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  • I've got beef with this slow packetloss stuff.

    I've read Guano's explanation of slow packetloss. Check it out here if you haven't already.

    Frankly, I'm sick of missing out on games in ?go base because of slow packetloss. Since implementing a check for this rather loosely defined statistic into the newer revisions of MatchBot, I haven't noticed any difference in the game. The truly laggy players are still as laggy as ever. There are still eats. There are still those guys who spike and jump all over the place. The only people being punished by slow packetloss are dialup users. Naturally, dialup being the slowest connection you can get, slow packetloss is going to be most prevalent for those on a 56k. It's just not fair to single out that particular demographic of the player base.

    I've played SubSpace going on eight years now. A majority of those eight years I've been on the same dialup connection. I had average pings of 250ms or so when the server was in Finland. I have average pings of 130ms or so now that the server is in the US. I rarely spike. My packetloss, both C2S and S2C, rarely climbs above 0.1%. I rarely, if ever, hear anyone complaining that I'm laggy. And yet, despite all of this, I'm sitting in spec game after game because of this slow packetloss nonsense.

    I don't see how checking slow packetloss is helping at all. It's only hurting honest players who unfortunately don't have a high speed connection available to them. I'd like to hear from Guano or Myth on this issue. I'd like to know if anything is going to be changed in the bots before TWL starts up. I'd like to know if they're going to refine the formula they're using in the bots because I don't think it's doing the job it was intended to do. At the very least, I'd like to know why the limit, 3.0%, is so damn low?

    I find it very unfair that this slow packetloss stuff, something that I've never had issue with in eight years of flying the spaceships, has suddenly been deemed a statistic that has to be regulated. Honestly, I have not seen it doing any good. Yeah, of course I'm speaking out primarily because I'm being affected, but there's a bigger picture to my complaint. We got by just fine for a good long time without worrying about slow packetloss. Why do we need to worry about it now?
    jasonofabitch loves!!!!

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    Just a side note: I've stayed in a ?go base game with 12.0% ploss and 1000 ms+ for approximately 3 minutes before I got specced.

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    • #3
      I feel you Jason. Although Ive only been playing for about half as much time as you have been this slow packetloss is a new thing to me too

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      • #4
        I'm with you on this Jason, my connection does the same thing.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Jason
          I've read Guano's explanation of slow packetloss. Check it out here if you haven't already.

          Frankly, I'm sick of missing out on games in ?go base because of slow packetloss. Since implementing a check for this rather loosely defined statistic into the newer revisions of MatchBot, I haven't noticed any difference in the game. The truly laggy players are still as laggy as ever. There are still eats. There are still those guys who spike and jump all over the place. The only people being punished by slow packetloss are dialup users. Naturally, dialup being the slowest connection you can get, slow packetloss is going to be most prevalent for those on a 56k. It's just not fair to single out that particular demographic of the player base.

          I've played SubSpace going on eight years now. A majority of those eight years I've been on the same dialup connection. I had average pings of 250ms or so when the server was in Finland. I have average pings of 130ms or so now that the server is in the US. I rarely spike. My packetloss, both C2S and S2C, rarely climbs above 0.1%. I rarely, if ever, hear anyone complaining that I'm laggy. And yet, despite all of this, I'm sitting in spec game after game because of this slow packetloss nonsense.

          I don't see how checking slow packetloss is helping at all. It's only hurting honest players who unfortunately don't have a high speed connection available to them. I'd like to hear from Guano or Myth on this issue. I'd like to know if anything is going to be changed in the bots before TWL starts up. I'd like to know if they're going to refine the formula they're using in the bots because I don't think it's doing the job it was intended to do. At the very least, I'd like to know why the limit, 3.0%, is so damn low?

          I find it very unfair that this slow packetloss stuff, something that I've never had issue with in eight years of flying the spaceships, has suddenly been deemed a statistic that has to be regulated. Honestly, I have not seen it doing any good. Yeah, of course I'm speaking out primarily because I'm being affected, but there's a bigger picture to my complaint. We got by just fine for a good long time without worrying about slow packetloss. Why do we need to worry about it now?
          HEY IM WITH YA MAN! Im on cable and i get about 20 ms .1 .1 and today i was being spec'd for "slow packetloss" in .?go base. Yet i see ppl with 250-300+ ping flying and spiking around stayin in game. Obviosly ur intent was good, but its not stopping the laggin any, u still have the laggiest ppl in game, al ur doin is making ppl sitout for some stupid reason.
          _o_2NASRALLAH

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          • #6
            S2C 18%
            Last time I did a ?packetloss the command didn't even work for me Talk about ploss
            I don't know how to put this but I'm kind of a big deal...

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            • #7
              I don't like slow packet loss either.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by Desperate
                I don't like slow packet loss either.
                Yep, its bull...remove it from ?go base, thanks.
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                • #9
                  I agree that there are way more laggier players than jason not being specced in ?go base with the new bots.
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                  • #10
                    Yes. Was a good try to get the laggers out, but it failed miserably and was let out into the decent honest players getting specced.
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                    • #11
                      Well, it's good to see I have lots of support in this. I was afraid not many others felt the same way, and I was going to end up shit out of luck. So then, Myth or Guano, pop in here and let me know what's up! :]
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                      • #12
                        I think slow packetloss is good. It keeps laggy people out.


                        Just kidding Jason, slow packetloss licks balls. Get rid of it, before it gets rid of us (some Terminator 3 type shit).
                        Mr 12 inch wonder

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                        • #13
                          I hate getting specced for a stat I can't even see.

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                          • #14
                            yeah man, like wth.. Im on DSL, and like, I get 30ms and 0.1, 0.0, and Im always specced.. I agree with Jason, fix this shyte up.
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                            • #15
                              This should only be the beginning. I see more laggy people that need to be put in spec!
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