spider is sad/people bash ward/galleleo says something random as shit: the thread

[Galleleo]

Sorry Galleleo, I meant to reply to this last night but I was tired after that last thesis of a post.

I wouldn't know about the difference in difficulty between North American and European schools. I do know that most of the students in my program who were not from Canada did not graduate, but I've also heard that schools in Europe are generally more difficult. I'm sure it depends on what school you use as an example. I do know that there is a massive difference in the level of difficulty between programs and between the same program at different schools in Canada. A 3 year bachelors degree is pathetically easy to obtain compared with a 4 year honours bachelor degree becuase honours students (honour just means its a 4 year degree) take harder versions of each course and have to maintain a higher average. A 70% average doesn't sound like much of an accomplishment, but for some programs/schools it can be. In my program (I hate having to use my program as an example all the time but it's what I know) we started with close to 400 students in first year and with 70% being the required average, we had around 60 for graduation. Of those 60, I believe 12 graduated with distinction which required an average over 80%. So roughly 12 out of 400 students were able to maintain an 80% average over 4 years....

I agree with you 100%. I always did the bare minimum in school because I never believed that getting amazing grades would guarantee me anything. They definitely help, especially if you can get scholarships, but they do not determine the course of your career. A good education will help someone find a good first job, but after that it's all about ability and work ethic.

Oh and as for your other post, $60,000 would be the price for some Canadian MBA's. In America the cost can be over $200,000 at some schools.

Well, in the Netherlands its way different than in at least America. Seeing as our Uni's are still highly regulated by the government. The tuition fee is a set amount for each university (I know of 2 privately owned universities (I dont think they can even call themselves universities just higher education or something). And right now I pay 1600 Euro a year for tuition fee. Which is the same for Bachelor or Master. So the whole scholarship thing doesn't play to much of a role over here as almost everyone who wants to can go study and there are financial aid programs etc. So that in total makes the need to get the highest grades possible a lot less.

They are only really needed when you want to do an education like med school, cause those have limits on the number of students. But for the rest, you can apply to any uni and you are in if you have the right diploma from high school, unless the study you choose has a limited amount of spots (which is mostly med school, dentist stuff, etc.). There is a variation among universities in how well their programs are regarded. But overall the toughness of courses is pretty even. It also depends on what course your uni wants to go. My university for instance has chosen to also put a lot of emphasis on the research part, methodology, doing research etc. While other Universities choose to put more significance on the practical aspect.

But from what I understand from my orientation to study in America for a semester, generally the courses are easier than what I am used to, also because we tend to have a far more in depended approach, much more independence and responsibility is put on the student to follow classes, prepare them, study, etc. I was advised (I will be in my third year when (and if) I go and actually be writing my bachelor thesis while in America) to choose at least 300, but preferably 400 courses cause those would be closest to what I am used to in how hard they are. I don't know myself obviously until I actually (if, I am not the only one who wants too) get to go and experience it, but that is what I understand from people who have been there.

[MirrorriM]

Where are you guys thinking of studying in America?

[Cops]

I agree that obtaining average grads (even from a distinguished program) doesn't seem like something to boast about, but the accomplishments of most people under the age of 22 is pretty limited. I don't think you understand how the post secondary education system works for these kinds of programs. Generally, they accept 10-20% of high school applicants and promptly fail 1/3 of them in first year. Add another 1/4 in second year and maybe half of the original total get their degree. This is not bragging but in my program the graduation rate of first year students was around 15%. MBA programs, on the other hand, have an extremely high graduation rate. Why?

Clearly I haven't noticed that my classes once held 30-40 kids and now we're lucky if 10 show. If Ward makes it through his program without holding a C+ then I will personally congratulate him for accomplishing something but right now he's done nothing worth bragging about. I'm also oblivious that University's rate of drop out for first year is fucking huge.

[Cops]

I agree with you 100%. I always did the bare minimum in school because I never believed that getting amazing grades would guarentee me anything. They definitely help, especially if you can get scholarships, but they do not determine the course of your career. A good education will help someone find a good first job, but after that it's all about ability and work ethic.

Oh and as for your other post, $60,000 would be the price for some Canadian MBA's. In America the cost can be over $200,000 at some schools.

