how deep can you think?

[Squeezer]

If I said you did, I'm sorry if I did. I'm just trying to put it out there: He's a shitty husband, father, and artist.

he "was" those things.

he dead now.

itt: we cant get over ourselves and decide instead to determine the best course to live life. im going to do a shit ton of drugs right now just in spite of this thread.

edit: and drugs ruined Hunter S. Thompson's career? He wouldn't have had a career if he hand't taken drugs and gone Gonzo.

And I wasn't aware that smoking weed made you a part of a culture. Thanks for the update!

[Pressure]

And I wasn't aware that smoking weed made you a part of a culture. Thanks for the update!

There's definitely a weed "culture," or lifestyle. I don't see why people have a problem with it. Even smoking daily for years, many people live out long, healthy and functional lives. Yeah, it irritates your lungs and potentially stupefies you, but plenty of excellent things have been created whilst under the influence of pot, and sure, people have died in car accidents and whatnot (small margin) but if people want to do it who's to stop them? You think it's bad? K, don't do it, more for me.

I think a much more interesting topic is the legalization/positive uses of mdma.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...88654365150131

Interesting, unbiased and balanced documentary. Obviously it's a hard drug, an interesting topic nonetheless. Not to say that I ever have (or ever will, for that matter, because I won't) use the drug, it's still a good video.

Country on E = No Fighting/War = No state = Illegal

[paradise!]

Loose, broad? Sounds like yo mom. But frealz.

Beliefs are 100 percent subjective. It is impossible to ever experience a different person's beliefs, you can only believe you have.

Now that I've shown they are completely subjective we need to connect why that means everything we know is subjective, or a belief.

Think of something, anything at all, it could be true or false. You could KNOW it's true or KNOW it's false. Bottom line is, because we are not omnipotent, objective beings we only BELIEVE WE KNOW. And what are beliefs? SUBJECTIVE!

This isn't to say that objectiveness doesn't exist, it's just that we never actually directly perceive it as-is.

fuck yes, yo momma jokes.

Our beliefs are objective because we label them as objective, the definition of subjective might work, but it isn't truly subjective. Example: The grass under my feet is green. 1) it IS under my feet, although it is not the only thing under my feet, it IS still one of many things under my feet
2) the grass is green because that's its color, I have yet to be proven otherwise at this very moment that the grass is a color that ISN'T green.

How is this subjective?

I don't believe its green, I know its green. I've compared it to other things that ARE green as well as the color green itself.

explain


None of this "the world is flat *leaves room*" nonsense, support.

[Squeezer]

before someone comes in here and owns paradise's point, I'd like to say that TK owned me on this exact same argument 2 years or so ago.

Wish I could find that thread.

edit: It was about me objectively believing my gf wouldn't cheat on me or something. She ended up cheating on me. gg

[dads revenge]

what if your color blind or the spectrum of light which we see in is not true color just what we interpret it to be after it has been affected by solar radiation and then modified by our own visual cortex in order to make it "seem" green. what if "THEY" just want you to think its green as another form of control I mean if it was brown you would water it not because you don't like brown but because your mind has been tricked into thinking that brown is dry and thus requires water to make it green. hmm where the fuck was I going with this?

[Kontrolz]

fuck yes, yo momma jokes.

Our beliefs are objective because we label them as objective, the definition of subjective might work, but it isn't truly subjective. Example: The grass under my feet is green. 1) it IS under my feet, although it is not the only thing under my feet, it IS still one of many things under my feet
2) the grass is green because that's its color, I have yet to be proven otherwise at this very moment that the grass is a color that ISN'T green.

How is this subjective?

I don't believe its green, I know its green. I've compared it to other things that ARE green as well as the color green itself.

explain


None of this "the world is flat *leaves room*" nonsense, support.

It is subjective because when you say "is" what you are referring to is something YOU take as a "fact". All you can know about what "is", is what YOU think (believe). Because you can NEVER experience another person's belief in what "is", all you ever experience is YOUR own subjective beliefs about what "is". Whether that be what YOU label as "objective", or anything else you want to think of.

[Liquid Blue]

before someone comes in here and owns paradise's point, I'd like to say that TK owned me on this exact same argument 2 years or so ago.

Wish I could find that thread.

edit: It was about me objectively believing my gf wouldn't cheat on me or something. She ended up cheating on me. gg

yea i was wondering what happened between you and her. It was the chick from the bumper car photo, right?

don't you hate bitches sometimes

[Jeenyuss]

i hate bitches ALL the time.]

why i like mans more.

and weed.

smoke lots of weed

[Da1andonly]

before someone comes in here and owns paradise's point, I'd like to say that TK owned me on this exact same argument 2 years or so ago.

Wish I could find that thread.

edit: It was about me objectively believing my gf wouldn't cheat on me or something. She ended up cheating on me. gg

damn. I'm drunk at the moment and heading out for more, but I just had to comment on this post, somehow it seems like the most ..arggh can't find the words for it, but yeah - props for posting this, and I do mean it.

[Money]

[fLaReD]

well i don't really ever smoke anymore, but i used to quite a bit. and i don't know about you guys, but when i smoked weed, i never got these out-of-body experiences you're talking about, and i sure as hell never felt any smarter. usually (always) when i would smoke, i'd just become a completely dumbass, want to eat everything in sight, and laugh hysterically at the stupidiest shit, pretty stereotypical. so royce i guess i can't really say that i know where you're coming from

and someone else said earlier that the majority of "stoners" you meet are fucking idiots. well in my case, this is a whole load of bullshit. this probably isn't the greatest example since i'm at a decent university, (which means that in general, people are fairly smart) but i'm really the only out of any of my friends who doesn't smoke. the funny thing is, the ones who smoke the most (3-5 times a day) are actually the smartest. the one who smokes the most of them all aces almost every exam, is enrolled in the honors program, has a 4.0, and scored a 35 on his ACT. but like i said, these aren't the greatest examples, and i've definitely met some stoners who are fucking idiots. i guess my opinion is that it isn't weed itself that makes a person any more or less smart, it just seems this way because the people who are idiots to begin with are a lot more likely to start using the drugs then the ones who are naturally more intelligent.

[TagMor]

I am pretty sure I discovered the meaning of life when I was high as fuck, then i forgot.

[Display]

Lol i get that shit all the timeeee.. One minuteeeee were talken the weirdest conversations, and at the very end i just blank out and im like wait.. what did we just talk about 2 seconds ago? but its fucken great

[Heroin Bob]

sure, people have died in car accidents and whatnot (small margin) but if people want to do it who's to stop them?

wow. really? SURE PEOPLE HAVE DIED IN CAR ACCIDENTS AFTER DRINKING AT A BAR, WHOS TO STOP THEM?

when your mom/dad/brother/sister/children get hit by some guy all fucked up and they die let me know how your perspective changes.

[gran guerrero]

you must be some lightweight if you can't drive stoned, but hey that's my opinion, cause I can drive quite fine high.

Also my architecture teacher told me all the guys he knew back when he was in school would blaze the fuck up all the time and get better grades than him when he was the sober one of the group. And architecture is like the third hardest degree to get.

It's all a matter of opinion, you can think stoners are dumbass losers, or you can think their intelligent beings.

I'm not even going to say anything more on the subject, cause I doubt it will change anyone's mind on what they believe. So here's my fuck you to the guys that disagree with me, and my smoke weed everyday to those who agree with me.