Pub

[Sarien]

I think that they should make an arena ?go levterr, specifically for people to go and play there that want to do it. Then adjust the hell out of the leviathan in the public arena.

[Jason]

i'd just like to echo sarien's sentiments. fix the levi.

[Twerp]

I dont really play pub anymore, but i decided to have a go today, and its no way near as fun as it used to be. In my opinion its due to the pure pub settings, where u can only LT in lower pubs that get a max of 25 ppl, due to ppl not wanting to play with newbs tht are only there because they dont know how to change arenas.

I think it would be alot better if Normal pub's were brought back where levis and priv freq are allowed, this would make ppl look forward to pure pub weekends (hopefully getting a high total of players at the weekends too) and ?go base would also get more interest. Plus Levi's are dying out!

I remeber the day when it took ages to get base, then an LT would pop up on roof and Destroy it, and the whole team would change to wb and hunt it Bring it back! bring back the fun! :light:

http://www.trenchwars.org/forums/showthread.php?t=14770
What the heck ???

[dchao]

DIE LEVIs!
:bye1: :death: :chair:

[Sharpshot]

thiers already enough Javs thier should be a limit of 2 javs -_- in purepub nobody spiders or sharks that much

[Firesprout]

id say leave the levi's where they are. in regular pub they are easy pickings and if they do become lts and waste the base, people just flock to pure pub.

[za gophar]

I think that they should make an arena ?go levterr, specifically for people to go and play there that want to do it. Then adjust the hell out of the leviathan in the public arena.

that just would not work. it just wouldnt. its like ?go basing, it would never get used.

i think there maybe could be a pure levi pub. have a closed off base, and every ship but levi and terrier spawns inside of the base. this eliminates the need for baseterrs. people would be able to either levterr, or try to base while being hammered by levterrs.

it sounds crazy but i think it might work. you might say that no one would want to base at all, but i think i personally would want to because it would be challenging but expected. what sucked about the time when there was no pure pub was that you had no chioce but to be hammered by levterrs constantly. this pub would be something you would go to for a challenge, much the same as pure pub, but a different type of challenge.

since no one would be dueling in the spawning area, there would be more people in base for the levterrs to feed on.

[1ight]

The levi should be changed into a new fighter, imo.

[Dameon Angell]

The levi should be changed into a new fighter, imo.

Make it a jav that doesn't bounce nor has lasers.

[Rion.]

The blue bomb is just too powerful for Trench Wars, really, given the basing nature, the small flag room, there is very often a lot of ships crammed into one small place. As we all know all it takes is a bomb on the other side of the flagroom and half of your energy is gone.

However it is my understanding that all bombs are linked in the way that you set the area of effect to the red bomb, and the yellow doubles that, the blue quadruples. (I think)

That said, the blue bomb really is the levi's calling card. Perhaps though it should be able to launch two yellow bombs with a similar delay of shooting twice with the new Weasel with multi on.

Also, since it should still be slow, (but not so ridiculously slow) It could be a good idea for it to shoot two bullets from its side and one from its front, but still be short ranged, though not as slow and a little longer ranged than their current one. See the multifire mode for Shark in ?go Zone66 to see what I mean.

But this is just thoughts... Who knows, it might happen, probably won't..

[Suzie-Q.]

personally i have never had a problem with the levis, only ever really encounter them when purepub is full and im forced to rummage in the other arenas. and i do beileve that LTs add a new twist to being in the base. however saying that it would be nice if they were altered to be more of a viable fighter, like an altered jav or spid but then you have the problem of it not being its own ship anymore, just a copy of another ship with some modifications. The levi is unique and it should be kept but maybe with slight differences. maybe...


Edit: (dont wanna make new post)

below me, the idea of the EMP i kinder of like that

[Sarien]

The blue bomb is just too powerful for Trench Wars, really, given the basing nature, the small flag room

It's just about the equivalent of having a Thor in that situation.
It can kill half the room just by shooting the wall.

only ever really encounter them when purepub is full and im forced to rummage in the other arenas

That's precisely the point. It shouldn't be one or two arenas of good games with people being "forced to rummage" in the other arenas. It should be exactly the -other way around-

We should have 29 pubs full of good games and an arena or two for people that want to go blue bomb turret crazy if they want. That way they get their kicks, and they stop fucking with everybody else. New players learn to play the damn game instead of taking a crash course in being annoying.

My idea for a Lev:
No Attach Req
Speed and Turn Speed of a Spider
Yellow Bombs no bounce or blue bombs that do a LOT less damage. (Depending on how bomb radius is set, I dunno) Essentially you want a bomb that is 1.5 to 1.75 times more powerful than a jav or shark bomb.
OR a straight up jav bomb with EMP. No Bounce.
No Mines (That should be exclusive shark as well as reps)
No Team Greens
Double Barrel Red Bullet, no Multi
No Stealth, No Port, No Rocket

The red bomb with EMP is a lot more suited to heavy artillery than killing everything, considering heavy artillery is more used to shell positions and keep people pinned down than outright blow everything all to hell. It'd do that by leeching power.. and softening defenders..

