Doesn't matter who wins honestly. Nobody will ever be happy with one or the other.
All politicians = crooks and liars
If you believe that there is an actual honest politician, regardless of party affiliation, then you're fooling yourself.
In a Capitalist based society and government...as to which we call a Democracy...what a farce, then you already know that it's all about making a profit and promising the voters everything in order to get elected.
The insurance/health care vote should not be left to the elected idiots, but make it a nationwide vote and let the actual people vote on the issue and put it to bed finally.
This should be done with most votes of this nature due to 99.9% of your politically elected hacks getting their palms greased with favors, monies and vacations.
The peoples vote is meaningless post elections. The torch gets passed to the lobbyist groups with their own personal money making schemes of which in many cases are opposites of everything that every elected political hack made a promise to stop during their campaigns.
It really does not matter who is in office...they all suck and are crooks and liars!
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Pete Doherty.Originally posted by Galleleo View PostWhat I want to know is, you have all these people hating on Obama, and hey, fine with me, I honestly don't give a shit either way, but what I am wondering is, who should have gotten it? I won't judge it, because I do not know enough to say if there is or isn't anyone else who deserves it more right now.
But for everyone hating on him, who should have won it?
If you can't answer that question, than stop being jealous.
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What I want to know is, you have all these people hating on Obama, and hey, fine with me, I honestly don't give a shit either way, but what I am wondering is, who should have gotten it? I won't judge it, because I do not know enough to say if there is or isn't anyone else who deserves it more right now.
But for everyone hating on him, who should have won it?
If you can't answer that question, than stop being jealous.
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the G-20 speech? Really? Where he boldface lied to the world and told them we had been doing everything to reduce spending and increase savings? Like cash for clunkers? Like the bailouts? Like the stimulus? Like the second stimulus that is being talked about right now? Like the interest rates which have almost hit zero?Originally posted by Squeezer View Postoh don't be obtuse. He has had some notable accomplishments toward brokering peaceful relations with the rest of the world. His speech at the G-20 summit, closing Guantanamo, signing a disarmament agreement with the Russians, helping to foster the Iranian green movement, etc. etc.
Whether those actions are worthy of a Nobel Prize is debatable, but he has taken some significant steps in correcting the course of the world's most powerful nation. For instance, the world has stopped hating us as much.
If people had actually saved money and cut spending, we would see a massive contraction, a depression. (this is something all economists agree on, the debate is about whether government policy can affect that)
That speech was the biggest travesty of his career. I disagree with Obama, but I have never seen him actually flagrantly lie like that.
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My letter of support for Obama won him both the election AND the nobel peace prize.
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you're arguing with a penguin.Originally posted by Squeezer View Postoh don't be obtuse. He has had some notable accomplishments toward brokering peaceful relations with the rest of the world. His speech at the G-20 summit, closing Guantanamo, signing a disarmament agreement with the Russians, helping to foster the Iranian green movement, etc. etc.
Whether those actions are worthy of a Nobel Prize is debatable, but he has taken some significant steps in correcting the course of the world's most powerful nation. For instance, the world has stopped hating us as much.
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there is no one in the history of the world more notable for peace than President Barack Hussein Obama (the first black president)
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oh don't be obtuse. He has had some notable accomplishments toward brokering peaceful relations with the rest of the world. His speech at the G-20 summit, closing Guantanamo, signing a disarmament agreement with the Russians, helping to foster the Iranian green movement, etc. etc.Originally posted by PaulOakenfold View Postclearly everyone that has done more for peace than me deserves a nobel peace prize.
ifriggen obama!
Whether those actions are worthy of a Nobel Prize is debatable, but he has taken some significant steps in correcting the course of the world's most powerful nation. For instance, the world has stopped hating us as much.
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clearly everyone that has done more for peace than me deserves a nobel peace prize.
ifriggen obama!
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Ladies and Gentlemen, the shadow government has brain washed the people responsible for awarding Obama the Nobel Peace Prize as a distraction to the inventor of inter-dimentional interim quantum space jumping travel. He is being held in a high-tech prison in Area 51 by the shadow government.
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This takes away from previous deserving winners. It’s a travesty that he is being awarded something just for popularity because as of 1 second ago we are still in Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq and other places with more soldiers on the way. Why not give him an Academy Award too…because obviously there is no substance behind that either.
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THEY (the new world order that controls the population's minds(people)).
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