John McCain vs Barack Obama Mega-Politic-Thread of super fun awesomeness.

[kthx]

What makes you think I listen to Rush Limbaugh? It doesn't take a genius to understand simple economics, or to find out with 10 minutes of research the problems both candidates have had in the past years. Now if only people would do real research on both candidates, instead of blindly following the empty suit, there wouldn't really be any problems. Unfortunately it isn't that case, and the democratic party relies on the idiocy of the average American to gain votes in the election. Take a look at Louisiana, Bobby Jindal has done amazing things for the state he governs, look at how well the state is doing financially, look at how a state ran by a conservative republican has escaped the terrible economic downfall that some of the other states have had. That is how America should be ran, cut out the government and let the system work, it is how the government was originally intended to be. It is there to protect us should war break out, help us if it is needed, not to control every facet of our lives.

[Cops]

Yeah, great president with great values, morals, and ideas to run America. Cops I love how you try to insult Izor, Exalt, and myself, when both Izor and Exalt both serve in the United State's Army. I don't serve, but I am middle class America, and I think that I have a little better grasp on the situation than some "LOL COME GET STONED" Canadian liberal.

So what you're saying is that because they were in the army they some how are free from ridicule when they say the most outrageous shit. I don't give a fuck who you are or what you do but if you say shit that's completly off base without backing it up then you come across as a fucking moron.

Would you like some examples?

liberals are anti-american

obama is the anti-christ

If you disagree with America you're a communist

global warming is secretly a socialist movement

America's free market is what makes America the best country in the world

I beg the differ, douchebag. For the record though I vote moderate, and like I've told you before I'm not a socialist, just a regular guy who finds neither the liberal or conservative point of view 'that appealing'. Work on better generalizations about Canadians, I don't smoke weed you fucking e-tard.

Your whole problem is that you think in absolutes, you're either a socialist pandering liberal or a proud republican. You can't even comprehend political views outside the realm of blue and red.

Now if only people would do real research

You've already done some fine research on your part, I got a call today from my buddy who told me global warming was secretly a socialist movement! Dude I'm so sorry I wrote you off as a loud mouth idiot who would say anything he thought of.

[Jerome Scuggs]

obama is the anti-christ

obama is an anar-chist

[Cops]

that list is going to keep growing and one day it will turn into a thread

[Money]

lol rush limbaugh

[kthx]

Look at liberal douche cops, ignoring everything, and pointing out nothing. Maybe because he is always so high.

[Cops]

At least im not saying that roughly 50% of a whole country has no understanding of the issues at hand. Please tell me how it is possible to make your vote for McCain if you were going strictly off of media coverage. All you really ever see on the news is Obama,

There's a thing called broadcast journalism, I'd consider myself more knowledgeable in this field than yourself. You can't justify sending the exact same amount of reporters and cameraman to cover a Mccain story as you would an Obama story, and you know why? Because the people needed to shoot a story in a grocery store is ridiculously small, where as Obama holding a rally and drawing thousands upon thousands of people requires A LOT more media coverage. If Mccain wants to be in the spotlight and get more attention then all he has to do is fire his campaign manager and actually do something worth reporting on.

Mccain sucks at campaigning, it's as simple as that. Do you know how tediously boring it is to shoot a story in a fucking grocery store? Probably not, but take my word that trying to fill a two to three minute story with no soundbites, or clips other than his speech is going to look boring as fuck.

"Obama picks 6 term old as fuck senator from delaware as VP, but will he really help promote hope and change?"

Biden is a wonderful public servant that has proven to be one tough ass senator. Regardless of his party I have deep amounts of respect for the guy. He doesn't represent the 'kind' of change Obama has talked about. I honestly don't think you've even read/listened to the kind of change he wants to make, you probably just heard the word 'change' and immediately thought he means white old men.

McCain choosing a young female VP and how it undermines how he's playing the experience card.

Please don't try to compare Palin's experience with Biden's experience, because frankly it does undermine his experience card.

