The "Bubs" of politics

[HateTheFake]

Well royce,
Im pro-life about as pro as they come. I dont believe in any form of killing with human life. By allowing abortion your giving kids the option to have sex without consequence. Its true that kids need to be educated, but its deeper then that, how many of us have been educated and still have sex protected/unprotected. Does anyone really have the right to take a life. And royce im not saying for the girl to "ruin" her life. There are plenty of couples looking for kids, and she can equally give it up for adoption. When a girl has an abortion it also adds to her health risk. Like increasing the likely hood of breast cancer (due to the milk left in the breast)

The people below have all been adopted, and no life ruined. These people have contributed alot to society
Adopted Persons.


Andy Berlin - entrepreneur: chairman of Berlin Cameron & Partners
Anthony Williams - politician
Aristotle - philosopher
Art Linkletter - comedian
Bo Diddley - musician, performer
Buffy Sainte-Marie - musician, actress
Carl-Theodor Dreyer - Danish film director
Charlotte Anne Lopez - Miss Teen USA
Christina Crawford - author
Clarissa Pinkola Estes - author
Crazy Horse - Lakota war chief
Dan O'Brien - decathlete
Daunte Culpepper - football player
Dave Thomas - entrepreneur: founder of Wendy's
Debbie Harry - singer
D.M.C. - hip hop artist
Edgar Allan Poe - poet, writer
Edward Albee - playwright
Eleanor Roosevelt - First Lady
Eric Dickerson - athlete
Faith Daniels - news anchor
Faith Hill - country singer
Freddie Bartholomew - actor
George Washington Carver - inventor
Greg Louganis - athlete
James MacArthur - actor
James Michener - author
Jean Jacques Rousseau - philosopher
Jesse Jackson - minister
Jesus - adopted by Joseph the carpenter (Bible)
Jett Williams - country singer and author
Jim Palmer - athlete
John J. Audubon - naturalist
John Hancock - politician
John Lennon - musician
Langston Hughes - poet and writer
Larry Ellison - entrepreneur: chief executive of Oracle
Lee Majors - actor
Leo Tolstoy - writer
Les Brown - motivational speaker
Lynnette Cole - Miss USA 2000
Malcolm X - civil rights leader
Mark Acre - athlete
Matthew Laborteaux - actor
Melissa Gilbert - actress
Michael Reagan - author, talk show host
Moses - Biblical leader
Nancy Reagan - First Lady
Nat King Cole - singer
Nelson Mandela - politician
Patrick Labyorteaux - actor
Peter and Kitty Carruthers - figure skaters
President Gerald Ford - politician
President William Clinton - politician
Priscilla Presley - actress
Ray Liotta - actor
Reno - performance artist, comedian
Sarah McLachlan - singer
Scott Hamilton - figure skater
Sen. Paull H. Shin - politician
Sen. Robert Byrd - politician
Steve Jobs - entrepreneur: co-founder of Apple computer
Surya Bonaly - figure skater
Tim Green - football player/commentator
Tim McGraw - country singer
Tom Monaghan - entrepreneur
Tommy Davidson - comedian
Victoria Rowell - actress
Wilson Riles - educator

[ConcreteSchlyrd]

By allowing abortion your giving kids the option to have sex without consequence.

That opinion is short-sighted. Without consequence? I'd consider going through an abortion a pretty large consequence, both physically and mentally. The thing I dislike most about pro-lifers is that they completely jump past the idea that people can make adult decisions for themselves.

Its true that kids need to be educated, but its deeper then that, how many of us have been educated and still have sex protected/unprotected.

That's called "personal choice" or "free will." I can also choose to eat three Big Macs for lunch every day for the rest of my life. Is that the healthiest decision? No, but it's my choice to do so.

Does anyone really have the right to take a life. And royce im not saying for the girl to "ruin" her life. There are plenty of couples looking for kids, and she can equally give it up for adoption. When a girl has an abortion it also adds to her health risk.

What about girls who have been raped? If you're impregnated by a rapist, is that a good idea to carry it to term? What if the rapist is a family member? Is that healthy? What if carrying the child to term means the possibility of killing the mother during childbirth? Are you gonna stick to your guns here too?

Issuing a blanket "you can't have an abortion because I think it's the wrong thing for you to do"-statement is ridiculous. Give people a little more credit.

I'm sure that there have been a lot of people who have been adopted that have went on to do great things. There have also been a lot of people who were adopted that went on to become criminals, I'm sure. Picking a random sampling isn't anything more than just that... random.

EDIT: Haha.. "Jesus."

[genocidal]

What my life has been missing lately:

A shitty abortion discussion.

[Kolar]

Well royce,
By allowing abortion your giving kids the option to have sex without consequence.

Don't you mean by allowing condom use? Since you seem to be big on the "numbers" game here, how many parts of the world have been devastated by HIV/AIDs and other sexually transmitted diseases because you want them to face the "consequences"? The decision to carry to term or terminate is a life changing, physically and emotionally scaring event. adoption is great but think about the emotional damage of having a child then giving it up to another family, think about all those families who can't bare to do that and end up not having the resources to support their child much less themselves.

