Texas man acquitted of blatant homicide

[Vykromond]

guys like 70 odds are he might die tomorrow why waste the time and money needed to put him in jail.

lol

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[Money]

so why is this in Useless Crap?

[milosh]

i'd back this up, as people are routinely shot at while hunting for shrooms around here by farmers. also a guy killed an intruder by impailing him with a sword; the intruder was un armed. The guy was considered a hero for protecting himself.

This is what I've been thinking. I live in Texas and we understand NO TRESPASSING. Violating it is just asking to be shot regardless of your race, and you can generally assume that being shot is under normal circumstances going to get you in the hospital or dead. I am not saying I shoot everyone that comes on my front lawn, but I do understand that it is my right to do so just as I understand it is others' right to shoot me. I'd say many Texans have "pre-meditated" that they are going to shoot the crap out of anyone they see on their property uninvited, and they have the right to do so.

[castromarx]

Dear Texas,

Would it be legal for me to place a large, inviting pile of candy on my lawn and sit on my porch, with my shotgun, waiting for children to try to grab a piece? Just wondering.

Sincerely,
FidelKarl

[milosh]

I'd say its a dumb kid that sees the guy on the porch on his rocker with a shotgun and still goes for the candy.

[milosh]

Under Section 30.05 of the Texas Penal Code, a person commits criminal trespass if "he enters or remains on or in property of another without effective consent and he 1) had notice that the entry was forbidden; or 2) received notice to depart but failed to do so."

According to Section 9.42 of the Texas Penal Code, a landowner can shoot at or use other deadly force against a trespasser if the landowner reasonably believes the land or property cannot be protected or recovered by any other means, or that the landowner himself would be exposed to substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury if the landowner does not use deadly force. A landowner can also shoot at or use other deadly force against a trespasser if the force is immediately necessary to prevent the trespasser's imminent commission of arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the nighttime or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or to prevent the trespasser who is fleeing immediately after committing one of those acts from escaping with the property. "Criminal mischief" includes "knowingly or intentionally damaging or destroying, tampering with or marking, inscribing slogans, drawing or painting on tangible property " of the property owner.

It seems that if you put up a sign or tell the kids not to take the candy that is your right.

EDIT: I'm sure other factors come into play in your given hypothetical example, such as "are the kids mature enough to understand the situation or the language in which the notice was given?", etc. My point is not to say that your fantastical example should be lawfully allowed, but that after giving appropriate notice land owners have the right to shoot trespassers who are in some way tampering with their land, which can be pretty much translated into doing anything(es.g. picking shrooms, walking on a fresh pile of mulch, or rummaging through the trash).

[HateTheFake]

Number one; murder is a crime. Once you justify death it's hard to stop justifying it.

In America people go to jail for life for this type of crime, don't forget it is a crime. Regardless if you or I or anyone else thinks this was right, it's vigilantly justice. There are laws and rules that all citizens must adhere to, you can't over-step the law just because you think it's flawed.

People serve life sentences for this crime, how is asking this man to serve to 2 years of his life unreasonable? I think this issue is bigger than just two illegals being shot down, it's about racism taking control of the courts and the atitudes of the people. You can't tell me that if he shot down two white people, regardless if they were illegal or not that he would get acquitted.

Illegal Immigration is the key issue, robbery is a key issue. They shouldnt have been here to begin with. They knew the risk of what they were doing when they did it. They were convicts in the making, they got poetic justice.

[Cops]

Illegal Immigration is the key issue, robbery is a key issue. They shouldnt have been here to begin with. They knew the risk of what they were doing when they did it. They were convicts in the making, they got poetic justice.

just because they shouldn't have been there doesn't mean they deserved to die. You sound like Bill O'Reily right now, and honestly I'm not going to get into a debate of whether taking a person's life regardless if they aren't supposed to be there or not is justified, or more justified. I think you're fighting the case that people can do whatever the fuck they want to illegal immigrants, and that somehow it's justified, at least more justified than killing an American citizen.

that's some grade a closet racist shit right there.

[Cops]

I get what you're saying, but be careful. Let the people of Texas determine his punishment.