I'm the exact same way, I had 50-60's for 3 years in high school then I tried in my final year and did really well, I was rewarded by 4-5 scholarships that have made my life slightly easier and less worrisome (fucking osap). I only rag on Wark cause he asks for it, I'll cut him up every time he tries to open his mouth about his so called superiority. I'm not an elitist or believe that unless you get good grades you suck at life or school, I pretty much want to master my craft and be happy with what I do even if that means I graduate with 70's-80's or doubtfully 90's.

[Ward]

I'll cut him up every time he tries to open his mouth about his so called superiority.

Kid, all I did was give my opinion of Spider's letter. If cutting me up means whining about how heartless and insensitive I am to women and forum users, then be it. Of course I'm superior to you and 98% of the users on these forums irl, it's no secret. You've nothing on me. Most you can do is discuss me over the internet, which I'm ok with. So keep talking about my personality and education, make yourself look like a fool.

[Nickname]

don't fuck with me nick.

I wouldn't fuck with you... Fucking with you would be telling you that Liquid Blue knows it... see, that would be fucking with you.

[Exalt]

this thread is popular mainly because lots of people on here have experienced in one way or another the same case that spider has

i dated a girl for around 2 years myself, i joined the navy we broke it off, then we got back together int he navy and it was better than it ever was before

i used to fly and/or drive home from connecticut to chicago all the time to see her, we both said we were in love and even planned marriage and all that, i didnt officially ask it but she has told me she used to leave my house saying i was the guy she was going to marry

still as time passed shit happened, she got lonely i got lonely we started fighting, on top of that her stupid fat guy friend kept puting shit in her head cuz hes a loser and cant get a girl, and since he was her friend she listened to him, even though he only said that shit because he wants pussy, its how guys work, fuck that fat kid

in anycase, im out the military now, and i DID date other girls after we broke up, but i figured when I was finally home me and her would get back together...

as it goes now we are friends but not close, not good friends, more like we call or text each other a lot and basicly try to piss the other person off as much as possible by pushing every button imaginable... she would tell me she cares one day, then call the next and be like "we arnt getting back together, I stopped caring" but then calls me to hang out with her to watch a movie or something, which ill do but then she wont talk to me, just fucking becomes a bitch and its not like I can kiss her to make it better, she wouldnt let me int he first place... then she will ask me who was the best at sex and I would say this other girl I fucked a few months ago to piss her off and she would say "I hate you, dont talk to me ever again" type thing, basicly i would apologize and tell her i was just saying it to piss her off, which basicly i was, but she would keep the grudge going but if she said somethign fucked up to me she would expect me not to keep the grudge.. basicly if i kiss her ass she will walk on me, but if i treat her like she wants to treat me she hates me for it

so i know she isnt having sex with other dudes, and she hasnt dated anyone yet, its only been maybe 3 months but i know shes not fucking anyone, i KNOW that part, basicly cuz her best friend i talk to everyday, and she tells me everything thats going on

in anycase, this girl wants to be friends, I just want to move on or stay together, but i hate the friendship part, I want either all or nothing... i dont want to know if some other dude fucks my ex g/f of 2 years, I dont want to think about it honestly, if we cant be together why does she want to be friends? it just hurts more that way anyway

so she has admitted she still cares, but not enough to get back together because we faught alot, well we faught cuz i was fucking 1000 miles away for a year of the relationship, I never cheated on her and I know she never did either, so we are in good standing at that point

basicly yeah i still love the girl, but shes playing games with me and it pisses me off, and i still dont know what to do about it... ive tried telling her dotn talk to me again, so naturally she will text or call me a week later like nothing happened... she keeps in touch but says she doesnt want a boyfriend right now... its fucking with my head, but now i feel guilty if i go and fuck some other girl and i hate that... i wish i didnt still love her so that i could go off and get a girl that treats me better, but i still feel guilty, even when im off hanging out with some other girl i feel guilty, and i feel unattracted to those girls that are normally hot, because i still care about my ex

still dont know what to do, the bitch is smart, got my head all fucked up and still thinking about her, i hate girls for knowing how to play games better than me, its a no win situation for me, if i play the games and try to do better ill still lose, she might feel bad but ill feed bad too, or if i dont play the games ill still miss her cuz i love her and we wont be talking anymore at that point

i think its all a lost cause but this girl has me all messed up in the head with her crazy games, i hate her for that, but i also still love her for the girl she used to be, and for a great relationship we had for a long time, god i hate being fucking confused about girls


this is why you never ever fall in love with anyone, its a big drama mess at the end, it never stays perfect even if you think it will when it happens, because you will think it was stay perfect, but no it wont, ever

[Ward]

Dude I don't know HOW you fell in love with her enough to let her treat you like this.. wow that is fucked up I'm telling you. You should in no way let a bitch be in control. Either settle the everything or nothing question or move on. If she's just going to suppress you with by mind games, you'll be nothing but her puppet. I know it will probably be hard for you to get over, but hang out with your friends and other girls as much as possible and don't think about her, that will help you.

