?go Base captains!

[Pressure Drop]

2 problems i have with go base captains is

1) to many fuck tards hog it and i've sat and seen the same caps picked 3 times ina row, these games were pretty much the exact same ppl picked and the exact same out come. If you've just capped 3 in a row why ask for CAP as soon as you see a mod. It wasn't like no one else was asking either becuase going into the 3rd game so many ppl were fed up about 9 asked for cap but it went to the same 2 again :/

2)often staff have no criterea for picking caps other than who says cap first. This often leads to the above happening or just a bad cap in general. Its a hard problem to solve as many ppl don't say cap. But i still think that there should be some way to see who capped last game and cap a different person.

[Herik]

I dont have many problems when i cap ?go base, except that i hate ppl pming me askin for terr/jav/wb.
Usually i try to make everyone plays different ships.
The hard thing is find ppl willing to shark. Yeah, often i ask to change ship, but usually because i sharked the game b4 or even for 2 or 3 consecutive games and im kinda pissed of fat ship.
But theres ppl that never wants to shark. I mean, the goal of ?go base is learning and practicing new ships, imo. So, if other ppl shark to let u play other ships, why shoulnt you do the same? :turned:

[Rab]

1 Do you pick with the intent of winning THAT game at any cost?
2 Do you pick with the intent of encouraging newer players to come into the game?
3 Is it ok to pick with the intent of just making sure that you play yourself?
4 Is it ok to be captain and play at same time?
5 Do you try to 'reward' those people who don't spam during the lineup period by choosing them?
6 Do you play certain ships to make the game more 'fun' or do you play ships that you think have best chance to win?

1 - Yes, but you're allowed to make personal compromises like picking squaddies for example.
2 - No, don't pick newbs, unless you're feeling generous and u like one of them.
3 - Yes, sure.. why not.
4 - Yes, sure.. why not.
5 - No.
6 - Up to you, i start off with a lineup to win, then let people change if they want to.

[Doc Flabby]

ok let me give this advice to improve the caps in ?go base

HELP THE FUCKING CAPS OUT

if the caps ask are u there?

try saying YES so they can tell.

Also give them an idea of what ship to play if they ask

AND DONT PM the cap 1000x time make me jav......

And also maybe pick some of the newer players more often otherwise the only way they get to play is by capping.....

[Wil]

Stay well away from ?go base

[geekbot]

Eph, you're thinking too much. Try kindergarten level:

The point is to have fun:
Competitive games are fun.
Choosing your friends is fun.
Trying out a newbie if he doesn't ruin the game is fun.

Sharing with everyone is also good:
Javving yourself at everyone's expense is not fun.
Adding an 8th player when the other team has lagged to 6 players is not fun.
Putting people in specials could be fun.
Putting together a killer spider team could be fun too.
Trying to be a good cap in spec could be fun for you and help your karma when you respawn into the next life.

Go for two good sharks, an average terr, and don't get too caught up with dorks with attitudes.

[Troll King]

Yeah, forget about those newbies. They never step up when we complain about the lack of good new talent, so why should we help them get the experience to become good new talent?

[Asmodeus]

Yeah, forget about those newbies. They never step up when we complain about the lack of good new talent, so why should we help them get the experience to become good new talent?

Troll King has a point. I remember when I was quite new to ?go Base, I was on STONERZ and no one would give me a chance. I eventually started to learn how to shark by watching Stabwound all the time in shark. Eventually a few Pallies and a few others, when they Capped, gave me a chance. They'd ask me what ship I'd like to play, I said shark.... Sooner or later players started to realize that I could shark and, not to brag but, I get picked as shark often when I go to base now. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if no one had given me a chance, I wouldn't be where I am today in the world of SS.

[Rab]

Troll King has a point. I remember when I was quite new to ?go Base, I was on STONERZ and no one would give me a chance. I eventually started to learn how to shark by watching Stabwound all the time in shark. Eventually a few Pallies and a few others, when they Capped, gave me a chance. They'd ask me what ship I'd like to play, I said shark.... Sooner or later players started to realize that I could shark and, not to brag but, I get picked as shark often when I go to base now. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if no one had given me a chance, I wouldn't be where I am today in the world of SS.

which is where exactly?

[Ephemeral]

1 - Yes, but you're allowed to make personal compromises like picking squaddies for example.
2 - No, don't pick newbs, unless you're feeling generous and u like one of them.
3 - Yes, sure.. why not.
4 - Yes, sure.. why not.
5 - No.
6 - Up to you, i start off with a lineup to win, then let people change if they want to.

Eph, you're thinking too much. Try kindergarten level:
The point is to have fun:
Competitive games are fun.
Choosing your friends is fun.
Trying out a newbie if he doesn't ruin the game is fun.

Guys, that is the way you would do it, which is fine. My point was that not everyone does it the same way. And as long as people are looking at choosing players in different ways, the chance of shitty games will be high.

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[Da1andonly]

Staff (atleast most of them) do not set players they don't have a clue of as captains. This is what we strive for because who knows if it's a random pub newbie who doesn't even know how to /!add and therefore pisses off everyone and in the worst case making ?go base die.

However, there are plenty of times when NO ONE wants cap, making me !kill the game until someone has PMed me with 2 captains. Then I'll start it up. You see, if I'm not going to play, I don't feel like sitting there and asking "cap?" over and over again.

Start capping.

[bounty]

Lets all just get along and play some turretwarz2

[Ephemeral]

...have a clue of as captains...Start capping.

I will start capping when the objective is defined. I have posted above the reasons that I, and probably others, don't cap.

Define 'have a clue'. Someone who can use !add? Someone who picks the 'vets' first? Maybe 'having a clue' is someone who blends newer players in because they see the big picture and cares about the long term health of TW.

Perhaps the proper perspective is that TW is just someone's sandbox and they aren't concerned enough to commit to an high level objective (growth? just a place for fun? etc.) for TW. Without an high level objective for TW, nothing 'lower down' (specific arenas, staff, etc.) has an objective either.
Without a stated objective, no one should be judging anything. No one should be assuming anything. We all should just stfu, play the game as each of us sees fit, and stop caring and bitching about staff, arenas, events, noobs, broken bots, rules, or if anything is fair or not.

But no, instead we decide to all run our mouths, pass judgments on the quality of job some staffer is doing, and complain about rules. Then a guy like me comes along, points out that the purpose of the entire thing isn't defined, and gets accused of wanting to run the stupid thing 'as a business'.
That isn’t the case at all. Example, Little League Baseball. If some kids/parents are there just for ‘fun’, and other kids/parents are there to win at any cost, what happens? Trouble, big trouble. Kids whining and crying, parents getting into fist fights with each other, all because the objective/purpose of the whole thing wasn’t defined. No fucking rocket science, no fucking business models, it is a game for little boys and girls. But it needs not only an objective, but constant reinforcement of the objective so everyone has the correct expectations.

I don’t give a shit whether or not we have any objectives/purpose for TW. What blows me away is it seems like people want it both ways. They want staff to be held responsible, they want to judge the job staff does. If the highest level purpose/objective of TW is simply to exist, then the only thing staff has to measure up to is to exist.
If the purpose of ?go Base is simply to exist and be a little arena where who you know is more important than anything else, then we should all stfu and deal with it.


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[RoDNeY]

i wanna vacuum

[Asmodeus]

which is where exactly?

On Sk8, playing in as many BDs/LBs as I can, and playing as many ?go Base games in shark...I don't have any problems getting picked.