I know the courts and legal system is a sham, and that justice is just an illusion (most of the time), but there are standards in our societies on how our citizens must act towards one another, ie human to human, not just American to American.

But isn't that what this case decided? That if a white person kills an illegal immigrant they are viewed as a hero? But I guess Texas decided his fate, and they voted in favor of racial discrimination. Justice would have been served if the man wasn't acquitted, and asking for a full length punishment is ridiculous. I proposed a way of appeasing both crowds which includes the man serving minimal amount of time, it sets a standard that illegal immigrants are no more less human than you or I.

[Scoop]

Those people were illegal aliens. Let me repeat, illegal aliens. They already get more rights in a country that they are pretty much invading then they should. If you are going to come into my country illegally, at least don't steal from its citizens. Get a job mowing grass or something like most of the other illegal immigrants. If you knowingly break into someones house, you have to take into account the fact that they could be there, and there could be a confrontation. Knowing that, they got what they deserved.

[Cops]

they are humans, humans, humans

this is exactly why I think the south is still a racially tense area to live, visit, etc. You've classified a whole race of people as being less than yourself.

[Squeezer]

I know the courts and legal system is a sham, and that justice is just an illusion, but there are standards in our societies on how our citizens must act towards one another, ie human to human, not just American to Mexican.

But isn't that what this case decided? That if a white person kills an illegal immigrant they are viewed as a hero? But I guess Texas decided his fate, and they voted in favor of racial discrimination. Justice would have been served if the man wasn't acquitted, and asking for a full length punishment is ridiculous, so that's why I proposed a way of appeasing both crowds of the man serving time, not so much because the people really give a fuck if he's there or not but because it sets a standard that illegal immigrants are less human than you or I because we are a citizen in our country.

Who says he'll be a hero? I haven't seen anyone in this thread put him on a pedestal for killing a couple of boys that weren't where they were supposed to be. Is he getting a parade? What the court decided was that he was justified in his right to kill two young man which he believed posed a threat. Because Texas is a backwards ass place, some law allows for a person to defend their neighbor's property with firearms, he didn't necessarily do anything illegal (so the court decided). When you remove the human factor and view the law, he was well within his state's rights. Sucks, but justice prevails. Perhaps this situation can bring about some sort of legislation so that the process can work itself out. Maybe not.

Or maybe NLS is correct in saying he wasn't worth the money and effort to put away so the court showed him mercy.

edit: I take it back...I haven't seen any non-retards putting him on a pedestal.

[Cops]

Who says he'll be a hero? I haven't seen anyone in this thread put him on a pedestal for killing a couple of boys that weren't where they were supposed to be. Is he getting a parade? What the court decided was that he was justified in his right to kill two young man which he believed posed a threat. Because Texas is a backwards ass place, some law allows for a person to defend their neighbor's property with firearms, he didn't necessarily do anything illegal (so the court decided). When you remove the human factor and view the law, he was well within his state's rights. Sucks, but justice prevails. Perhaps this situation can bring about some sort of legislation so that the process can work itself out. Maybe not.

Or maybe NLS is correct in saying he wasn't worth the money and effort to put away so the court showed him mercy.

edit: I take it back...I haven't seen any non-retards putting him on a pedestal.

Justice didn't prevail, just because it says you have the right to defend your neighbors house (it says defend, not kill) doesn't make it right that he shot these two down dead. The murder was also premeditated, so it wasn't in self defense. So how in the fuck did justice prevail?

Texas media is sympathizing with this man, plus by the remarks of majority of people from the south they got 'what they deserved'. Overwhelmingly people believe he did what was right, and the sad fact is that these murders won't stop now that people can get away with it.

edit: I'm going out, continue this later.

[milosh]

Why does the 'got what they deserved' remark have to be related to their race or the fact they were illegal aliens? It doesn't matter that they were aliens or that they were humans; the point is that they were trespassers.

[Cops]

'they got what they deserved' also follows comments like they weren't suppose to be in this country anyway, or at least they could get a job, a few less illegals robbing houses.

if they were humans, looked at as citizens there deaths wouldn't be justified.