What pisses me off.

[Troll King]

That's more of a reason to make alcohol illegal in addition to, but not necessarily instead of, marijuana.

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

To those in favor of making alcohol illegal,

Go fuck yourselves.

Love,
Gary Coleman

[Dameon Angell]

you know why the govt. is banning marajuana?

cigarettes. the tobacco companies are funding the government with millions of dollars in the form of taxes. cigarette companies do not want to compete with marajuana, it will lose. it will be like, Brock Lesnar vs Funaki. Total pwnage.

[SLaQ n Sauce]

Sweet! I just found some roaches. Better lock up your daughters and strap on some kevlar cuz im about to be one MAAAAAD motherfucker!

[Material Girl]

tralala

Originally posted by Troll King
That's more of a reason to make alcohol illegal in addition to, but not necessarily instead of, marijuana.

MMmm chyaa, because any nation under the influence of a mind altering substance is bound to turn into a flock of sheep sooner or later... to turn (a blind eye) from reality... Speaking of, you'll be disturbed to know that Steven Harper (" leader of the official opposition party ") is on every American news channel now plugging the war 1n Iraq ... sure leaves no doubt in my mind how they can hate us so.

[Noah]

Originally posted by Dameon Angell
you know why the govt. is banning marajuana?

cigarettes. the tobacco companies are funding the government with millions of dollars in the form of taxes. cigarette companies do not want to compete with marajuana, it will lose. it will be like, Brock Lesnar vs Funaki. Total pwnage.

Not only that but the choppers they use to find plantations is sponsered by Budweiser. The alcohol would have to share their (legal) monopoly on the drugmarket, and that would provide huge sums of lost profits.

To add further more to what you said I can say that the oil industry in the 1920s that paid/convinced the government to ban cannabis (Yes, cannabis can be used as oil, Cannabis Sativa it's latin and means usefull because it's one of the most versetaile plants in the world).

I don't really bother writing one of my 500 word posts about legalizing, I've already done a few.

I'll just answer whatever I feel like is worth a reply, basically every industry that felt threatened moved to get it criminalized, this includes tobacco, alcohol, oil, paper and cotton industries/importers.

In the south USA back in slavery days they criminalized it to break down the spritit of the slaves. They kept renewing their spirit by using cannabis, and the slavemasters wanted them as low as possible.

In short: Cannabis is banned over racistical reasons and capitalistical reasons.

[Ender]

Originally posted by dimboy2
Consequences like getting caught, going to jail for 6 months,

Those aren't consequences, those are structured punishments and fears created by the system.

The greater irony in all of this is that, its usually the required 'sneakiness' that attracts the young crowd to smoking pot, and because they're working on trial and error, without their parents or anyone older at least saying "Dont smoke this, this is nutmeg and lawngrass." they can hurt themselves or put themselves in a situation where they can be hurt.

I'd rather my kids smoked pot at home than on the street where they could be picked up by the cops.

It shouldn't be this way, but the pot culture has evolved into a very shady under-belly of society type culture.
Take care of yourself, retain trust. Think common sense; some little gangstar wannabe is more likely to run off with your $40 than he is to come back with 'the stuff'.

[Ender]

Originally posted by sTuPiD-gErBiL
go try smoking some salvia divinorum. it's legal

Or kava.

But DONT put the flame right on the kava [if its in powder format] think grade nine science; any material ground into fines (dust) will go poof if put to flame too readily.

Another tip, dont use Vodka [or other liquor] in a bong, alchohol has the un-savoury side effect of being flamable.

Laugh it up.

[Noah]

Originally posted by Ender
Another tip, dont use Vodka [or other liquor] in a bong, alchohol has the un-savoury side effect of being flamable.
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I wouldn't use it because it will burn away lots of THC. Alcohol kills it

[WorstPlayerEver]

For those who care to read it, there is the history. I only took a small exerpt from the website. Before anyone says it.. I have no ambition to be "cool" hehe.. just setting out some facts for the little discussion.

http://www.tlmp.org/history_of_marijuana.html

The year the federal government outlawed cannabis.

-- DuPont patents petrochemical manufacturing processes for making plastics, as well as pollution-heavy sulfate/sulfite processes for producing wood pulp. For the next 50 years, these processes are responsible for 80% of DuPont's industrial output.

--In its 1937 Annual Report, DuPont informs stockholders that the company anticipates "radical changes" from "the revenue raising power of government... converted into an instrument for forcing acceptance of sudden new ideas of industrial and social reorganization."