Listen, Palin was picked to get Hillary's voters. Palin openly said in her acceptance speech that women were still going to get a chance at getting to the white house. Obama' picked a respectable senator with great foreign policy experience to bolster his lack of foreign policy experience, it was an attempt to give him a stronger and more mature front to his campaign. Both candidates are appeasing to the masses, you can't be blind to this.

with the way that it is now "cool" to be voting for obama if you were to vote for mccain you would really be the informed one

Voting for the unpopular candidate is the best way to pick the most qualified person, you're right. It also means I'm informed that I'm voting for someone based on what other people think.

fucking, sheep.

Look at liberal douche cops, ignoring everything, and pointing out nothing. Maybe because he is always so high.

Look at Wark always coming up with the most outrageous shit than trying to bait me into an argument over the fact that I'm Canadian. It's rather funny when he can't prove 99% of the bullshit that comes out of his mouth.

[castromarx]

Look at liberal douche cops, ignoring everything, and pointing out nothing. Maybe because he is always so high.

Cops is sort of conservative and right wing compared to most Canadians.

[Fluffz]

can anyone please speak out the obvious please?

Obama is black, QS is a bunch of racists.

thank you.

[Izor]

yo...the media is there when obama goes bowling...seriously? Do something worth reporting on? They wont give McCain that sort of attention, because the media is mostly leftist. They spin everything for Obama so that his 'campaign' doesnt have to. I guess that makes Obama smart and McCain stupid lol.

My point exactly is what you just said. Both candidates picked their vp's to try and cover up a 'flaw' people were trying to exploit. Obama recruits an older, more experienced person to make up for his own lack of experience, but in doing so selects a symbol of stability vs the change he wants people to believe in. McCain selects a younger, female as his VP as an attempt to even out his age (and lure hillary voters), but in doing so looks lame for such a ploy to lure hillary voters and undermines his experience card.

I'm just saying you havent given me a reason to think that people are just uninformed and voting for McCain. If Bush's approval rating looked something like 20% or whatever terrible number cnn is making up with selective polling, why would these people vote for "Bush III"? You just blast everyone as being uninformed for thinking he's the "lesser of the two evils"

LOL, the inevitable argument when speaking out against Obama supporters... "well ur just wite nd hes black so ur racist" doesnt warrant any more of my efforts to reply to this

[Fluffz]

Dont type LOL like you were not some racist trying to cover his hate in retarded arguments.

[DoTheFandango]

Since no one here can do anything but attack Obama, yet not support their own candidate in any way, time to go on the offensive.

What qualifications does McCain have for President? His dad was an admiral, thusly he got into the Navy. He was close to LAST in his class at the Naval Academy, yet somehow got to fly bomber missions in Vietnam. And don't give me that bullshit about how "it's the naval academy, just graduating is better than any other school ever" because you know who out ranked him at the Academy? Jimmy Carter, Mr. One Term president himself.

After he was captured and released, he began a series of affairs on his previous wife because she had been in a horrifying car accident in the years before. He then divorced his wife Carol for Cindy, the malicious robot you see now. So much for the moral Right, I guess?

She was 18 years younger than him and an heiress to a brewing fortune. His middle-class background is bullshit. He has almost no education in the means of law and justice, his new wife's money made him perfect for the ideal public serviceman.

His VP pick is nothing but shallow, her qualifications don't exist, she is shrouded in scandal and hypocrisy, and she exists merely as a ploy to win him office, not to lead our country in a better way.

I'm tired of McCain being seen as this outstanding citizen, this shining beacon of light in a cloud of fog. It's such bullshit.

[kthx]

Fluffz is the worst of the worst, we dislike Obama so we are racist, because obviously his policies aren't what I dislike. If Colin ran for president I would vote for him instantly. But yeah I am so racist.

And Cops, you are a moron.

An analysis of federal records shows that the amount of money journalists contributed so far this election cycle favors Democrats by a 15:1 ratio over Republicans, with $225,563 going to Democrats, only $16,298 to Republicans .

Two-hundred thirty-five journalists donated to Democrats, just 20 gave to Republicans — a margin greater than 10-to-1. An even greater disparity, 20-to-1, exists between the number of journalists who donated to Barack Obama and John McCain.