[Spider]

I think you'd be better off without her, obviously. Lets be single together. You're right about my thread though, I think most of us have been in this situation. Which is, well, lets face it, pretty common.

I just can't wait until I'm a single guy. Right now I'm a guy who broke up with his girlfriend. You know what I mean? I wonder how long that transition takes... When people stop saying "wow, broke up huh? Tough break" and just start thinking "oh, there is my buddy %tickname who hasn't gotten any pussy in a few months. Poor bastard."

[genocidal]

I think you'd be better off without her, obviously. Lets be single together. You're right about my thread though, I think most of us have been in this situation. Which is, well, lets face it, pretty common.

I just can't wait until I'm a single guy. Right now I'm a guy who broke up with his girlfriend. You know what I mean? I wonder how long that transition takes... When people stop saying "wow, broke up huh? Tough break" and just start thinking "oh, there is my buddy %tickname who hasn't gotten any pussy in a few months. Poor bastard."

That's why you have to do something about it. Number 1 thing about dating a girl is the free pussy. You probably aren't even used to working for it. Unfortunately, now you do have to work for it. Fortunately, it isn't very hard at all - just takes balls more than anything.

[Jeenyuss]

I wouldn't fuck with you... Fucking with you would be telling you that Liquid Blue knows it... see, that would be fucking with you.

i can't take back the things i told you nor the things i've done to try to get that story out of you (they're unspeakable, but i might remind you if you tell me your story). so let's cut the crap and get on with the story.

[Eric is God]

i can't take back the things i told you nor the things i've done to try to get that story out of you (they're unspeakable, but i might remind you if you tell me your story). so let's cut the crap and get on with the story.

No one in this entire game, in this entire world, has a real life story that's interesting enough to bug someone this much. The only story that comes close is Forest Gump and that shit was made up

[Epinephrine]

But from what I understand from my orientation to study in America for a semester, generally the courses are easier than what I am used to, also because we tend to have a far more in depended approach, much more independence and responsibility is put on the student to follow classes, prepare them, study, etc. I was advised (I will be in my third year when (and if) I go and actually be writing my bachelor thesis while in America) to choose at least 300, but preferably 400 courses cause those would be closest to what I am used to in how hard they are. I don't know myself obviously until I actually (if, I am not the only one who wants too) get to go and experience it, but that is what I understand from people who have been there.

There's huge variations between different schools and different programs. I gather if you took engineering at MIT you'd be wishing you were back in the Netherlands. If you're taking business in some random state school, it will probably be a piece of cake.

[Jeenyuss]

No one in this entire game, in this entire world, has a real life story that's interesting enough to bug someone this much. The only story that comes close is Forest Gump and that shit was made up

it's the fuckin' principle.

[Exalt]

I think you'd be better off without her, obviously. Lets be single together. You're right about my thread though, I think most of us have been in this situation. Which is, well, lets face it, pretty common.

I just can't wait until I'm a single guy. Right now I'm a guy who broke up with his girlfriend. You know what I mean? I wonder how long that transition takes... When people stop saying "wow, broke up huh? Tough break" and just start thinking "oh, there is my buddy %tickname who hasn't gotten any pussy in a few months. Poor bastard."

yo man i feel you, i hung out with this chick at the bar tonight, she basicly called me and asked where i was at, so she came and bought me a bunch of drinks and we talked for a long time, bro it gets better im still not over the other girl but I know its not gonna work out, my ex is a bitch now, she changed from the girl she was, and I accept that, i just need to get in another meaningful relationship to get over her... the problem is you cant fuck other girls in one night stands and think thats the solution, its not... you need to get over that girl yourself, no one else can help you with it, its all you, either you do it or you will always be in misery about it, get over her, find someone else but you WONT find another girl until you get over your ex, its that simple