My first time experience propsing an idea to mod directly/upperstaff

[Last Rites]

in other words you just want staff

In other words, i want to let pubbers know I can help them and take time to explain small details to them, with out hesitance.

So jumpy on conclusions. Goto staff that I have low respect for (except a select few)? No thanks.

[Last Rites]

I suggested this in a different thread a few days ago. But to just bump the ZH's into doing the job instead of answering help calls...
The purpose of ZH's was originally built around this job you've given the GT's... so i'm not surprised that he's thrown it out in this way.

Like i said before.. The role of a ZH needs to be re-evaluated, adding a new tag to the equation just complicates things.

Hmm, thanks for your helpful reply, I highly appreciate that sort of income of advice.

[Doc Flabby]

I was online in the game before I had to goto work.

Current Progress:

I have helped 7 ppl. 4 of which replied with a "Thanks man", or "awesomee!"

The other 3 replied "ez" <_<

i've helped out alot of people setting up squads and explaining the bots and twd registerations etc etc or even the simple ones like how do i cloak?

Im sure alot of people in the zone do the same - ive always been able to find help when ive needed it. I think ive only ever done one ?help call in my time at tw and that was to create Flabby. All the rest of the stuff i have needed help with ive got the advice from other players or by using the F1 button :P

big deal you helped 7 people - i dont see how it makes you special.

[Last Rites]

The other 3 replied "ez" <_<

i've helped out alot of people setting up squads and explaining the bots and twd registerations etc etc or even the simple ones like how do i cloak?
Im sure alot of people in the zone do the same. big deal you helped 7 people - i dont see how it makes you special.

Perhaps I did it within 20 minutes before i had togoto work? Hmmmmmmmmmmph. 7 ppl, 20 mnutes. i wonder what that may yeild.

Btw, I dont remember saying I am special. -.-

[Nethila]

your whole thead is yelling "LOOK, I HAVE A TAG AND IM HELPING PUBBERS, LOOK 7 PEOPLE IN 20 MINUTES.. I R L33T.. IM HELPING NEWCOMERS AND I WANNA SHOW OFF"

if you want to help tw community, great! then just stfu and do it quietly like alot of pubbers do.

[deathking]

Bad idea in general. Ill tell u why:

<zh> and <er>s have powers with bots, and power. wut power would ur 'newb helper' have? If u wanna help new comers, why not do it just that way? U dont need a stupid tag to help ppl, and <zh>s are doing much of the help right now anywayz.

Unless ur mods have some sort of power, they are completely useless..

do not pm a bot if ur proposal is denied

this shows that u do not have enough knowledge bout staffs and how the upper/lower staff works

I was online in the game before I had to goto work.

Current Progress:

I have helped 7 ppl. 4 of which replied with a "Thanks man", or "awesomee!"

I will name them ifthey give me permission.

I jsut want to prove a point with this reply:

New things can help, you jsut wont know it until you try it.

Thanks,

Last Rites

Helping new comers and pubbers are nuthin special, we should all do it as a TW whole.

[Kim]

Two things at hand:

1) I see PUSHER viewing da thread, hi pusheR!

2) Seriously, everytime you mention <GT> i just wanna play my ps2 more.

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To be honest in my opinion this guy tried to give a good idea and you as staff flamed him and imo evasive was being sarcastic.

Lower staff is corrupt upper is corrupt.
If you have an idea speak to da1 or motty .

[Kolar]

If you want to sit there and send out helpful macros (without spamming) and want to get others to follow along then do so, I don't see the need for a tag or for staff to make this offical (I.E needing a proposal). If you want to have a GT tag in your name while doing it then do so. I don't get what the problem is but you'll find a lot of problems with people here mainly because the only thing you won't have is staff support or having upper staff making it an offical tag so many will assume you're looking for credit, power or whatever from this.


I think it's still a one sided view of what happened and I think you're blowing it out of proportion. I don't think Diakka, Eva and DoCk> (having talked with all of them for a pretty long time now) or any staffers would respond in such a harsh way without being provoked a lot. Still you should have been prepared for a lot of criticism.


I don't think it's possible for the ZHs to sift through all the text in publics, to sit there for all their time on the game. It should be something they do normally though, have PL and Mantra tell the new ZHs to hang around there if they're not busy.. I do it enough myself but I wouldn't ask anyone much less make it a requirment for being a ZH. There's a simple fix for all of this: add more Zoner's about ?help-and use the public entering msg for information or helpful links, get the Pubbots to msg each person with information (if they're under a X number of usage) or find a way to change the help ticker messages.


I think it was a very normal and polite responce for a staffer. If you come at a person to pitch an idea then try not to make your second supporting argument a rebuttal of unfounded and idiotic accusations against the managment claiming we don't care about the zone and people, for disagreeing with you. Staff is intrested in making the zone better, we all have different ideas so get a better ones or refine yours.

[Nano Tech]

I am new

I dont know how to use the bots for dd!!!

and didnt every1 in this game start in pubs???

to be honest i think i might go play pubs more, the attitude in other arena's stinks. kill someone and say "ez" everytime.....yeah great like i dont know im ez....IM NEW FFS....

and when i get a kill..."luck".........

solve the problem.......make TW a pub only zone lol

PS. can someone give me a straight answer on whether u get anything for guessing the mystery pic contest right??? i asked a ZH or ER in elim and they ignored me, even tho they were talking to other ppl in yellow chat. or i got sarcastic comments from other players lol.

and what is TWl.......is there any info on it on any of the TW sites someone can link to for me?

[Hydride]

Diakka is right: What would that GT do that a ZH doesn't? People ask about things like that and a ZH answers it but they don't waste their time in each pub. If you want this GT why not just do it without the tag? I believe that is how you get staff

oh yeah I might add that ripping up the dean of staff isn't the way to get a proposal taken in.. I would have suggested using TWPS as that is what it is for

[Kolar]

I dont know how to use the bots for dd!!!

and didnt every1 in this game start in pubs???

to be honest i think i might go play pubs more, the attitude in other arena's stinks. kill someone and say "ez" everytime.....yeah great like i dont know im ez....IM NEW FFS....

and when i get a kill..."luck".........

solve the problem.......make TW a pub only zone lol

PS. can someone give me a straight answer on whether u get anything for guessing the mystery pic contest right??? i asked a ZH or ER in elim and they ignored me, even tho they were talking to other ppl in yellow chat. or i got sarcastic comments from other players lol.

and what is TWl.......is there any info on it on any of the TW sites someone can link to for me?

For guessing correctly you get an ER or Moderator to host an event (once), whatever you want. If you want the information fast then just send a ?help.

http://TWL.trenchwars.org

TWL is a highly regarded staff run league for the players of SSCU Trench Wars. To enter into it your squad needs to be at a high score on TWD during the qualification period to be given an invite or be invited (which is hard to say what spot you need to be in considering a lot of squads have broken up, lots of new contenders and changes to the rules ect.. it will be more clear closer to the start of TWL) the past year while still retaining a majority of the rostered players. The league is more structured then TWD; games have set times on Saturday and Sunday, lag limits are more strict and the atmosphere is more competitive. There are 3 divisions with Wabird and Javlin squad Dueling and Basing and maybe a 4th for Spider Dueling. The site will explain it more but I hope that helps.

[froedrick]

Not like the ZH's do a lot anyways

[Nano Tech]

ah thank you Kolar

[Jeenyuss]

<GT> aka the help messages that appear on your screen when you first download the game.