Searches for other newsroom categories (reporters, correspondents, news editors, anchors, newspaper editors and publishers) produces 311 donors to Democrats to 30 donors to Republicans, a ratio of just over 10-to-1. In terms of money, $279,266 went to Dems, $20,709 to Republicans, a 14-to-1 ratio.

And while the money totals pale in comparison to the $9-million-plus that just one union’s PACs have spent to get Obama elected, they are more substantial than the amount that Obama has criticized John McCain for receiving from lobbyists: 96 lobbyists have contributed $95,850 to McCain, while Obama — who says he won’t take money from PACs or federal lobbyists — has received $16,223 from 29 lobbyists.

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It features moderator George Stephanopolous saying to Sen. Biden:

You were asked if he [Obama] was ready. You said, “I think he can be ready but right now I don’t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.”

Cut to Biden who says:

I think that I stand by that statement.

The headless announcer steps in to ask, “And what does he [Biden] say of John McCain?”

Cut to a clip from Jon Stewart’s “The Daily Show” back in 2005 where Biden said:

I would be honored to run with or against John McCain because I think the country would be better off.

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I don't even need a news quote for this one. Yes both candidates were appealing to the masses. However, Obama picked an old white guy. McCain picked a in touch with the average American, mother of five, who chose to raise a child with down syndrome instead of aborting it, who likes hunting, fishing. Sounds like more change than Obama to me. Besides, I would MUCH rather see inexperience in a vice president, than in the actual president. And Palin has more experience than Obama does.

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Do you know who else was a cool guy who gave speeches and wanted to change.. Hitler. Obama is much like Hitler, should look it up. Besides, you can't even vote idiot.

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I am not trying to bait you into an argument, you jumped into a conversation you don't have any business really worrying about since you don't live in the country the argument is about. It would be like me saying OH IM VOTING FOR CANADIAN PRIME MINISTER HOCKEY MCMAPLE INSTEAD OF FLANNEL DU LE MOIRSETTE BECAUSE IM SO INVOLVED IN CANADIAN POLITICS DOWN HERE IN TEXAS. But yet, I don't because I, and the world don't really give a shit what happens in that terrible country. The only thing I do know is your health care is failing utterly, and that is what Obama wants to do in America.

So I just used facts up there, like I have been throughout this entire thread to prove what I believe in. Are you going to ignore them and make more baseless accusations, liberal douche bag Canadian stoner?

[DoTheFandango]

Do you know who else was a cool guy who gave speeches and wanted to change.. Hitler. Obama is much like Hitler, should look it up. Besides, you can't even vote idiot.

what?

[kthx]

Since no one here can do anything but attack Obama, yet not support their own candidate in any way, time to go on the offensive.

What qualifications does McCain have for President? His dad was an admiral, thusly he got into the Navy. He was close to LAST in his class at the Naval Academy, yet somehow got to fly bomber missions in Vietnam. And don't give me that bullshit about how "it's the naval academy, just graduating is better than any other school ever" because you know who out ranked him at the Academy? Jimmy Carter, Mr. One Term president himself.

After he was captured and released, he began a series of affairs on his previous wife because she had been in a horrifying car accident in the years before. He then divorced his wife Carol for Cindy, the malicious robot you see now. So much for the moral Right, I guess?

She was 18 years younger than him and an heiress to a brewing fortune. His middle-class background is bullshit. He has almost no education in the means of law and justice, his new wife's money made him perfect for the ideal public serviceman.

His VP pick is nothing but shallow, her qualifications don't exist, she is shrouded in scandal and hypocrisy, and she exists merely as a ploy to win him office, not to lead our country in a better way.

I'm tired of McCain being seen as this outstanding citizen, this shining beacon of light in a cloud of fog. It's such bullshit.

Hey, at least he got divorced from his previous wife before he decided to h
have sex with another one. If more democrats *cough*johnedwardswhowasoneofobamaspossiblevicepre sidentchoices*cough* could understand this than there would be so many of them getting caught under the oval office, or having babies and hiding in the bathroom from reporters rofl.

As for his qualifications, McCain has never said that Iran is a small country, and that it posed no serious thread. McCain has never agreed to meet with the leaders of the worst countries of the world without pre-condition, inlcuding ones who don't believe that the holocaust ever happened. That right there is enough for me to vote for him.