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**KJW** · 04-30-2003, 01:35 AM

thats it. for now

Probably because you broke your arms with so much ego stuff. Come back down to earth there FF.

**Ronin** · 04-30-2003, 01:39 AM

Haha that whole elim speccing thing was great tho, probably the best time i've ever had in elim.

but the whole vet chat is over-rated.

**Epinephrine** · 04-30-2003, 01:47 AM

Ahh FF there were so many other abuses that you didn't talk about :P

RAMsey was the best though I'd have to admit. Nothing like going 20-0 while continously typing "I LOVE YOU BROTHER" "AVENGE ME BROTHER" bwhahahahahhahah

-Epi

**kthx** · 04-30-2003, 01:50 AM

me again.

I am still wondering how you became the most influental player in trenchwars without any sense of spelling or grammer, and you remind me of Al Bundy, "back in High School I scored 4 touchdowns at Polk High" sorta like a college student going to a high school party.. you get the jist of it.

**monkee** · 04-30-2003, 02:27 AM

LOL @ kobey :eek:

**TelC@t** · 04-30-2003, 02:32 AM

FF: whats your ranking in baseelim?

**Jason** · 04-30-2003, 03:33 AM

Jesus christ, there's another one of these? I hope you get carpal tunnel after pasting this egotistical bullshit all over the place.

**Roxy** · 04-30-2003, 04:18 AM

lol

<3

**Zloy** · 04-30-2003, 06:11 AM

Re: FieryFire's secrets, What the rest of Trench wars didnt know but believed was true=(

Originally posted by FieryFire

Mystery #6) We have a elite vet chat that none of you newbies know about. It is only for the elite vets who are still left and .. we're a dying breed so we have to stay together..sorry newbies you guys luck out.

What type of grades do you need to get into Vet School?
Let me say that it is statistically harder to get into a veterinary medicine college than it is to get into a human medical college because of the limited number of veterinary colleges(only 27 in the United States) compared to medical colleges. Therefore, your grades have to be very competitive.
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Now this doesn't mean you have to be a straight. A student. Veterinary colleges look at many factors in deciding who is a possible candidate including extra activities, experience in working with animals and more but a solid background in biology, science and math is usually desired. The good news is that the veterinary field has significantly diversified in the past decade so colleges also include individuals not from the "normal" statis quo.

How long does it take to become a Veterinarian?
It requires 4 years of college and an additional 4 years of veterinary medicine. Internship or residency credits are not required but are offered to achieve advanced qualification or specialty certification. The exception being that it was recently required that foreign graduates need additional veterinary medical residency credits. This is a debated subject.

Once you finish vet school can you practice being a veterinarian?
No, you first have to pass a demanding national veterinary medical board exam - similiar to the bar exam in law.
After that in order to practice in a state you need to pass a state board exam. Each state has their own requirements although some states do reciprocate. This means that if you pass the state board exam you would be eligible to practice in another state that accepts those scores.
There are pros and cons to this system. Many doctors feel that medical knowledge is not different from one state to the next, they already passed the veterinary medical board tests, so why would they have to limit themselves to a specific state. On the other side some feel that each state has specific regional questions they want addressed and they feel is important for veterinarians to be aware and knowledgable about them. On the whole, most states do not reciprocate so you must choose where to practice carefully or be willing to take a lot of tests.

Do you need to keep up with new techniques and information?
Yes, you must take a certain amount of continuing education courses throughout your life if you wish to continue practicing veterinary medicine. Which seminars you chose is up to the Veterinarian. This allows individuality along with keeping current on many new techniques, ideas and recent diseases. Also many veterinarians routinely subscribe to the journals of veterinary medicine to their overall knowledge of veterinary advances.

Do you have an oath to take?
Yes, The Veterinarian Oath is below:
Being admitted to the profession of veterinary medicine, I solemnly swear to use my scientific knowledge and skills for the benefit of society through the protection of animal health, the relief of animal suffering, the conservation of animal resources, the promotion of public health, and the advancement of medical knowledge.
I will practice my profession conscientiously, with dignity, and in keeping with the principles of veterinary medical ethics.
I accept as a lifelong obligation the continual improvement of my professional knowledge and competence.

