Why the Bible was created in the First Place. The Story Behind It

[zih]

Here is why...
Everything I am going to say is my views and my views only. Agree or disagree, it is your choice.

People created the Bible because they needed something to believe in. A long time ago, before the bible was made, they did not have any technology to explain things around them. There was no Isaac Newton or Copernicus and what not. There was no one smart enough to figure out how things worked the way they did. So in order to cope with what they experienced, they created religion. Where one "greater" being created the earth and he/she created all the land forms and what not, and created man and animal.

Now, we have evidence to prove the Bible wrong. Now we have proof of the Big Bang theory, evolution, and other scientific findings that totally disprove the Bible. Honestly, I do not know why people still believe in a tattered book that was written thousands and thousands of years ago. It was all created to explain the unexplained. The people back then did not have the privileged of knowing about the big bang, evolution, and what not. They only knew what was thought in their community. The only communication they could have between towns was if they traveled or a messenger brought it to them. So basically what I think is what happened, it that some guy in a town thought of all the idea in the Bible, then wrote it down, then made it into a book. Then he got a bunch of people to help him spread his "teachings"." Kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses. It was only to explain the unexplained and should not be used now. It is outdated and most things in it are wrong.

Long live science.

[gran guerrero]

Science hasn't necessarily explained everything. People want answers that aren't given, so they turn to the easier choice and fling themselves towards their nearest belief (If family and friends are all Christian, most likely you will become Christian). It's your nature and your environment that makes you who you are. Those who dare to question and challenge authority will see through the bullshit, but there's a certain plateau of thinking that is hard to surpass, so eventually some of those free thinkers would go back to believing in something different than what was given to them as a child. They will turn to New Age thinking, try meditation and quote from Buddha. Then they'll think it's bullshit again and the pattern repeats itself. Life is an experience, and everyone changes with it. Whatever works to make them happy and acceptable in their society will be the acceptable choice for the majority of mankind.

[Summa]

Here is why...
Everything I am going to say is my views and my views only. Agree or disagree, it is your choice.

People created the Bible because they needed something to believe in. A long time ago, before the bible was made, they did not have any technology to explain things around them. There was no Isaac Newton or Copernicus and what not. There was no one smart enough to figure out how things worked the way they did. So in order to cope with what they experienced, they created religion. Where one "greater" being created the earth and he/she created all the land forms and what not, and created man and animal.

Now, we have evidence to prove the Bible wrong. Now we have proof of the Big Bang theory, evolution, and other scientific findings that totally disprove the Bible. Honestly, I do not know why people still believe in a tattered book that was written thousands and thousands of years ago. It was all created to explain the unexplained. The people back then did not have the privileged of knowing about the big bang, evolution, and what not. They only knew what was thought in their community. The only communication they could have between towns was if they traveled or a messenger brought it to them. So basically what I think is what happened, it that some guy in a town thought of all the idea in the Bible, then wrote it down, then made it into a book. Then he got a bunch of people to help him spread his "teachings"." Kind of like Jehovah's Witnesses. It was only to explain the unexplained and should not be used now. It is outdated and most things in it are wrong.

Long live science.

You have bought into a mainstream conception that science is "at odds and in combat" with religion. It really isn't. The only issue that science has with religion is that religion asks for belief without proof, and science cannot comprehend such a thing.

Just because oral tradition can lead to exaggeration and a lack of knowledge can lead to speculation, and consequently inaccuracies; doesn't mean that the book should be discredited. Even more so, while the Bible acts as the source material, the majority of the Church's belief structure is no longer located within the Bible, it is located within the CCC. And if you have ever read the CCC, you will realize that it claims that almost all of the Old Testament, which is where the majority of people's "inaccuracies" are located, is essentially an inaccurate account that should only be taken for its spiritual and metaphorical value. And that value is actually quite immense. I am going to assume you live in a democratic or socialist society that probably operates on a constitution structure. That entire political structure was created by people and a line of thinking heavily influenced by Christian values. Christianity may not have value to you in terms of explaining the way the world is or how it came to be, but (radicals aside) it undeniably promotes upstanding values and "good" citizens over the course of its modern history.

