The "N" Word

[Stompa]

Agreed ^
dsb allows n word and they use it less than us .

ps. stompa why u act so retarded on chats compared to here

Because I'm trolling in game, and I don't have the e-cred to successfully troll on the forums (this assumes therefore I have the e-cred in game).

There may be some legitimacy to the fact that because it's a banned word people are more apt to use it; a kind of adolescent revolt against the rules; but also makes sense from any approach (if I tell you not to think about a white horse, you can't help but to). That said if the word (and other racial slurs/words/phrases/anything staff deems with racial motives) were no longer singled out it would no longer be fun or cool to tempt the rule. It will lose its appeal quickly. This rule is responsible for whoever the hell that started calling people "naggers" and any other "innocent" way around the filter, because it's obviously just a protest against a rule that has little grounding other than "racism is bad." Which it is, there's no arguing that.

this is what i've been saying for years (the ?obscene option part anyway, because the filter already does block the word). unfortunately this zone is a daycare with ass-backwards policies.

I've wondered for YEARS why they just wouldn't simply put that word in the obscene list. It suggests some ulterior motive...like someone with an agenda to "stamp out racism." It's like they left it out of obscene just to persecute anyone who says it. It's almost like its a rule of atonement: this word has done SO much harm that we will actively and publicly hunt racist terms be they a seriously assertion of racial superiority or a tasteless joke.

But I haven't heard a cogent argument from staff or anyone else for that matter that explains why they just won't add the word to the obscene list, and I've always been suspicious for that reason.

People genuinely convinced of their racial superiority (and then use to form a hegemony) are pretty fuckin ignorant, scummy wastes of life, but so are homophobes (or just those who hate and ridicule gays), so are sexists, so are any group of people whose ignorance afflicts others, whose ignorance either overtly or covertly oppresses another group. It's the kind of bullshit that leads to things like witch hunts and lynchings and dragging gay people behind your truck until they are dead. But really why racism above all else? To score one for the black man? Or is it misplaced white boy guilt? I can only speculate after so many years.

In the end it's likely that I'll just have to get over it. But at a glance it's so bizarre to see such an obviously bad word NOT in the obscene filter, and then see the extension of a crusade against racism (which is necessary to justify not having the word filtered).

[genocidal]

Here is the reason why it's illegal:

Because PriitK pays for the server and he wants it to be illegal.

[Stompa]

Because PriitK pays for the server and he wants it to be illegal.

word?

[Lucon]

Someone pays for the server? I hadn't seen Priitk in so long I thought it'd just become self-sustaining.

[Galleleo]

If you put racism in the obscene list and leave it at that, I wont be able to follow 90% of what is being said. I don't like to see racism, so I would have to keep obscene on, but that means that any sentence including fuck or whatever gets blocked.

Also, if I understand correctly, if you put it in obscene, words like Nigeria (the first thing that popped into my mind, but I am sure there are a bunch more) get blocked too.

[MetalHeadz]

Ok this has nothing to do with SSCU TRENCHWARS that is why it is in here.

I was watching a video of George Carlin and lol the filter missed this came into the conversation between my friend and I.

Richard Pryor and George Carlin take on the word... in a video that I can't post on SSCU Trench Wars Forums.

Then it made me wonder how this word originated. Led me to good ole wikipedia article that I can't post, either.

So basically it's the English way of saying negro (spanish) or even originally niger (latin) which means basically black.

What are your thoughts on the matter?

i think the forum filter sucks for letting an n-bomb through unscathed. -ph

You seem to miss the point of what it is to be racist. The fact that the word 'n*****' is borrowed from Spanish and Latin translations of 'black' does not make it excusable to use it. This is because the Anglo-American version of the word is directly connected to a history of endemic racism which we have done well to defraud. If a certain community of people find a certain term offensive we should be respectful of this.

[DankNuggets]

You seem to miss the point of what it is to be racist. The fact that the word 'n*****' is borrowed from Spanish and Latin translations of 'black' does not make it excusable to use it. This is because the Anglo-American version of the word is directly connected to a history of endemic racism which we have done well to defraud. If a certain community of people find a certain term offensive we should be respectful of this.

well that certain community also spurts the word out in public, in print, and on television 100x more often than the KKK.

It's the opinion of 95% of people on TW (god i love making up numbers) that the banning of the word is not because of racial pretext.

Why? Because it's a blanket ban instead of banning on context. It's banning the n-word, not banning racism

i'll say it again, bigger and enboldened: It's banning the n-word, not banning racism

And yes, we know quite well how mods are equally sexist and homophobic, but it's ok because there are no gay or female staff... oh wait you're harassing and belittling your own staff buddies as well !

Seriously, how many bans are handed down on a case by case basis? I hope a lot. Cheating, lag issues, tk'ing, there all handled on a person to person basis because it's up to the moderator's discretion. Racism could EASILY be handled on a person to person basis, since it flags whoever says the n word with a warning. Very simple, mod enters the arena, checks the chat for a minute, maybe asks some witnesses, then either bans/warns/ignores the person.

And it could easily be filtered out with ?obscene. When have we started ranking obscenities? You can't say "oh well i don't want to see fuck spelled out on my screen, but hell, ass, and damn are A-OK!"

Not to mention, it'd be a whole lot more effective to place longer bans on more obvious racists than to put blanket bans on people who use it causally.

Not to mention that anytime you could play the "he's being racist" card, you could also ban them for harassment...

[kthx]

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niggard
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n.

A stingy, grasping person; a miser.
adj.

Stingy; miserly.

[Middle English nigard, perhaps from nig, stingy person, of Scandinavian origin.]

[Squeezer]

some people just have to jump across the line as often as they can ^^^^ :grin:



"He was a habitual line stepper."

[kthx]

Squeezer I appreciate that you notice this, because generally you sir are rather niggardly.

[DankNuggets]

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A stingy, grasping person; a miser.
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Stingy; miserly.

[Middle English nigard, perhaps from nig, stingy person, of Scandinavian origin.]

i see that you'v found the true origin of the n-word, so maybe all that shit should be edited too. I've always heard that it didn't derive from the latinization of "black"