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    Rita Yamaoka, a mother of three who immigrated from Brazil, recently lost her factory job here. Now, Japan has made her an offer she might not be able to refuse.

    The government will pay thousands of dollars to fly Mrs. Yamaoka; her husband, who is a Brazilian citizen of Japanese descent; and their family back to Brazil. But in exchange, Mrs. Yamaoka and her husband must agree never to seek to work in Japan again.

    The program is limited to the country’s Latin American guest workers, whose Japanese parents and grandparents emigrated to Brazil and neighboring countries a century ago to work on coffee plantations.

    In 1990, Japan — facing a growing industrial labor shortage — started issuing thousands of special work visas to descendants of these emigrants. An estimated 366,000 Brazilians and Peruvians now live in Japan.

    Under the emergency program, introduced this month, the country’s Brazilian and other Latin American guest workers are offered $3,000 toward air fare, plus $2,000 for each dependent — attractive lump sums for many immigrants here. Workers who leave have been told they can pocket any amount left over.

    But those who travel home on Japan’s dime will not be allowed to reapply for a work visa. Stripped of that status, most would find it all but impossible to return.

    The plan came as a shock to many, especially after the government introduced a number of measures in recent months to help jobless foreigners, including free Japanese-language courses, vocational training and job counseling. Guest workers are eligible for limited cash unemployment benefits, provided they have paid monthly premiums.

    “It’s baffling,” said Angelo Ishi, an associate professor in sociology at Musashi University in Tokyo. “The Japanese government has previously made it clear that they welcome Japanese-Brazilians, but this is an insult to the community.”

    “We should stop letting unskilled laborers into Japan. We should make sure that even the three-K jobs are paid well, and that they are filled by Japanese,” he said. “I do not think that Japan should ever become a multiethnic society.”

    It could also hurt Japan in the long run. The aging country faces an impending labor shortage. The population has been falling since 2005, and its working-age population could fall by a third by 2050. Though manufacturers have been laying off workers, sectors like farming and care for the elderly still face shortages.
    “They put up with us as long as they needed the labor,” said Wellington Shibuya, who came six years ago and lost his job at a stove factory in October. “But now that the economy is bad, they throw us a bit of cash and say goodbye.”

    He recently applied for the government repatriation aid and is set to leave in June.

    “We worked hard; we tried to fit in. Yet they’re so quick to kick us out,” he said. “I’m happy to leave a country like this.”
    http://finance.yahoo.com/career-work...ers-to-Go-Home

    Wow

    Has anyone else heard about this? What are your thoughts and opinions? I'm surprised, especially considering the fears of how large their workforce will be in a few decades.


    what do you all think of this?
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    • #3
      Yeah I read this article 2 days ago... Sounds about right. The Japanese are pretty isolationist and don't like outsiders. They also don't like to make a scene. It would make sense that they would try and just pay unwanted immigrant workers to get out of the country, which is much better than just revoking their visas and deporting them.
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      • #4
        Why do I give a fuck about them?
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        • #5
          Yeah many brazilians went to Japan in the 90's,since Brazil was going through a hard moment,while Japan was doing well and needing workers. Now Japan is doing bad and, like any other rich country that has been hit by crisis, isn't wanting foreign workers.

          I'm not surprised about it.Something like this was expected and the isolations tend to get stronger while the financial situation get bigger.

          About the future of Japan,well... If someday they need more ppl in their country I hope they make a Sex Visa, in wich foreign go there only to have sex OMFG THAT WOULD BE THE PARADISE. Love asians.

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          • #6
            yea what I don't get is that they're worried about having available jobs/not paying foreigners in the short term- but in the long term they have this workforce crisis on the horizon, slowly coming closer and closer.

            I mean, are they really going to try and be ultra-isolationist until all their elderly need their diapers changed?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Liquid Blue View Post
              I mean, are they really going to try and be ultra-isolationist until all their elderly need their diapers changed?
              I think there plan is to create robots to look after them...thus negating the need for such a workforce...If you are a rich country its pretty easy to import cheap labour if you need it, so they can easily reverse this policy later.
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              • #8
                Omfg!!!!I always did wonder why those japaneses would try so hard to create those androids...Now everything everything makes sense!!!Their population isnt growing but also they dont like outsiders,so they are going to substitute the humans!!

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                • #9
                  All I can say is that in many ways Japan is somewhat similar to Canada, except we're way more accepting to outsiders. The similarities is that we both have a controllable population, with the ability to control how many people we let into our country. However, with that ability comes great responsibility to not use those people.

