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  • Lilac and Strawberries

    I was sitting at a Tim Horton's tonight, just jotting stuff into my notebook as I often do, when I had an idea. I don't know where to go with this, and thought "why not post what I've got and see what people think?". Usually I'd give this to one of my friends to look at, but it's late and I wanted some input before I lose this groove. Have a read.
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    “What’s that you’re working on?” she asked him.

    “Hmm? Uh, you mean this?” Daniel stammered, looking up from the
    pencil-scratched notebook he cradled in his hands.

    “Yeah, that. Can I see?”

    Before he could answer, the spiral-bound notebook was pulled from
    his hands. Natural instinct raised his right hand to grab it back, but inborn
    clumsiness only made him drop his pencil in the sudden motion. A mild
    protest died on his lips and he submitted to the woman whose eyes
    now scanned his sketchy handwriting. Instead, he reached for his coffee,
    hoping that its warmth would sooth his nerves.

    “It’s just something I’ve been working on,” he explained as the bitter coffee
    left its signature after-taste in his mouth.

    She mumbled a reply, her light blue eyes continuing their movement across
    the page. “What’s this word?”

    “Hmm? Oh, um…” He leaned over to look at the page. “’Desert’. Sorry, my
    e’s and my c’s look alike.” When he had leaned over, he caught a brief hint of
    her scent, a combination of lilac and strawberries.

    As her eyes continued their downward trail down the page, Daniel looked her
    over briefly. Her dark blond hair flowed evenly from the part above her left
    eyebrow with a few strands curving with her pale forehead. Her lightly
    glossed lips parted slightly as she slowly tapped her left thumbnail against
    her lower lip, a sign of a former nail-biter. The other fingers of her
    raised fist pulled tightly on the cuff of her sweatshirt, stretching the sleeve at
    the elbow. Tight black pants shaped her calves as her ankles lay crossed
    above a pair of white sneakers.

    Her lips curled into a slight smile as she gave a small chuckle.

    “’Made the mistake of dying a couple of decades too soon’?” Daniel quoted from
    memory.

    She nodded in reply and shifted her hair over and behind her ears.

    “Good,” he thought. “She’s near the end.”

    At last, her eyes reached the end of the page. She glanced briefly at a
    paragraph near the top before meeting Daniel’s expectant glance.

    “Looks interesting so far. Is this going to be a short story, or a novel?”

    “I… hadn’t really figured that out yet. I just had a general idea and started
    writing before I forget it. I don’t know where I’ll go with it next.” He paused
    apologetically, “it’s only a rough draft, an introduction to lay some
    groundwork.”

    “Oh, I know. I only asked because it sounds like an intro. You’re providing a
    lot of background right away and it looks like you’re setting up some
    subtexts.”

    “Right. Um. Do you mind if I ask you something?”

    “Shoot.”

    “Do I know you?”

  • #2
    Actually, I am a writer...well, aspiring, pffsha, whatever my texts may look like in here, now what exactly are you looking for? Comments on the writing style or mistakes or whaaat?

    EDIT- Here is an exerpt from the begining of one of mine.

