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  • On the subject of Bounty Hunters

    I know I am not alone in my quest for getting a high bounty in pubs, regardless of the ship. There are, however, countless obstacles, frustrations, and questions of ethics that come to mind while attempting such feats (or trying to destroy others' attempts, if you like). So, if you like Bounty Hunting, read on.

    First off, let's talk about ethics. If you've ever had 400 bounty in a warbird flying across open space then seen a flash of bright light appears over your ship, you know what I'm talking about.

    The problem is: Where do you draw the line?

    Is cloaking someone to death who has no x-radar (or no potential of getting it) unethical? Or is it just a matter of the lesser of two evil's? In reality, it's perfectly within the limits of the game. Of course, Subspace survives on it's player community and it's interactions with one another, so unlike abusing a tactic in a single player game to defeat a CPU to achieve your goals, you subsequently ruin someone else's fun.

    One could argue "that's the point of trying to get alot of bounty", but look at Bounty Races between friends. You each get onto the same frequency (usually in a warbird) and it's a race to 100 bounty. More than one person can attempt to achieve a high bounty without interfering with the other, and since most people, when pubbing, aren't after that same goal, it's perfectly viable.

    The inherent problem is that people are sadistic, pissed off due to in-game or real world events, and enjoy ruining other people's shit. But that doesn't mean you can't do it with a bit of dignity, and in all honestly, you'll feel better doing it the right way, too.

    This is, of course, under the pretention that you don't have friends or squadmates willing to help you out. It's fair to say that any group of 2 or more individuals working together to achieve high bounty for one of their party's group is fair game to any ship or tactic, as two ships can overlap their strengths and their weaknesses to counter any lame, unethical methods of assassination (LT, for example).

    I won't go through the list of everything that could potentially be lame, but suffice to say that instead of cloaking some guy with 300 bounty in a wb, take a wb yourself or whatnot. If he runs, threaten to cloak him. At least you gave him a fair chance before slaughtering the fool.


    Now, in terms of the best ways to achieve bounty in each ship, I'm going to start off with the Warbird, and anyone else interested can add suggestions for it and create their own for the other ships as well.

    If what you post is good, I'll add it to the collection. Also, let's get your thoughts on Bounty Hunting and the ethics of it all, as well as some story's if you have any worth telling.
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  • #2
    The Warbird
    The noblest of all ships, what many subconsciously consider the White Knight of Subspace. It is the ship of choice for duels of honor, and it is, without question, unrivaled in open space. Still very useful in the lower mid-section of the base, of course.

    Hunting Grounds

    Ultimately, it comes down to two choices. Either you stick to the outdoors in a pub with Leviathans to prey on, or you go in-base into a Pure Pub environment, free of levi's and LT's roaming about around or inside the base.

    Prey

    Warbird:
    Only if they're backs are turned to you, they're occupied (vulch them), or just spawned. Remember, you're in the business of self-preservation, and WB's are dangerous, one shot kill ships. Avoid if you can.
    Javelin:
    Rather easy prey, however their one rocket on respawn is dangerous if you aren't careful. Kill them once they fired a bomb or on their way up to the base, but keep a safe distance away.
    Spider:
    Avoid this ship at all costs. Even if you're in great position, it's not worth it. Multiple bullets, and once you fire it only takes one lucky shot to kill you. Even deadlier when in packs. Keep away.
    Leviathan:
    Easy prey, just don't get behind them because they'll usually lay down a warptile and warp/shoot you . Attack from the side, and delay your shot so your prey wastes a rep. Make sure your not close to the center bar or any walls or big rocks (or any rocks, for that matter) as even a miss can proxy-kill you.
    Terrier:
    Good kills when heading towards the base. They're easy to kill when attacking you, simply fire AFTER they've make their bull-like run at you with their weak bullets.
    Weasel:
    Do not fire at a weasel, even if its a guaranteed kill. You're just asking to get hunted and lamed once he/she respawns. Hope that your good grace will cause it to leave you alone. Pray is more like it.
    Lancaster:
    These guys used to be the easiest kill in the game, but with multiple shots theyre now very dangerous prey. Stick to firing long-range shots, but I'd only fire in counter-attack to play it safe.
    Shark:
    Another easy kill, but with 3 reps can be bothersome. DO NOT get behind this ship when chasing. lagmines and/or repping you into an aforementioned mine is a good way so make you cry and him/her laugh.

    Ethics
    The warbird is fair game. Killing any ship, anywhere, spawning, laming, etc. is perfectly acceptable when accumulating bounty. When hunting, it's pretty much fair game as well, although killing a Jav or Shark with high bounty trying to enter the base is a far cry from noble.
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    • #3
      Weasel
      Prey

      Leviathens
      RUN UP BEHIND THE F***ERS AND KABOOOOOOOOMMMMM

      Dont forget this line
      rodneY> ez newbie
      thelevi> you are a cloaker stfu ur ez i was a lev
      rodneY> Ignored

      ^ a good way to boost self esteem when u are shut down
      Big Chill

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      • #4
        The Leviathan
        The noblest of all ships, what many subconsciously consider the Blue Cow of Subspace. It is the ship of choice for blowing shit up, and it is, without question, unrivaled in open space. Still very useful in the lower mid-section of the base, of course.

        Hunting Grounds

        Everywhere. Especially when attached to the red ship.

        Prey

        Warbird:
        Easy, since most idiots in pub couldn't dodge a comatose patient if they tried. Since this is ship 1, you can count on the fact that they're a newbie simply because they don't know how to change their ship.