However, addressing your "science proved this and that claims"; you're wrong. The primary tenet of Sir Francis Bacon's scientific method is that nothing is ever "proven". Just as Einsteinian relativity rocked the very foundations of Newtonian gravitational physics, everything can be challenged and found incorrect. That said, evolution is as close to scientific fact as it comes. However the big bang is an interesting case. It is a case where it is fairly certain that it can explain how our universe came to be, but it may not be a definite explanation of how all being came to be. That is to say, it has not found a way out of infinite regress. To put it in philosophical terms: if the big bang theory assumes that something and the negation of something came together and generated the universe, the potential being for the generation had to exist either interior or exterior to the actual being. If it was interior, then please show me where in the atom that a universe is generated from; and if it is exterior, then it is imposed by something. If it is imposed then it is created, etc -> infinite regress. Or at least that is the most common non-technical objection to big bang theory out there.

Idk why I am typing so much these past 3 days...need to go back into hiding.

[gran guerrero]

Idk why I am typing so much these past 3 days...need to go back into hiding.

Because it's been a while since we had one of these convo's here on this boreumz.

Btw what are you referring to when you said CCC? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.

[Ephemeral]

I would say that Science tells how we (humans, earth, universe, possibly multiverses) got here, while Faith(s) trys to explain why we are here.
eph

[Summa]

Because it's been a while since we had one of these convo's here on this boreumz.

Btw what are you referring to when you said CCC? I'm not familiar with this abbreviation.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

[Epinephrine]

The old testament was created when the Jews were captured by the Babylonians and they needed a way to write down their traditions which were oral before then.

The new testament was created sometime after the death of jesus (~100 years?) probably because someone realized it was a good idea to get all the oral stories in book form.

[Summa]

The old testament was created when the Jews were captured by the Babylonians and they needed a way to write down their traditions which were oral before then.

The new testament was created sometime after the death of jesus (~100 years?) probably because someone realized it was a good idea to get all the oral stories in book form.

The majority of the new testament was written approx 80 yrs after the death of Jesus by Paul of Tarsus, however The Gospel of Mark was written by Mark himself approx 36 years after the death of Jesus; which explains why it is the most human and rough of the three gospels. The gospels of Matthew and Luke were written just after the death of the Disciples, so it isn't unlikely to say they had direct influence, whereas the gospel of John was written around the same time as Paul wrote his portion of the New Testament, and is one of the furthest removed portions of the New Testament.

Why the fuck do I know this all? I am not even Christian.

[Summa]

sry for dblpost but for some reason i am not allowed to edit my post...i meant 4 gospels, not 3....i suck @ counting

[MaGi kOz]

Your gods are aliens and our ancestors were like children trying to best explain what they saw in flying air craft as the "Gods" coming down to us from the "heavens". Every religion in the entire world will seem to point back to the same thing. If anything, each religion was created by a different faction of aliens. Such as if there was primitive life on Mars and there became multiple opinions on how they should be handled by us so all these different groups of people go to Mars to try and provide the best possible influence. It only makes sense to combine all the beliefs in the world, including science, in order to come to the best understanding, baby. yah.

[Epinephrine]

Yeah Magi, I saw Prometheus yesterday, good movie.

[Celestial Jeddak]

God is where all animals came from. =)
We all must eventually leave obedience and gain independence.

[Scurvy]

well said summa, but the original post is absurd. Its like if telcat made a post saying "This is why I think that the holocaust occurred." Its not a matter of personal opinion, its a matter of historical fact and public record. You can't say "Some dude in an isolated village created the bible because Copernicus couldn't be messaged into town riding a coconut-toting swallow. But thats just my opinion, take it or leave it."

You also imply that the bible coincides with the introduction of organized religion. There are extensive lists from multiple reputable sources that can show you all the religions that pre-date christianity throughout various time periods/cultural hubs/geographical location. Not only did they pre-date christianity, many shared several of it's major attributes. The major themes of the bible were just another in a long list of religions that stemmed from pagan sun worship. That, in addition to the points that summa brought up, are the exact reason why your egotistical pontificating on the subject is not only unoriginal, but a vain, pointless activity.

[Scurvy]

Its been like three weeks. Somebody validate this thought.

[gran guerrero]

I would but you hate me