Not a good idea to eat meat

[roxxkatt]

cows are hollow and live at the center of the moon
just watch this informational video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vJiSSAMNWw

[Ephemeral]

I do not understand the ethics of saying you don’t eat animals but will eat plants. Plants are living things too; even worse is that humans eat plants while they are still alive. Is it not more ethical to eat dead animals than live plants? And is it not more unethical to rip the sex organs off live plants (fruit/seeds) eat them than to consume part of a dead animal?

Tone it is obvious to even a first year psych student that you have a huge need to be ‘different’ than everyone else. If everyone only ate plants you would be posting that we should be only eating animals. If everyone believed that aliens were walking among us you would be posting that aliens were not really there.

It is sad that you cannot see that the books, web sites, and links are just money-making vehicles that these people use to play into your mental issues. The only issue(s) I see in your posts is that these people are playing your ass by getting you to spread the word for their self gain.
eph

[Tone]

I do not understand the ethics of saying you don’t eat animals but will eat plants. Plants are living things too; even worse is that humans eat plants while they are still alive. Is it not more ethical to eat dead animals than live plants? And is it not more unethical to rip the sex organs off live plants (fruit/seeds) eat them than to consume part of a dead animal?

Tone it is obvious to even a first year psych student that you have a huge need to be ‘different’ than everyone else. If everyone only ate plants you would be posting that we should be only eating animals. If everyone believed that aliens were walking among us you would be posting that aliens were not really there.

It is sad that you cannot see that the books, web sites, and links are just money-making vehicles that these people use to play into your mental issues. The only issue(s) I see in your posts is that these people are playing your ass by getting you to spread the word for their self gain.
eph

I give this post an F, its the worst post in the thread so far. Every single statement in this reply is a logical fallacy. This reply looks like satire but Ephermeral is serious. That is how bad it is. Its so bad, it cant even be replied to directly to make the corrections.

[Jones]

My guess would be that you feel bad for me for the wrong reasons. All i did was say not eating meat is more ethical and the conditions are very evil for the animals, .

this. however becoming a vegetarian won't solve this. there's too much money at stake

[Tone]

I like TelCat, the best poster here. But the idea that being vegetarian is throwing away millions of years of climbing the food chain is just an random idiosyncratic meaningless reason. Think about the reason and you can see its meaningless. What does it mean that millions of years were spent climbing the food chain as a motive for meat? Nothing. It means nothing. It has no meaning in terms of a motive. If anything, the only true motives to eat meat are weak ones. One is taste and like of it. Another is for Heme-based iron and protein. thats about it. But, what is the cost of it?

animals suffering miserable evil conditions then killed,

plus waste of space that could produce more food to feed all the world's starving,

plus health issues,

plus meat is the most disgusting thing in terms of contaminants. Everything can be contaminated with bad things including plant products, but meat is the worse in terms of things like rat poop, growth hormones and other stuff.

Its very disturbing how the aminals are treated, like hens being packed together and tortured with sensory deprivation to stimulate more egg-laying, so why not buy the expensive eggs called Cage-Free which are also fed better feed?

The problem with Anti Animal Cruelty activists is that they act like they only care about animals and not people. Like have no empathy for suffering of people but do for animals, and think animals are above people and people are a virus of the earth, very dehumanizing. Theres that one thats like 10 minutes long of tragedies of the Iraq war, and all the comments are about the soilder throwing a dog off a cliff, but not anything else in the video, they only comment about that because very dehumanizing and care more for animals. Im against this, its wrong and bad.

We should care about both human suffering and animal suffering and much of it is easily preventable.

No, eating plants is not the same or worse than eating animals because animals have a nervous system. People are just pretending and making-up pretend counterpoints and excuses I do wish however we could live like alleged mythological yogi masters who can live from only breathing in chi.

My Ex became a vegetarian because I was. I did not ask her to or say much anything about it. Then i said theres no need to do that. Buit she did so anyway. I only have recommendations and make a vegetarian post because there is nothing to do. But these are true facts, and the other poster is incorrect that i would just post the opposite of what anyone else posts as the motive for posting, thats what other people do, not me. Hes wrong when he says if everyone was a vegetarian i would make a meat eating post. Hes just making that stuff up as made-up counterpoints. Im against things that are suffering & evil. But, as a recommendation and no activism.

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[D1st0rt]

For every animal you don't eat, I'll eat three.

Your move.

[Crescent Seal]

chicken 2 good nigga

[roxxkatt]

I like TelCat, the best poster here. But the idea that being vegetarian is throwing away millions of years of climbing the food chain is just an random idiosyncratic meaningless reason. Think about the reason and you can see its meaningless. What does it mean that millions of years were spent climbing the food chain as a motive for meat? Nothing. It means nothing. It has no meaning in terms of a motive. If anything, the only true motives to eat meat are weak ones. One is taste and like of it. Another is for Heme-based iron and protein. thats about it. But, what is the cost of it?

animals suffering miserable evil conditions then killed,

plus waste of space that could produce more food to feed all the world's starving,

plus health issues,

plus meat is the most disgusting thing in terms of contaminants. Everything can be contaminated with bad things including plant products, but meat is the worse in terms of things like rat poop, growth hormones and other stuff.

Its very disturbing how the aminals are treated, like hens being packed together and tortured with sensory deprivation to stimulate more egg-laying, so why not buy the expensive eggs called Cage-Free which are also fed better feed?

The problem with Anti Animal Cruelty activists is that they act like they only care about animals and not people. Like have no empathy for suffering of people but do for animals, and think animals are above people and people are a virus of the earth, very dehumanizing. Theres that one thats like 10 minutes long of tragedies of the Iraq war, and all the comments are about the soilder throwing a dog off a cliff, but not anything else in the video, they only comment about that because very dehumanizing and care more for animals. Im against this, its wrong and bad.

We should care about both human suffering and animal suffering and much of it is easily preventable.

No, eating plants is not the same or worse than eating animals because animals have a nervous system. People are just pretending and making-up pretend counterpoints and excuses I do wish however we could live like alleged mythological yogi masters who can live from only breathing in chi.

My Ex became a vegetarian because I was. I did not ask her to or say much anything about it. Then i said theres no need to do that. Buit she did so anyway. I only have recommendations and make a vegetarian post because there is nothing to do. But these are true facts, and the other poster is incorrect that i would just post the opposite of what anyone else posts as the motive for posting, thats what other people do, not me. Hes wrong when he says if everyone was a vegetarian i would make a meat eating post. Hes just making that stuff up as made-up counterpoints. Im against things that are suffering & evil. But, as a recommendation and no activism.

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I would give this post an F.
It was so bad that I didn't even bother reading it, as all posts by T0ne are a logical fallacy.

[Tone]

This correct thread is causing Psychological Denial & Cognitive Dissonance. There are people who agree with me but cant say so, they are protecting their reputation which is fine. I now consider this thread concluded.

[Zeebu]

bacon tastes too good

[paradise!]

turtles n cum

[Crescent Seal]

[Tone]

Vegan Raw Food eater at age 71

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdeC3OJJIzA

[Zeebu]

[Pressure]

It is common sense to not eat meat because it is healthier to do so and because the conditions by which land animal meat is produce are deplorable. There are non-meat sources of complete protein and Vitamin B-12 & zinc can be gotten from cheap supplementation. The way meat is produce is not only evil but includes far more contaminants than vegetables including even growth hormones. Psychological Denial causes some people to invent a "debate" and that there are "two sides" to it, when really it is indisputable that eating meat is not a good idea. I recommend becoming a vegetarian and visiting this small website:

http://britishmeat.com

enough