Do you think vets are similar to doctors?
This is probably one of the most frustrating aspects of being a veterinarian. Many people believe that it is only a technical school type of degree or one similar to a Chiropractor's or Pharmacist's degree, which it is not. Although people are getting more knowledgeable as time progresses.
It is good to keep in mind that Veterinarians are Doctors but in a different field. In fact, the veterinarian curriculum is more diversified than human medicine because of the amount of different species and physiologies they have to study. Remember, many veterinarians especially general practitioners take on many responsibilities as surgeons, pharmacists, diagnosticians, radiologists, behaviorists, dentists, orthopedic surgeon,....and provide comfort to both patient and owner- all this has to be learned.

Can a dog veterinarian treat a dolphin or an elephant?
There are courses in veterinary school that encompass an overview of different animals. This encludes marine animals and wildlife, but most courses are specific to domestic land animals (both companion pets and farm animals). Birds and reptiles are also researched but to a smaller degree. However, aquatic medicine and wild animal medicine are specialties as you decide what field you want to practice. So even though you have the basic knowledge of their physiology if you are a general practitioner you don't have the experience, special equipment or specific medicines to treat them.
There is also good news if you do want to work with exotic animals. A few years ago there weren't many opportunities available but there now are a greater number of jobs available in those fields with the advent of zoological/marine parks and the increased awareness of environmental science.

How many Veterinarians are there in the U.S.?
Today more than 58,000 veterinarians are professionally active in the United States, of that 75% are in private clinical practice but that number is decreasing. More and more are going into other fields like, teaching, research, government service, public health, military service, private industry, and other areas.
There are currently more male veterinarians but that number is bound to change since currently over 60% of those attending vet school today are women.

What does the job entail?
The job responsibilities vary based on the type of field you choose. Veterinary medicine offers jobs from company research, field study to private practice. Many veterinarians work in labs developing medicine. The veterinarian that is mostly identified with is the one in private practice. They must be a general physician / surgeon / diagnostician / pharmacist all in one with knowledge of a variety of different species. Many are also "on call" any time of day to answer or treat emergencies.

What made you want to become a vet?
(excerpt from a companion animal practitioner)
I guess I became a vet because of my combined interest in science, medicine and animals. When I was young my mother loved German Shepherds and had 4 of them. I loved their intelligence and loyalty and when they got sick I took care of them and found I enjoyed helping them.
As I grew my vision expanded and I started to see enjoyment and personal character from all different animals. I began to see the independence and fortitude of cats and the companionship of even the smallest bird or pet and how much they meant to people. I guess I was hooked then.

My most rewarding experience had to do with a parrot that had its crop burned through to the outside by food that was microwaved. It was a big problem. It was too big a hole to seal with just the available area skin and even if I did, it would never be able to retain enough food to be of much use. The only way was to graph the area, but a parrot doesn't have much extra skin on their body. I knew it would have to be slowly done, but what about the opening. I had to devise a temporary substitute for skin until the graph took and the wound finally closed. It took a course of 16 operations to get enough skin from its leg to close completely. Now - his feathers on his chest don't all go in the same direction but he's back to normal and even gave me a nice bite to prove it. (He never was the friendliest.)

What was your most discouraging experience?
(excerpt from a general practitioner)
I have worked with companion animals in private practice for 20 years. Unfortunately, medicine is frought with pets you can't help, including your own. As a human being that personally hits you hard but there are many owner's pets that you just don't expect to get attached to, that you do.
One such pet was a beautiful dog in terms of temperament and personality. The owner was completely dedicated to him and was her companion when her husband died of cancer. I diagnosed her dog with a malignant tumor and statisically knew that he only had a short time to live even with the best care.
The owner and I came to a decision to try to maintain the body to give them both time, but in a few weeks it was evident that it wasn't working and he was in pain. Even a call to the specialist yielded the same conclusion. She wanted to be in the room when we euthanized him. The owner said her goodbyes. He went peacefully and without struggle, the way he had always been. Those are the patients you miss and remember the most. It also makes you understand that medicine and doctors have their limitations.

(full version at http://www.talktothevet.com/faqvetcareer.HTM , help a dying breed, become a vet today!)

**Eeks** · 04-30-2003, 09:31 AM

This somehow reminds me of that creager's thread.