        Javelin:
        Usually found in base, with lots of walls around. Shitty recharge. Blows up a lot.

        Spider:
        Usually found in base, with lots of walls around. Blows up a lot.

        If encountered outside of base, count on the fact that it's a newbie and can't dodge a blue bomb. (See: Warbird)

        Leviathan:
        Slow, easy to hit in or out of base. Blows up a lot. Since you're a levi, you're going to want to hunt these and kill as many as possible. Levi camraderie at its best.

        Terrier:
        Your friend. Unless you feel like TKing him, in which case you'll have some trouble due to closebombing. Detach, move away, and blow him up.

        Oh.. as for the other team.. usually in base with walls around, blows up a lot.

        Weasel:
        You should have a terrier to spot these for you. If you don't, go back to DSB where you belong. Newbie.

        Lancaster:
        Slow, can't dodge shit. See Warbird, Javelin, Spider.

        Shark:
        Always found in base with no energy. Blows up instantly.

        Ethics
        1)Kill all your teammates first to empty the flag room,
        2) Then wait for the enemies to rush in and kill them.
        or
        2b) Warp to safe - you don't have protection anymore.
        3) Repeat.

        Note: Eventually a bunch of wise guys will form a turret and hunt you. You have blue bombs and they've been playing for less than a week. Don't even try to kill them, your bombs will kill them automatically.
        END MESSAGE

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Profound Magician
          The Leviathan
          The noblest of all ships, what many subconsciously consider the Blue Cow of Subspace. It is the ship of choice for blowing shit up


          Easy, since most idiots in pub couldn't dodge a comatose patient if they tried. Since this is ship 1, you can count on the fact that they're a newbie simply
          lol!
          :P
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          • #6
            it's a game where you kill each other

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            • #7
              ideally your teammates first
              END MESSAGE

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              • #8
                I thought the age of chivalry in Trench Wars ended the day TyeStikk stopped playing actively.
                6:megaman89> im 3 league veteran back off

                Originally posted by Dreamwin
                3 league vet

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Miku19
                  I thought the age of chivalry in Trench Wars ended the day TyeStikk stopped playing actively.
                  If you mean TyeStick^, you need to be beaten with a frying pan... until you die, then ressurrected, to be beaten with a sauce pan for fine flavor for the maggots...

                  And clause, you kinda contridicted yourself by saying Warbirds are the most noble of ships(which they are far from) and then giving less than noble strategies for victory.

                  "There are those who said this day would never come. What have they to say now?"
                  .Halo.

                  Y'know... if you were any stupider, I swear death by laughter would be a real medical occurance.

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                  • #10
                    I think it's hard to find ethics in a spaceship game.
                    Originally posted by Vatican Assassin
                    i just wish it was longer
                    Originally posted by Cops
                    it could have happened in the middle of a park at 2'oclock in the afternoon while your parents were at work and I followed you around all afternoon.

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                    • #11
                      Not many people care.

                      Reading this made one particular moment in my TW history stand out - I had 350~ bounty in Weasel, and had survived just about any combination that the arena could throw at me, including being chased by two terriers at once, both with an antiwarp spider turret. I made it to a safe and just chatted for a while, and when I came out of the safe, someone had actually been waiting there for about 15 minutes in a Weasel, spectating me with X radar on another PC (this was before Weasels had X), and killed me.

                      Actually I think it was some nub called kanmcmee or something.

                      Personally I consider this cheating, no matter what ship you are in. After doing a cheater call I was told by a staff member "Well you'll get no sympathy from me, we all know Weasels are lame.".

                      The point of this anecdote is that noone even cares when "unethical" turns to cheating - And at the end of the day, this is just a game. And yeah, Weasels, cloaking and other assorted "lameness" is part of the game.

                      Just play the game and have fun. If you're not having fun, go outside.
                      G[y]Ro> omfg
                      G[y]Ro> u nerds
                      G[y]Ro> NERDS
                      G[y]Ro> ALL OF U

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                      • #12
                        ok i didnt really read everything cuz im tired and not THAT bored.

                        but in the 2nd post, are you saying that spawning is okay if you are trying to get a big bounty, yet in the 1st post, you talk about ethics?
                        PURE HATRED> i cannot dodge your bombs AND my teammates
                        pv=nrt> YOU ARE MINE PRINCESS iNgeNfyRe
                        hogo> iNgeNfyRe Just got HoE'D
                        Dark Moogoo> psst, bring the cookies and cream

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by iNgeNfyRe
                          ok i didnt really read everything cuz im tired and not THAT bored.

                          but in the 2nd post, are you saying that spawning is okay if you are trying to get a big bounty, yet in the 1st post, you talk about ethics?

                          of course. what does it matter if you get spawned in pub? if you really wanted to survive you can spec or warp on spawn (there's no anti), and your deaths aren't relevant.

                          spawning into the game and shooting someone with high bounty is lame, but someone with high bounty killing someone who just appeared is okay (still lame, but it's not something to be bothered about).

                          in terms of nobility i was referring to it's use in duels, and being the primary ship for TWL (historically and in terms of popularity).
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                          • #14
                            A LOT more people spectate base games than Warbirds by the way.
                            G[y]Ro> omfg
                            G[y]Ro> u nerds
                            G[y]Ro> NERDS
                            G[y]Ro> ALL OF U

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Rion.
                              Actually I think it was some nub called kanmcmee or something.
                              kanucmee. And he's your average pub idiot. A few months ago I got to 1300 bounty almost exclusively by killing him.
                              Originally posted by vubinspiran
                              I hate X very hard.

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