[apt]

I would like to see this zone balanced out in terms of basing. Basing could be so much more diverse and exciting, and allow plenty of new strategies if all the ships were able to be put to use. Weasel, Lev. Lev needs to be made useful and used in league gg.

[Rudy]

Nevermind what happens to the pubs, people are always going to dislike some aspect of it. So, being the voice of my own inhibitions, this is what I think of their current state. You can always scroll down if you're too self centred to hear what others think.

I used to despise LTs. But I do often reminisce about the days when they would attack flag en masse and obliterate a well defended flag leaving only the energy conservative behind (usually me), who would subequently manage to destroy them before opposing freq claim the flag, if only until the next LT barrage. I may even consider going back to other pubs, but the interest in the flag is never there anymore. At least in purepubs, the focus is generally on the flag. Given that there may only be a handful haunting spawn in lancs and weasels while the rest either roof (sigh) or wander lower flag aimlessly (pretending they are attacking base), at least they have the basic concept.

Too often in purepub everyone tends to think they are the greatest javs ever to play the game. They don't listen when you tell them not to bomb the entrance, they don't listen when you tell them to watch for weasels (Terrguy123> How to use xradar?), they don't listen when you tell them they have fuck all chance against the one spider the enemy have on their freq, as if the two IQ points these blonde bimbos possess is focused on alternating between rocketing and bombing ("My plan is to rocket toward the enemy X and kill it and people will cheer my name because I have saved the world from X and us baser don't like X cause they are lame. lol").

Then there's the weasels themselves. Cowards who should be better spending their time, wasting time in spawn fighting each other in warbirds and calling each other "n00bs". Instead now they dare venture into flag, annoy the fuck out people actually fighting other normal sized ships inceasantly, and dare suggest that they are in some way "owning" them as if being small, or being able to disappear between rocks and hard places does not give them any kind of tactical advantage. No one would give them the time of day if they weren't such a thorn in the deep recesses of the rectum.

And there are the lancs. In past times, a new player would be easily distinguished from the rest by his persistant use of the lanc. They were one hit kill, required no aiming, and were easily dispatched as easily as they could dispatch you. Now, they're rubbish. If I met a serial lanc pilot walking down the street, I would go out of my way to beat the fucker into pulp, carve him into pieces with a rusty pocket knife and feed his internal organs to our dog before continuing my walk, uninterrupted.
They are now nothing more than souped up spiders, firing up to three consecutive shots, one of which can kill you if you aren't fully charged.
I can't stand pub sharking anymore simply because if you are not fully charged (which we often aren't) and a lanc happens to be nearby, you're fucked, even if you rep the first, or even second shot. We just can't take the damage from these steroid pumped motherfuckers. The damage they deal is far greater than the energy they use to dish it out. They were the campers of choice before, now they're the only choice.

Frankly, if DoCk> doesn't re evaluate the imbalance these settings have caused to the other ships, they should be reverted back to how they were. That's the bottom line. The only people that actually enjoy these settings are the wankers that play those ships. Once upon a time we were saying that about levis. So hopefully, their time is running out too. In brief:
Warbirds are fine, they can match it against any ship.
Javs need the damage prox toned down. Anything within four or so ship lengths away are killed by some idiot who can't dodge themselves.
Spiders are fin, but since javs are stupid fucks at watching X, perhaps they should have a draining xradar also.
Fuck levs. I don't even know what their current settings are anyway.
Terriers are too weak against lancs now. 80% of all purepub terrs never last more than 3 minutes within flag battle because any stray from lanc practically halves the terrs chance of survival, which coincidentally keep those flag battle alive (HINT, HINT).
Sharks need either a faster recharge, an extra mine, an extra rep, or more energy. Just something that can make them more enjoyable for those that put up with all the extra bullets flying around. It's bad enough repping jav bombs, now we have to rep simple fucking lanc shots too. Gimme a break.

Being the helpful ZH I am, I find myself spending more and more time explaining what a team should be doing and how to do it (including several painful expletives which help me convey my distress) in order to capture the flag. My advice goes unheard, my time spend typing is wasted, the hair on my head gets thinner thus and I find myself needing to visit the hairdresser less often (hooray?). Beforehand, I was mild mannered. Now I'm a raving psychotic. And I can blame all these problems on the current settings.

If you've read through this, you don't get a coupon to get two minutes of your life back. I owe you nothing. NOTHING!

[Dim]

Half the fun of LTing is getting the satisfaction of killing people in masses and watching them getting annoyed when they respawn and come looking for you.