telecom immunity

[Summa]

http://utdocuments.blogspot.com/2008/06/statement-of-barack-obama-supporting.html

you decide for yourself, but to me it sounds like he doesn't like it and backs the filibuster, but hes too big of a pansy to vote against it if it comes up to vote for.....like i said you decide....there is also this statement


Obama will back a filibuster of any Senate FISA legislation containing telecom immunity, his campaign has just told Election Central. The Obama campaign has just sent over the following statement from spokesman Bill Burton:

“To be clear: Barack will support a filibuster of any bill that includes retroactive immunity for telecommunications companies.”

[Squeezer]

don't diss him, he tried to filibuster the telecom shit. that's what I was referring to. CT politics are absolute garbage. Plus the stuff your citing makes absolutely no sense to me. further, he was in favor of a full war pull out.

Yeah, the links are a little unclear if you don't have background on what's going on.

Dodd submitted a 600+ page document proposing his (and two other senator's) ideas on how to fix the housing crisis. Tacked on to this rather large bill is an amendment to allow the govt. to view and tax internet companies on ALL transactions filed. Basically it means paying taxes on anything purchased online (via Amazon, ebay, paypal etc.) and eliminates the idea of free trade on the internet by taxing credit card companies for using said services. It's going to force prices up and unnecessary costs on goods sold online through the US. The consumer will ultimately pay the price.

No one owns the internet so how can they tax it?

And furthermore, drawing funds from the intertubes to cover the obviously flawed and failing mortgage system is putting a band aid on the wound. This is a lazy suggestion and one that would allow the govt. to monitor purchases to an even fuller extent. Remember just a few years ago when the Democrats were crying about the Patriot Act? That's why Mr. Dodd can fuck off.

I'm sure he's a good guy, but I really disagree with this piece of legislation.

edit: Read up on the guy a bit more. Sounds like he's going to be the one to start the filibuster on the FISA legislation. Doesn't change his attack on net neutrality, but he's definitely not one of the worst.

[DoTheFandango]

fuck him and fuck this congress.

hooray! Thanks to your Connecticut homeboy the govt. is one step closer to viewing our every interaction.

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571

this one's better:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm1941.cfm

don't diss him, he tried to filibuster the telecom shit. that's what I was referring to. CT politics are absolute garbage. Plus the stuff your citing makes absolutely no sense to me. further, he was in favor of a full war pull out.

[Kolar]

The only reason they're so low Izor is because they've taken it up the ass for the last 7 years. In politics you take the good with the bad, it's easy for a politician to support one good measure and just as easy for another to attach a terrible one to it. The system at its core is broken but there's a lot of trouble when the Dems openly concede on an issue such as civil liberties when they arguably won the House and Senate with their commitment to clean up the system and bring in a stronger moral and ethical standard than that of the party of Government.

[Squeezer]

chris dodd, where are you?

fuck him and fuck this congress.

hooray! Thanks to your Connecticut homeboy the govt. is one step closer to viewing our every interaction.

http://www.freedomworks.org/newsroom/press_template.php?press_id=2571

this one's better:

http://www.heritage.org/Research/Economy/wm1941.cfm

[DoTheFandango]

chris dodd, where are you?

[Izor]

oh for christ sake shut the fuck up. The only reason ratings are so low is because everyone whines about stupid shit. Everyone like the people on these forums has their own ideal view on how shit should be run and they dont settle for anything less. No one is going to please you people. Even should a dem be elected, hes going to change shit to his liking, which is much closer to your liking, and youll still whine and bitch about it.

[Kolar]

Awesome:

The compromise bill would have a federal district court review certifications from the attorney general saying the telecommunications companies received presidential orders telling them wiretaps were needed to detect or prevent a terrorist attack. If the paperwork is in order, the judge would dismiss the lawsuit.

At least Leahy opposes it, not all the Dems are folding. They do have weak majorities in the house and senate so it's not entirely their fault. It does expire in 2012 so if they push this one through it won't be forever. McCain and Obama both need to give their opinions on the new FISA bill.

Edit: The Congressional approval ratings are even lower then Bush's. They seriously need to rethink this shit.

[Jerome Scuggs]

well civil liberties, it was nice knowing you i guess. r.i.p.