**GuruMeditation** · 04-30-2003, 09:55 AM

Re: FieryFire's secrets, What the rest of Trench wars didnt know but believed was true=(

Originally posted by FieryFire
ARrite kids, i am capped at 10000 characters so i will try to sum this up. This thread is to inform you guys of my days, when we had teams ilke RAMsey', Random bannings as Smod, my control over elim and forcing ppl to spec as i please and such.

Oh yeah, this is really going to be a best seller in the NY Times. FieryFire revelations of a few years ago!

Mystery #1) Most of you vets would know the RAMsey's back in the day. Yeah well it was RAMsey RAMsey1 RAMsey2 and so on. Only selected few players were it, mostly elite dulers such as epi jack skater and myself. Yeah so we would sit around in elim and since were like too good back in the day no one could touch us, we would go like 20-0 and team and own everyone in elim. So sad for the newbies. Better yet, we would sya we were from Siege hahah so everyone thought siege were the lamers in elim. WE got specced a few times, elim ended prematurely, but it was well worth the laffs.. oh it came to the point where i gave a countdown to someone and he would die when the timer hit 0 $ So Elusive was too good to compelmetn the main article

And when did you eventually act your age in the zone?

Mystery #2) WONder why u got random banned? OH it was probably me. When I had smod, I felt that some ppl didnt deserve to play Subspace, because they were a pest in the zone. yeah well no one knew about it so ppl dissapeared, at one point i was well respected on staff so everyone listend to me. Evne priitk which iss why we have TWO ELIMS , thanks due to me. oh yeah do u gusy remember who kobey was ? the mod for oneday and got banned and his mod stripped? he said he didnt do anything .. he's right . I typed *zone HI, everyone my name is kobey and i like to abuse as mod - kobey

then he got banned gg.

Can you go around banning levis? Would do Subspace a load of good.

And doesn't the server log who does *zone messages?

Mystery #3) Yeah during waldo ppl, mods can see your pingtimes so the decoys dont work. why do u think i got like 27-0 .. its not cuz i am a good guesser u idiots.

Waldo is about as crap as hunt.

Mystery #4) At one point i owned elim, literally. So one day with like 10 of us on my chat, we decided to mess aroudn with the rest of tw public. I told each of them to last out at the ned..so when it came down to the last 10 of us..i gave a countdown like i was cheating and if they were chasing me they would be specced..idiots. i told them to spec when i siad 0 on my chat so thats why they specced..and everyone was like ff hacks..and i played long i had twister..haha wat was funny was staff was asking me questoins cuz robo ref wouldnt detect any cheat so priitk was like ff u bad boy=(

Were you drunk or high when you wrote this?

Mystery #5) Oh yeah, u know why some of the vets got crayz elim ratings its cuz they cheated. thanks. having one person be a different name an dget free kills..ppl were good but ratings in the 6000's please.

Yeah. They did put that min usage rule in for a reason. System abuse.

Mystery #6) We have a elite vet chat that none of you newbies know about. It is only for the elite vets who are still left and .. we're a dying breed so we have to stay together..sorry newbies you guys luck out.

Do you think it's cool to go to an OAP retirement home? Ok then I think you see my point.

Mystery #7) did u know Crown of thorn manipulates ppl and lies? Thanks.

Dude if he made you bend over in the shower those are YOUR demons to deal with. Spare us the information.

Mystery #8) Yeah I consider myself one of hte most influential players in Trenh Wars changing dueling leagues events and even transitionting into pro league and making it into the finals $ A quality player.

And how many of those games did you play for your Pro squad? Just link at Dingo this season .. even I could have won the league if I was in his situation.

Zloy $$ That link underlined looks like fagvetcareer but nm

**Bilbo** · 04-30-2003, 10:20 AM

You are still an idiot and now you are an idiot that is more worthless than Dillusion and Telcat put together. Shut up you fuckface.

**GuruMeditation** · 04-30-2003, 10:25 AM

Originally posted by Bilbo
You are still an idiot and now you are an idiot that is more worthless than Dillusion and Telcat put together. Shut up you fuckface.

I wouldn't go that far.

**Louis XV** · 04-30-2003, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by monkee
LOL @ kobey :eek:

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