Stupid Global Warming Fucktards

[Andy H.K.]

Venus is the second-closest planet to the Sun

Earth (or the Earth) is the third planet from the Sun

Or maybe thats why.. are you fucking serious here?

And Mercury is the closest one to the Sun.... Yet Venus's surface is still as hot as when Mercury's surface temperature is at its highest.

I believe we're all fucking serious here.

[saetep]

Anyways, this thread is kind of long for me to start reading all of it tonight, but I'll just put these links here.

http://www.heartland.org/policybot/r...l_warming.html

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2009/09/2...not-happening/

[kthx]

Yes, because since scientists lied about global warming they couldn't have possibly been lying about surface temperatures on two planets that we have only seen through telescopes.

Check this out

Pluto is so cold because Co2 gasses will not form on its surface to cause global warming because no humans live there, no because its far away from the sun. Because it actually would normally have the same temperature as Earth would otherwise.

[Vatican Assassin]

This just in...

[Fit of Rage]

Yes, because since scientists lied about global warming they couldn't have possibly been lying about surface temperatures on two planets that we have only seen through telescopes.

Check this out

Pluto is so cold because Co2 gasses will not form on its surface to cause global warming because no humans live there, no because its far away from the sun. Because it actually would normally have the same temperature as Earth would otherwise.

Some scientists are liars and crooks. Ergo, all scientists are liars and crooks. Get your Venus facts straight.

As for the telescopes remark, try this. And this. And this.

I don't know why any of you even bother with kthx anymore. He won't change his mind, regardless of any logic and reason you shake in his face.

[kthx]

Just like all conservatives hate Obama cause hes black i guess eh fit?

[Kolar]

Venus has been observed by more then telescopes in orbit or on Earth. Venus is also a good example of a run away green house effect, regardless of its proximity to the Sun Venus' atmosphere is more dense then that of Earth. So more heat is trapped driving the surface temperature far beyond what we believe life can tolerate and thrive in.

Even thought Pluto is much further from the Sun then both Venus and Earth to take in much energy, surface conditions are also effected by the fact that its orbit brings it closer to the Sun periodically. And because most of its outer surface is ice that ice melting and converting to gas also cools the planetoid further.

[kthx]

But we also don't know what the planets cores are made of so can't find out their polarities and true heat levels.

[Kolar]

You could say the same about Earth. Not even going that far plate tectonics are still a theory but a theory that tends to explain reality more often then not. We can't physically dig up the entire Earth to find every layer all the way to the core but we can use physical data and inferred data to come up with a model for the internal structure of Earth. For distant objects we can use observational data like an object's Albedo to figure out properties like temperature and also infrared imaging to see how much infrared waves they emit.

[kthx]

Actually I just watched this show the other day about how Hawaii was formed, and because the volcano shaft that produces the islands is so deep into the core of the earth the minerals that come out are sometimes minerals and composites from the core of earth, so we do have some idea anyways. But saying we know really anything about any other planet, hell even the moon is ridiculous to say the least. Especially being able to infer heat, density, and especially co2 layers causing damaging heat to said planet.

[Kolar]

Why is it ridiculous? What is this obsession about actually being there? If we went to Mars or back to the Moon humans there would still be using the same technology to read temperature and other properties. It will just be 100 times more expensive. We're not inferring the temperature of objects by measuring the amount of infrared energy they emit.

[kthx]

But it could be flawed science, and probably is flawed science.

[Kolar]

Now I make a comment pointing out that science isn't written in stone and can change with new information. Then Kthx makes some comment about how it's a religion and a flawed one at that.

End of thread.

[Epinephrine]

Yo the other day I had a BBQ and then I made some photocopies. The Earth didn't get warmer! In fact tonight was really cold. And it was RAINING.

Get your heads out of the sand people! Global cooling exists!

[Tone]

Venus has been observed by more then telescopes in orbit or on Earth. Venus is also a good example of a run away green house effect, regardless of its proximity to the Sun Venus' atmosphere is more dense then that of Earth. So more heat is trapped driving the surface temperature far beyond what we believe life can tolerate and thrive in.

Even thought Pluto is much further from the Sun then both Venus and Earth to take in much energy, surface conditions are also effected by the fact that its orbit brings it closer to the Sun periodically. And because most of its outer surface is ice that ice melting and converting to gas also cools the planetoid further.

its the thickness of the atmosphere many many times more pressure and mass than earth, and you should instead mention how all the planets in the solar system are changing along with Earth and they dont have human industry on them.