                  The advantages to countries such as Canada, Japan, and many European countries is that yes we have a smaller population but in some ways it's actually beneficial to us. It means that we don't have millions and millions of people in our country who can't find work. When there's a tough economic time, like there is now, it's important for smaller countries to tighten the amount of immigrants we allow into our countries. But to buy them out of your country is pretty fucking awful. Canada and Japan will need a serious influx of people to fulfill our labor shortage that will happen in the near future. By treating immigrants this way, you pretty much turn people off wanting to come working in your country. All the better for us, since I'd like to see more professionals come to this country.

                  Edit: On a side note, this sounds really fucking awful but when people come to this country seeking prosperity (which I still believe is a viable option), a lot of people get hit with the harsh reality that Companies favor employees who were educated in Canada, America, Australia, and Britain. It's kind of good for me, considering when there's opportunities again the first ones in line are Canadian born citizens.
                  Last edited by Cops; 04-24-2009, 01:34 PM.
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                  • #10
                    i thought it was interesting that canada can control their population and doesn't have millions of people who can't find work. but that's only because there's over 200,000 illegal immigrants and over 10,000,000 unemployed in canada.
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                    • #11
                      Our population is roughly 33,000,000 (33 Million), The unemployment rate is below 10 percent I believe (Roughly 3 Million). So there is Millions of people out of work in Canada (only 3). I'm one of them, but the fact is that 3 Million people compared to how many Americans are out of work? It sucks, but we have a lot less people out of work. I think this rate could be lowered to 5-6 percent if the government started investing in the right industries and started to lend money to companies who were profitable before the the big economic meltdown (feel the sarcasm?), and realize those cancerous companies who bled money out of you before are just going to keep bleeding more money out of you.

                      If 10,000,000 Canadians are of work then that means we have 33% of our workforce is sitting at home. I'm not sure where you got that number...

                      edit: I knew the unemployment rate was between 7-9 percent, it's actually 8.

                      http://www.statcan.gc.ca/subjects-su...fs-epa-eng.htm
                      Last edited by Cops; 04-24-2009, 02:14 PM.
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                      • #12
                        Just going to double post;

                        I realize Canada doesn't have the population or immigration problem that America has, and for that reason it's easier for us to control our economy and more importantly our growth. It's a rigid conservative approach that ensures that the people who were born and live here won't be outright competing with newcomers. Certainly we invoke competition and professionals to come to this country, considering we tend to not have enough people for the amount of jobs in this country. However, it's politically, economically, socially, and immorally wrong to open your doors to people looking for work when we have Canadian born citizens struggling to find employment.

                        The dynamics of our two countries are very different, I understand this, but in some ways Canada is and will always be economically and politically more stable than America. This has everything to do with population, and geography.
                        Last edited by Cops; 04-24-2009, 01:46 PM.
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                        • #13
                          Why are you comparing absolute numbers of unemployed instead of relative ones? Canada's unemployment rate is 8%, USA's is 8.5%.

                          America's population is 9 times bigger than that of Canada. Am I the only one seeing that it's pretty obvious that America would have more unemployed people in absolute terms?

                          I also think your reasoning about the 'immigrant threat' to economic growth is based on thin air. There are plenty of examples of countries where 'newcomers' have substantially contributed to extra economic growth, see Britain for example. Closing your doors to other people willing to take jobs is a form of protectionism, and that is exactly what will hold a nation back on the road to a quick economic recovery.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Nycle View Post
                            I also think your reasoning about the 'immigrant threat' to economic growth is based on thin air.
                            In a growing economy short on labour, immigrants contribute to economic growth though the lowering of labour cost,

                            Whilst an economy where unemployment is rising and therefore an excess of, this can cause social problems (people see foreigners getting jobs whilst they cannot, makes them jealous and angry, they question why the goverment is allowing more people into the country when there is enough labour capacity already) and it can also increases the welfare bill (often indirectly). Its simply dangerous politically to allow unchecked immigration in this enviroment, people often feel very angry during a recession and look for someone to take it out on.

                            You may not be aware but Britain has very recently "closed the door" and tightened up alot of its immigration requirements (its brought in quotas similiar to australia) for non-EU citizens, before when the economy was growing they were much more relaxed. Theres now a surplus of labour in the UK so further immegrants are not required. They are encouraging people in the EU not to come to the UK though various media material too.

                            Also immigrants are not attracted to a country where they are unlikely to find work and earn money, this also acts as a stabliser.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Cops View Post
                              if the government started investing in the right industries
                              what do you mean when you speak of government investment? where does the capital come from (assuming it is not bled away from taxpayers by a cancerous government)? what industries are the right industries, and how would you prevent a 'bubble' from forming?

                              i know you're not an economist, but neither are the people who will decide all these answers. take a stab.
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