    Unedited, not worked on in a while..lol..too many damnit..
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    My early childhood ranks as one of the worst in many a sector, not to say I didn’t have knowledge of many children much worse off then myself or who didn‘t survive theirs. I was born on Becki which to the rest of the Universe was known as Antiaris, the premiere and through altered plans only prison planet to ever exist in human space. Two and a half billion souls resided on Antiaris, approximately two billion of them prisoners. The rest of the ‘citizens’ of the planet were a mix of smugglers, mercenaries, correctional staff and support units, as well as a host of other miscreants. The worst off in all the chaos and brutality of the place were the children, especially the children of the prisoners and natives of the planet. I was both.
    My mother was shipped to Becki, which was also the name of the native people, for “open rebellion against civil authority, assault on Republican Guards, and truancy of reeducation camp #342 on Gotha, sector Fourteen” or so the official reports I acquired stated. She always told me that she had just “Joined the wrong party”. I never really understood that until I was about thirteen and she was long dead.
    My father was a native of Becki, a hard man who was made harsher by the environment with in which he had to live. Becki is a huge planet, one of the reasons it was chosen as a prototype prison facility, and was sparsely populated before it was renamed to Antiaris and the prisoners started arriving. The Becki, before the arrivals, were a people much like the Mongols of the long discarded Terra. They were a group of nomadic people broken up into many clans, tribes, family units and their respective hierarchies. My father was just coming of age when the planet was fully converted. Like many of his generation he embraced the change. New technology, a hodgepodge of exciting and different ways of life and means of living all worked to attract him and hundreds of thousands like him. Eventually these naïve youth learned the harsh reality of what their world had become and like most humans they adapted to fit this new reality. I never had to adapt though, I was born in the gutters of a planet spilling over with rogues and murderers and when my parents died I found my own way through the narrow alleys of depravation and human cruelty.
    Last edited by SnallTrippin; 02-10-2004, 02:02 AM.
    _-Tri/p_

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    • #3
      I just wanted some general input on my piece, maybe to help me flesh out what direction to take next.

      But dude, that's really poor form of you to post your own excerpt there. Sure, you can share your writing too, but not in a thread with my piece's title, and definitely not as the very first reply before other people have a chance to respond to mine. That just isn't done.

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      • #4
        I think it's a little too short for me to give any quality criticism on. I think you've set up Daniel to be interesting. So far, I have a lot of unanswered questions about the woman, but thats expected.

        I'd say scratch the end where he asks if he knows her. I dunno, it seems kinda like you're trying to be funny.

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        • #5
          no, if he were trying to be funny, he'd replace "Do I know you?" with "Bang."

          then you'd have the makings of an ABC sitcom.
          plopp> im not a newbie ok!! im a butterfly waiting to come out of his coon!

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          • #6
            Give me some more. I don't want to comment just yet. :]
            jasonofabitch loves!!!!

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Troll King
              I just wanted some general input on my piece, maybe to help me flesh out what direction to take next.

              But dude, that's really poor form of you to post your own excerpt there. Sure, you can share your writing too, but not in a thread with my piece's title, and definitely not as the very first reply before other people have a chance to respond to mine. That just isn't done.
              heh i expected some comments and when i saw he laid out a story of his own i too felt there was some injustice being done. Snall the purpose of the thread was so users read TK's and focus on a response, rather than fog their memories with whatever articificial jargon you happen to have put together for show and tell.

              anyhow, i don't really have much to comment, but rather a possibility for direction. Personally i don't do much writing, outside of the academic environment, but regardless:

              I think the setup is an interesting one, it has good early character development of the guy, and kind of creates a mystery around the woman. This draws the reader into wanting to know more about her. This is good, you have a chain to pull on.

              As for the last line, you could take it out if you feel it was a joke as mentioned by others, but i think there's an alternate path that employs that line as an integral part. Let's say the two individuals had in fact never met. This leaves the question of why he would ask if he knows her. It could be that he's just asking to question her openness toward him when they are complete strangers, or... she could very strongly resemble a character he depicted (not solely by appearance, but rather some other attribute that can only be identified through knowing someone) in one of his earlier writings.

              This character could have some special significance to him, or some event that related to his real life, leading him to have an overly curious attitude toward this woman. He would then follow a path to satisfy both his and the reader's curiosity. The unravelling of the original significance of the woman could be a "deep dark secret" about himself, which he inadvertedly expressed through his work.

              I don't know, random thought on a Monday morning. Anything to avoid starting work .
              i'm bored

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              • #8
                Moo? Yes...sorry...I feel so wrong...lol, I didn't ask for comments on my shit, I was just showing some...anyway, let me go cry for my lost innocence...
                _-Tri/p_

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                • #9
                  I am not a professional writer, but I guess, I, like many others, qualify for a quasi-professional reader.

