Racism,

[Troll King]

I agree. I me can call gemfire the word "azn" Like "Hey gemfire u azn whats up?" But i cant call Cape the word "paki" like "hey cape u paki whats up?" I think its the same exact thing, especialy since cape is really from pakistan.

Why can someone say "stfu cig ur from germany" (example) but i'll get warned if i say "stfu <person> ur from africa" Sure we know what its meant as, but who says im not offended by being called german or something like that. Why is the "n1g" word have so many things being reported when there are barely any for other words.

I think callin someone "azn" is the same exact thing as callin a black guy a "n1g" and so on.

In ur case, i think u are overreacting to something stupid. If u would just report him and not show him u care he probably wouldnt do anything else.

There's a difference between just saying "What's up, azn?" or "What's up N**?" and what Link was quoted as saying in the first post. There's also a difference between firing off a one-line racist comment and what here appears to be a continuous action. The old standby "just ignore him" excuse might work if it's a random heat of the moment event that doesn't continue, but in this situation, you can't say the same thing. It's the same as teamkilling, for example. If someone tk's you and you ?cheater him right away, but he doesn't tk anyone anymore, then yes, you are overreacting and you should have moved on with it. But if he's repeatedly teamkilling then you should report him and hopefully get something done about it. Now substitute "teamkilling" with "making racist comments" and the situation should not be treated any differently.

A lot of people also try to make the excuse that someone isn't really a racist, he's just saying stuff to piss people off. What I don't understand is how that makes any difference. I mean, again, if you apply the same motive towards other rules, say lag cheating, you'll see how silly it is. If you accept the above excuse that he wasn't trying to be racist, he's just trying to annoy someone, then someone can also justify lag cheating by saying: "I'm not doing it to win this game, I'm just doing it to annoy RandomPlayerName01 until he gets eliminated".

[Lofty]

You can also imagine that Link is the sort of kid with a baseball cap and gold chains singing the lyrics to 2pac shouting YO HE'S STILL ALIVE. - dimboy2

Laugh

I think hes saying the n word gets more attention from certain mods than racism against asians or other races. Ive seen someone use the n word in-game and get three warnings at once, yet it takes longer(or maybe seems so) for other racism cases to get warned, which could also be any number of reasons, of course im just assuming thats what hes talking about. - Gemfire

That's because this society is brainwashed with mindless political pacification

Although it is kind of refreshing to see some people in this thread indirectly waking up to that truth to an extent

[Cig Smoke]

Ya i realize saying that isnt the same troll, but i hear ppl using 'azn" as a downgrade just like "n*g" is, but nothing is done for that. Im just saying some things are overlooked bc it isnt the african american race they are talking about. I think every race, including white should be treated the same, and unfortunatly it isnt.

I also know u cant ignore him for multiple lines, but i imagine if he would of just ignored him from the 1st line then they would of stopped. Those are like the "bullies" in school. If u dont show them that something affects u then they wont keep doing it.

[Dim]

Theres my point and his to some extent 8/13 are variations of the n-word, thats more attention given to the n word than any other - all racist words should be treated the same.

I'm afraid that PubBot is using 8/13 variations purely because there are so many different ways to be racist against black people, one i can think of for jews and thats it there <-. Asians, I wouldn't know and with any other race of people eg muslims, they only really have a few names and they are hardly ever used.

It makes sense to look for more N-words since they're used more.

[Cig Smoke]

If 8 of 13 are just for the N word tho that leaves only 5 for al other races. I dunno how many races there are in the world bc i dont care to take the time to find out, but i garentee there is more then 5 other words for the combine races. 2 off the top of my head for white ppl are "whitey/cracker" and thats just for whites. for jews there are "jewbag, jewish, jew, jewdirt" basicaly anythign with jew b4 it can be used against them. I know its to hard to add everything like that into a bot. Thats why it shouldnt be used as a way to tell who's racist or not. The bot cant explain to the staffers the context of something being said. Much like the thing i said earlier. Cape came on, i said "hey paki" bc he's from pakistan. I ended up getting a warning for it. Thats not racist at all. If ur gonna rely on a bot to do the work, then make it do ALL the work, and make it record the whole conversation or something.

[Verthanthi]

I'll be pissed off if jew gets put in.

Sample conversation:

Shade> Sorry can't make it to the match tommorrow, I'm Jewish.
Yojo> Yeah, I am also a Jew.
Arrogance>Have fun with your High Holy Day!

[NaiLed]

Cape came on, i said "hey paki" bc he's from pakistan. I ended up getting a warning for it. Thats not racist at all. If ur gonna rely on a bot to do the work, then make it do ALL the work, and make it record the whole conversation or something.

if you say "hey paki" do you expect to get away with it, even if it wasn't meant to be malicious? Either you have the IQ of a shoe or think it's cool to bend the rules to see if you can get away with things. Then when you get warned, you whine that it wasn't fair and the warning was unjust

[Hero*]

if you say "hey paki" do you expect to get away with it, even if it wasn't meant to be malicious? Either you have the IQ of a shoe or think it's cool to bend the rules to see if you can get away with things. Then when you get warned, you whine that it wasn't fair and the warning was unjust

Well said Nailed, ps arsenal kicks ass bitch

[dL.Priest]

Hmm

I didn't mean to spark a debate....

I'd say you board people are nuts.... but wouldnt saying that sound a tad bit racist?
"you board people" I don't know why..but It sounds almost racist to me...

Or maybe I'm just a product of PBS after school programming..

Did Oscar the Grouch ever visit a soup kitchen? why didn't they show it?
Why the cheeryness..I would have probably grown up more balanced if I had seen the darker side of human nature portrayed by that show... Big bird pimping elmo... Bert and Ernie shooting crystal meth behind the letter K and The count being locked away forever after trying to solve Pi...

Debate this please..

[Torn Wing]

If I was black, I'd get over it.

[Cig Smoke]

if you say "hey paki" do you expect to get away with it, even if it wasn't meant to be malicious? Either you have the IQ of a shoe or think it's cool to bend the rules to see if you can get away with things. Then when you get warned, you whine that it wasn't fair and the warning was unjust

My point wasnt that i got warned or should of i got warned. My point was i got warned for saying "hey paki" and i wouldnt of got warned for saying "hey azn"

[NaiLed]

maybe that's because "azn" isn't a derogatory term

[Torn Wing]

My point wasnt that i got warned or should of i got warned. My point was i got warned for saying "hey paki" and i wouldnt of got warned for saying "hey azn"

Yeah, Ara warned me about 4 months back for greeting Pakistan in elim also.

[Due]

Yeah, Ara warned me about 4 months back for greeting Pakistan in elim also.

i asked an Q about the N word & got warned by Ara. it was 3 months ago

Ara is warn happy :P

[Gemfire]

why wouldnt 'azn' be racisty? 'paki' is short for pakistanian(or however you say it) while azn is short for asian - same concept, yet oens bad, one isnt? - answer that