although vastly different from the Knights (not necessarily better... just more traditional and less modern) would lack a lot of training compared to his archery and spearmanship, and probably compared to that of the opposing knight.

[Noah]

In a group battle, the Knigts would dominate the Samurais.
(Why the hell are we typing them with a capital "K" and "S"?)

They could just sperm some on a tiny chick with no tits, throw her in the middle of the japanese freaks, and kill them unarmed while they bukkake her.

[Galleleo]

Isn't the Katana one of the best swords for slicing and dicing? If you use the right technique, push and pull, you can slice through a hell of a lot of stuff without much off a problem. Besides, aren't Samurai's supposed to be more versatile then knights? Combined with the bad sight of the knight (providing he wears the full outfit thus the helmet) and the rather slow movement of a knight in full armour. The Samurai should be able to get a knight, it's all highly subjective though, cause it depends so much on what you think they are using + wearing.

[Liquid Blue]

Isn't the Katana one of the best swords for slicing and dicing? If you use the right technique, push and pull, you can slice through a hell of a lot of stuff without much off a problem.

I don't know if they are the best, but they were designed to be a slicing weapon, yes. The smaller sword they carried with them (tanto I think?) was used more for piercing or thrusting. It wasn't a push and pull technique though.

Besides, aren't Samurai's supposed to be more versatile then knights?

Difference in weapon specialty. Samurai's were trained in the spear, bow and katana (importance in that order). Katanas weren't even used as much as you see in animes and shit like that until the Edo period, where there was alot less mounted combat- before then, mounted combat was the shit and so was the spear.

Knights trained in the lance, greatsword, sword and shield, and sometimes mace as well.

Combined with the bad sight of the knight (providing he wears the full outfit thus the helmet) and the rather slow movement of a knight in full armour. The Samurai should be able to get a knight, it's all highly subjective though, cause it depends so much on what you think they are using + wearing.

Katanas won't cut through other swords, and they chip and break quite easily. Plate armor was also a bitch to cut through as well, so they wouldn't be able to slice and dice their way through their opponents with supreme ease. Techniques were even developed to thrust at the joints in-between the armor, which is what the samurai would have to rely on if they got stuck in a sword fight- but again, the sword is made for slicing and not for thrusting, a spear would do them better.

Knightly blades could be excellent swords, but are often denigrated merely as crude hunks of iron while samurai swords are venerated and exalted sometimes to the point of absurdity by collectors and enthusiasts (something the Japanese themselves do not discourage). Bad films and poorly trained martial artists reinforce this myth. The bottom line is that Medieval swords were indeed well-made, light, agile fighting weapons equally capable of delivering dismembering cuts or cleaving deep into body cavities. They were far from the clumsy, heavy things they’re often portrayed as in popular media and far, far more than a mere "club with edges." Interestingly, the weight of katanas compared to longswords is very close with each on average being less than 4 pounds.

[Galleleo]

You use the Katana with a push and pull technique, you push with the hand closest to the blade and pull with the hand furthest when you are about to slice.

[LoGGi!]

Hmm,the knight's amor will be heavier than the samurais and what's worse it will be very stiff compared to the samurais armor, wich is rather heavy but not close to the knights and alot softer and easier to move around with. Then we have the swords, the knight's sword (boadswords/longswords progably) will be iron or steel and pretty heavy and the katana will be folded steel, ligther, ALOT sharper
and yet more endurable. I think that if the samurai spots the eak spots of the knight the linking of the plates he will win by damaging the knight little by little finally killing him, but the knight really only needs 1 or 2 full hits/blows t get the samurai out of balance or the armor broken, its pretty close I'd go with 55-45 chance for the samurai.

[Scoop]

Hmm,the knight's amor will be heavier than the samurais and what's worse it will be very stiff compared to the samurais armor, wich is rather heavy but not close to the knights and alot softer and easier to move around with. Then we have the swords, the knight's sword (boadswords/longswords progably) will be iron or steel and pretty heavy and the katana will be folded steel, ligther, ALOT sharper
and yet more endurable. I think that if the samurai spots the eak spots of the knight the linking of the plates he will win by damaging the knight little by little finally killing him, but the knight really only needs 1 or 2 full hits/blows t get the samurai out of balance or the armor broken, its pretty close I'd go with 55-45 chance for the samurai.

Did you not read what liquid blue just posted? The knights gonna pwn the samurai

[K2Grey]

The knight has the advantage, I think. I don't think samurai typically have huge experience dealing with the sword and shield combo and the katana with its draw cuts and so on isn't really the best way to deal with plate mail. It's more of a slashing weapon than a thrusting one and you're not going to slash through plate mail. Now, plate mail slows anyone down but the weight is pretty well distributed so there's reason to expect the knight can move around at a pretty good pace.

The bow doesn't really fit into a duel situation and I don't know how well the spear holds up but I'm guessing it doesn't do all that great either. There is, after all, a reason why the mace and so on got popular.

[PaulOakenfold]

Samurai don't even have as much experience with sword to sword as the typical knight did. Their weapon of choice was a lance-like weapon. They'd also see the shield and not know what-the-fuck.