                  It is a interesting reading. But I would like to know about the intention of this short story: is it aiming at revealing the unexpected ending and give the story of a flavour of unexpectedness? Or is it about sexual tension/attraction between Daniel and the girl?

                  If it is aiming at describing some sort of relationship about Daniel and the girl, then the ending ruined everything you had written before it.

                  If it's about an unexpected ending, then you have written too much about the girl herself and neglected to develop an ambigious relationship bettween Daniel and the girl, which is needed to give rise to the unexpectedness of the fact that Daniel does not know the girl.

                  If you aimed at the both, then unlikely you would succeed at either.

                  But good writing, I see potentials


                  EDIT: this story is too short to have multiple aims, so concentrate on one thing.
                  Last edited by TelC@t; 02-10-2004, 12:02 PM.
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                  • #10
                    Re: Lilac and Strawberries

                    It sounds pretty good so far TK. It does the main thing of getting a reader's attention/interest quickly. Only thing I'd say is it seems a bit heavy on the adjectives for my taste. Less is more as far as adjectives are concerned unless they're critical to the story. They don't add to what a reader would imagine anyway and they don't help the flow.

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                    • #11
                      you better listen to telcat, troll king. i think she knows her shit
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                      • #12
                        There may be some confusion here... this story isn't finished yet, it's just the first page or so. As of right now, there ISN'T any more, but there will be. I'll probably work on this some more later and post an update tonight.

                        No, the two people do not know each other. That's why we only know the guy's name but not hers, and why she's the one who's getting the long description.

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                        • #13
                          Re: Lilac and Strawberries

                          i liked almost all of it. i didn't like the sentence

                          'as the bitter coffee left its signature after-taste in his mouth."

                          i'm very tired while writing this reply, so forgive me if my assessment seems way off base. to me, it seems the description of the bitter coffee is too plain. when compared to the sentence describing her scent of lilac and strawberries, it's like seeing a weed next to a rose. i know you're capable of describing the bitterness in a more interesting way. perhaps this is a dumb detail to point out, but for some reason when reading your post, the description stuck out to me like a sore thumb. maybe it's just me.

                          i very much liked this part:

                          “Hmm? Oh, um…” He leaned over to look at the page. “’Desert’. Sorry, my
                          e’s and my c’s look alike.” When he had leaned over, he caught a brief hint of
                          her scent, a combination of lilac and strawberries.


                          it seems so natural and familiar. pleasantly nostalgic. it seems like a situation we've all been in before, and described with the romance and mystery of feeling slightly vulnerable next to someone bold and attractive whom we don't know very well, but would like to get to know a bit better.

                          i agree with everyone else, the last sentance should be cut, or changed. even from what little i know of Daniel (assuming he's the protaganist), it's hard to believe he'd allow himself to be that passive with an attractive and bold stranger without first having some kind of knowledge of who she is.

                          overall, it makes me want to get to know both of these two characters better, and discover what kind of journey they are going to have together. from your set up, there's some sort of mutual attraction, on some sort of level. they both seem intelligent, he seems a little shy or maybe even insecure. she seems bold. good job.

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                          • #14
                            I'd be interested in reading more.


                            that's my only input at this time.
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                            • #15
                              Update

                              Okay, I've sketched together the barebones of what's going to happen to this unexpected pair. I'm still working on it but I don't want to post any spoilers until I get further along.

                              I understand that there might be some confusion about that "do I know you line?". I wanted something that surprises the reader, shaking his initial perception of the relationship between these two people. On further thought, I think the line as it reads is a bit too antagonistic, and can be read as sounding a bit snide. I want Daniel to be a passive character. He's good at creating characters but not so good at talking to real ones. The line is a bit too forward for him. These two do not know each other, and I wanted a line that expresses his surprise at this strange but lovely young lady's audacity, but also at the fact that a lovely young lady is talking to him in the first place.

                              Perhaps something like "have we met?" would be better, but that sounds a bit curt to me.

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