I don't think these people need a finger wagged in their face from some social conservative, whether it be you, a private citizen or some politician.


The issues boils down to this: does an embryo constitute a human life? The scientific consensus is no therefore the privacy, health and free will of the living person takes precedence.

[Noah]

I'm against abortions, but pro killing babies.
©Maddox.

[PH]

These people have contributed alot to society

Jean Jacques Rousseau - philosopher

french philosophy?

[Epinephrine]

A shitty abortion discussion.

And to think, until I saw the very last line in the first post, I honestly thought it was a thread in support of Obama.

[HateTheFake]

What about girls who have been raped? If you're impregnated by a rapist, is that a good idea to carry it to term? What if the rapist is a family member? Is that healthy? What if carrying the child to term means the possibility of killing the mother during childbirth? Are you gonna stick to your guns here too?

So basically if someones raped the best awnser is to kill an innocent life form. Thats a horrible idea. Its like washing bleach out of your eyes with more bleach.

Do you consider something with a beating heart a living creature? A babies heart forms and starts beating in the fifth week of pregnancy, therefor, that would make abortion murder. The baby that is growing inside of you is depending on you, so when you make the choice to end that life, you are making the choice to murder another person.

[Kolar]

When a girl has an abortion it also adds to her health risk. Like increasing the likely hood of breast cancer (due to the milk left in the breast)

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/facts.../en/index.html

[Epinephrine]

Do you consider something with a beating heart a living creature? A babies heart forms and starts beating in the fifth week of pregnancy, therefor, that would make abortion murder. The baby that is growing inside of you is depending on you, so when you make the choice to end that life, you are making the choice to murder another person.

It's alive, but it's not a person. Oh no, I didn't just go there did I?

[royCE]

im not an expert on abortions but...if what you say is true, that the 5th week develops a heart, is it ok to do an abortion before that?

your topic on "plenty of parents would love to adopt"
aaah...last time i checked, people are begging for the current kids to be adopted...they even give benefits for parents who adopt...

and you want more of em? trust me, there are plenty

and if your pro life, whole christian thing...If lord give, lord take it away...i think thats the american saying...

in this case, women, being god who created life, should have the right to take it away...yes it sounds harsh, but truth is, baby isnt alive till fully developed...so killing the egg is same as me jerkin off and cumming....i just killed milions of lil sperms who are potential babies...

to think....the sperm IS the baby....egg is just the right home...
so no more jerkin off for pro-lifers...

[Jerome Scuggs]

if youre against abortion ... dont have one

ez as that

[Zerzera]

I agree with NoLimit, I think we should sterilize everyone with an IQ under 110.

Shit, it keeps shifting up!


I am against abortion, when I was 15 my best friend had an abortion, I think she took it all pretty lightly too. It might be hard to raise a kid when you are 15, but I think it's out of your hands the moment you screw up.
But I see I can't hold everyone against my own standards, and I think you can't play the religion card when legislating abortion. It's up to God to judge, at least the baby gets a free pass to heaven.

(If you are stupid enough to believe in souls)

[DankNuggets]

ROfl at the attempted obama dis, you've made him look like the most sensible candidate ez. As for morals, they're completely dependent upon the person (def. of morals) and if he sticks to his beliefs, than he has morals (whether or not they are "good" compared to yours).

I'd quit the whole Pro-life stance and pick up a Pro-homo sapiens stance. If you had a 2 month old tapeworm growing inside you, I'm sure you'd want to kill it. Not comparing a baby to a tapeworm, just one underdeveloped form of life for another.

I love how you have Edgar Allen Poe in there, didn't he become a huge alcoholic and die lying in a gutter in Baltimore?

What if your kid is the anti-christ? as an evangelical, you should try to nip that one in the bud

If someone is pregnant and is killed, its up to a jury to decide if its a double murder, although i'd bet it almost always is.

If a mother is unhealthy (smokes crack) and has a miscarrage, it can be called murder, and i can see how this seems hypocritical.

I for one am glad that I'm a man, and although i might face a tough decision with a girlfriend or whomever, it'll still be up to them to make it, not me.

[404 Not Found]

If the peoples of this world that speak out as Pro-Lifers would have the same feelings towards the world in general, specifically the environment, maybe the world would be a better place.

Let's protect life, as long as it's only human life and unborn. Once they are 18 we can ship them to war to die for an Idiot politician who would care less about global warming and they can bomb innocent women and children in foreign lands, kill species of all sorts vanishing forever on a daily basis for oil exploration and the create a lack of fresh water, clean air and a supply of food and medicine for the worlds peoples. We can't have that though.

The world is on a express route for destruction & this seems to hold less importance to many over an abortion issue. When we have no means of supporting life on this planet, then what?

BTW NLS... Tim McGraw was born and raised by his biolgical mother. Perhaps you know or heard of Tug McGraw? NYM and Philles Releif Pitcher? His actual father. He was not adopted! he was rasied by his biolgical mother and stepfather. Tug didn't even know about Tim it seems until his mom finally came clean and told him about his real father Tug McGraw. He was not adopted in a sense of having no maternal mother and father. Not that it matters.