custom subspace covid masks.

[kthx]

And I honestly think not rushing everyone to a doctor is a good thing, even the dipshits wearing masks at stores lower them with their hands to sniff fruit and then grab around a pile of them to pick the ones they want. Same at hospitals and elsewhere I'm sure. People in general are idiots and the masks likely give a false sense of security while giving a surface that's constantly touched to easily spread the virus.

[kthx]

I would rather have block chain voting online over mail in voting. There was plenty of stories almost every election year about people "helping" confused seniors vote for the candidate they want, or military voting ballots being lost. Even having Republican or Democrat ballots for primaries being trashed.

[the_paul]

The virus is supposedly worse for Asians due to a genetic marker called Ace-2 if I remember correctly, you would have to add that into the equation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

Why didn't we have the same issues when this happened? I doubt that within 11 years that we couldn't have done the same thing while the swine flu was happening right? Why didn't we constantly hear about Obama's failures to handle that? I'm not saying covid isn't real or even potentially serious but this narrative over covid is definitely political in nature and pushed to destroy an economy before the election, and to try to force mail in voting which is easier to manipulate. In fact I believe the postal worker union just endorsed Biden.

Mail in voting isn't easier to manipulate. There have been 0 legitimate studies that have concluded mail in voting is easier to manipulate than in person voting. I have exclusively voted by mail in my life, same with all my friends and family, nobody has ever raised any issues. I agree the process shouldn't be rushed, but it should absolutely be explored nationally. Forcing people to vote in person on 1 specific day that isn't even a holiday or anything is dumb as fuck, pandemic or not. Nothing beats being able to sit down with my ballot and look everything up and vote right there without having to go wait in line with a notebook on a work day just to try and vote.

Theres no conspiracy with the postal union, come on now. Apart from the fact that unions have generally been Democratic (although maybe less so recently), Trump has spent a good amount of time blasting and threatening USPS. No shit they endorsed Biden.

I was younger for H1N1 so I wasn't as aware, but Obama benefited from W's obsession with pandemics and the formation of a pandemic response team, which no longer exists. I don't recall Obama calling H1N1 a political hoax or talk about jobs reports while the death toll climbs either. That's not a good look. The fact that the American health care system deters people from seeing their doctor means we should have been taking this pandemic more seriously than most, not writing it off as a political hoax and wasting time

[kthx]

The virus is supposedly worse for Asians due to a genetic marker called Ace-2 if I remember correctly, you would have to add that into the equation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_swine_flu_pandemic

Why didn't we have the same issues when this happened? I doubt that within 11 years that we couldn't have done the same thing while the swine flu was happening right? Why didn't we constantly hear about Obama's failures to handle that? I'm not saying covid isn't real or even potentially serious but this narrative over covid is definitely political in nature and pushed to destroy an economy before the election, and to try to force mail in voting which is easier to manipulate. In fact I believe the postal worker union just endorsed Biden.

[the_paul]

130k for a planet of 10 billion during a global "pandemic" where largely those who would die from the flu anyways are dying.

130k in the United States, we're around 370 million. I don't dive too deep into global information because it's harder to know what to believe, for me anyway. Without looking into it, I'd imagine flu numbers are down as a combination of being similar symptoms to COVID, and due to the effect of lockdowns, social distancing, and mask wearing. I don't know the numbers offhand though, I'd have to take a dive into that

[kthx]

130k for a planet of 10 billion during a global "pandemic" where largely those who would die from the flu anyways are dying.

[kthx]

Yeah it's a huge joke, viruses tend to mutate towards being less lethal anyways. A virus that kills it's own doesn't survive long. And 100k dead seems like a lot but the flu kills as many every year if not more. Are flu deaths down by any chance?

[the_paul]

If 65% of cases in 91% of death are from those 65 or older why would any of us be worried about wearing a mask unless you were going to be around old people. And I really doubt their majority of the people at the rally we're 65 or older so it really makes no sense to blame that for a rise in cases.

There's more to this virus than just death toll, although I would say 130,000 deaths and counting is certainly something to take seriously on its own. I keep hearing about how nobody needs to worry because unless you're old or have a preexisting condition, you'll survive. Conservative estimates put 22% of the world's population as having a preexisting condition, so that mentality seems foolish to me. No argument that the virus is particularly deadly to older people though.

The fact is we still don't really know shit about this virus. Oregon is now reporting that the demographic rising fastest in number of infections is 0-10, so now we can't say children almost never get it. Nobody is sure how effective antibodies end up being, and the antibody test (at least at first) had an error rate approaching 40%. Statistics say this thing isn't going anywhere, especially because the states and countries proudest of not taking the virus seriously are now, in general, the hotbeds. I think calling this some election year hoax is overestimating how important this president is to a massive extent.

[kthx]

If 65% of cases in 91% of death are from those 65 or older why would any of us be worried about wearing a mask unless you were going to be around old people. And I really doubt their majority of the people at the rally we're 65 or older so it really makes no sense to blame that for a rise in cases.

[the_paul]

theres as also plenty of stories like those from days after it happened. On top of that statistics are skewed due to every positive test being counted as a new infection even if they say isolate and test one person for 10 days. That's 10 cases counted, not to mention the testing itself uses a flawed testing mechanism and is highly inaccurate. Also if a hospital says that someone died from covid they receive extra money from the government for handling it. Have you seen any charts on pneumonia deaths recently?

I'm not sure what your picture is supposed to show, the news that Trump staffers tested positive came out either the day before the event or the morning of, I know Trump was briefed about it en route to Tulsa. As for the tests themselves, I haven't heard that the actual coronavirus test is inaccurate, but that it is hard to give it a percentage of accuracy. I've heard the antibody tests are essentially dogshit though, maybe that's changed recently idk. I keep hearing that doctors are skewing results to get more funding, but every single doctor and person in healthcare says that that story is absolutely horseshit, at least around here. ICU hours are billed the same here (according to my BIL), so it doesn't make any difference what they write up as far as equipment used or cause of death, they have no reason to lie about it. I think the extra payment was specifically for patients on Medicare anyway, so that eliminates ~85% of the population.

[kthx]

I mean there were protests all over the country starting, what, 5 weeks ago? Over half of the states in the country are seeing record high daily cases currently. 2+2 = 4

Also:

theres as also plenty of stories like those from days after it happened. On top of that statistics are skewed due to every positive test being counted as a new infection even if they say isolate and test one person for 10 days. That's 10 cases counted, not to mention the testing itself uses a flawed testing mechanism and is highly inaccurate. Also if a hospital says that someone died from covid they receive extra money from the government for handling it. Have you seen any charts on pneumonia deaths recently?

[the_paul]

I don't believe him, a virus with a 7 to 14 day incubation period causes a spike in virus cases days after a political rally but the news strangely doesn't mention anything during commie faggot rallies?

I mean there were protests all over the country starting, what, 5 weeks ago? Over half of the states in the country are seeing record high daily cases currently. 2+2 = 4

Also:

[kthx]

t_p a government shill...dont believe him, wark! go no mask bro.

I don't believe him, a virus with a 7 to 14 day incubation period causes a spike in virus cases days after a political rally but the news strangely doesn't mention anything during commie faggot rallies?

[Roger Rabbit]

the only acceptable masks for subspace are those with dickholes in them

[paradise!]

t_p a government shill...dont believe him, wark! go no mask bro.