March 29, 1937: The U.S. Supreme Court unanimously upholds the National Firearms Act.

April 14, 1937: The Treasury Department secretly introduces its "marihuana tax bill" through the House Ways and Means Committee, bypassing more appropriate venues. Committee chairman Robert L. Doughton, a key Congressional ally of DuPont, rubber-stamps the bill.

Spring 1937: Congress holds hearings on the Marijuana Tax Act. Dr. James Woodward, representing the American Medical Association, testifies that the law could deny the world a potential medicine. Cannabis was already prescribed for dozens of common ailments, and medical researchers were just beginning to explore the therapeutic benefits of the numerous active ingredients in marijuana. Woodward said that AMA doctors were wholly unaware that the "killer weed from Mexico" was actually cannabis. "We cannot understand yet, Mr. Chairman, why this bill should have been prepared in secret for two years without any intimation, even to the profession, that it was being prepared," Woodward testifies. FBN commissioner Harry Anslinger and the Ways and Means Committee quickly denounce Woodward and the AMA, which already had an adversarial relationship with the Roosevelt administration.

December 1937: The Marijuana Tax Act is signed into law, initiating 60 years of cannabis prohibition and annihilating a multi-billion dollar industry. DuPont and other synthetic materials manufacturers reap vast profits by filling the void conveniently left by the criminalization of industrial hemp.

1937 - 1939: Under Harry Anslinger, the Federal Bureau of Narcotics prosecutes 3,000 doctors for "illegally" prescribing cannabis-derived medications. In 1939, the American Medical Association reached an agreement with Anslinger, and over the following decade, only three doctors are prosecuted.

February 1938: Popular Mechanics describes hemp as the "new billion dollar crop." The article was actually written in the spring of 1937, before cannabis was criminalized. Also in February 1938, Mechanical Engineering calls hemp "the most profitable and desirable crop that can be grown."

[Facetious]

The point is, pot is funamentally harmless. I've never seen anything bad happen as a result of pot, nevermind anything as bad as what happens in those commercials. I've NEVER seen a girl get more promiscuous as a result of pot, ever. It makes you lazy. That's about the worst consequence. I think the best reason for legalization is that they can't come up with a good reason to keep it illegal. Look at how much money they waste on law enforcement to keep a harmless drug off the streets. It's ridiculous.

[Fit of Rage]

Conversely, the majority of it are lazy bastards already, and don't need pot to help us along in our slothiness. Essentially what you're saying is that pot is harmless, and there's no reason to spend money to keep it illegal. However, by buying it, you spend money yourself. I know you've said in the past that pot isn't addictive, and having not tried it I couldn't say myself, however, going to school with a shitload of pot-heads myself, I do know that once you start it, you're probably not going to stop, save the event of a critical life-altering situation. So thus, more money is spent, and you in turn have less money to spend on more important things, like college. The question to ask is, would you rather get high, which lasts up to a couple hours, or rather get an education, which will last a lifetime.

I'm not screaming "KEEP POT BANNED, ITS BAD SHIT!" or anything, use it as you please. I just don't think it's the smartest decision you can make.

Originally posted by Blast
i never said pot made you smarter

[sTuPiD-gErBiL]

Originally posted by Shear
some stuff that didn't make any sense

if you don't spend money on pot, you'll spend it on alcohol, or video games, or movies, or food, or other forms of recreation. will that prevent you from going to college or affording a car? maybe.. but that depends on how stupid you are at handling money.

and to answer your other question: pot's not physically addictive, but any habit you create CAN be psychologically addictive.

[Bioture]

Originally posted by dimboy2
I admit marujana isn't very dangerous and the government are dumbasses, but its still a drug and has consequences.

(Warks a druggy)

I agree. Stay drug free. Kiddies.

Hay bay clay day say.

[Noah]

Dimboy you are yet to make a valid argument instead of just blurping up a sentence cops/parents/tearchers told you.

Shear:
The price of pot would fall dramatically if it were to be legalized. Imagine how much money the drug buisniss has to spend to keep it safe, and avoiding the law. If you check out pot prices in areas like Christiania and Amsterdam, you'll see that it doesn't cost much to have a regular consumption of pot. Either way, you can use the very same argument as you used against alcohol. Ppl I know spend 40-50$ per weekend on getting drunk and going out. Nothing is so safe that it can't be abused, so if you know some ppl thats high all the time and got not money 4 further education you can blame them as individs.

Edit: I know plenty of ppl that mangies to toke while they are doing their higher educations. There are activities called jobs that allows you to spend more on whatever you want.