Burden of Proof

[Badshot]

B)

[brookus]

Hero, I'm not sure you understand the concepts of private and public property. You play on a server that is Priit's to do with as he sees fit. He allows you to play on it so long as you follow his rules. Notice how that means you don't get to do whatever you want. You are, in fact, "obligated to play a certain way". When you run your own server, then you can play the game there however you want.

llater,
Tony

[gerry]

I use CE to help me TK in pub.

[Hero*]

Hero, I'm not sure you understand the concepts of private and public property. You play on a server that is Priit's to do with as he sees fit. He allows you to play on it so long as you follow his rules. Notice how that means you don't get to do whatever you want. You are, in fact, "obligated to play a certain way". When you run your own server, then you can play the game there however you want.

llater,
Tony

what do you mean by that sentence? The thing is, I get to do whatever I want. I am not obligated to play a certain way because I don't follow it.

[Hydride]

He means you play on PriitK's server and he can do what he wants as rules on it.

Because he puts money into it and you play on it.

[Hero*]

He means you play on PriitK's server and he can do what he wants as rules on it.

Because he puts money into it and you play on it.

well what about for the people who donate money? puuuuuuuuh? i did once for 50dollars..that was a waste hah.

[Reliable*]

Cape does use CE, he got taught by merce and then Cape taught mess. Infact he asked merce how to do the burst hack on ice chat ages ago. =(

Vys

Shut the fuck up VYS/IVF/untap
You begged Fault AKA Deluge for the evade pack, and YOU evaded to convince PL that you weren't going to hack again on another name, claimimg to PL you were someone else or closely related to "VYS" which was YOU. You have the evading pack, you got banned for 1 year for CEing in a DD, all 5 fucking staff saw it, wouldn't be talking shit, cause you've done more damage with CE then anyone else has, and Cape doesn't CE. 2 different things about talking about it and then another one in using it, don't confuse it. Idiot.Actually i'll give you the log which was located on YOUR chat
9:ivf> yo fault
9:Fault> sup
9:ivf> when u givin me the evade pack
9:Fault> lol
9:ivf> yo dude, they banned me for 3 months wtf
9:Fault> aahahah gg
9:ivf> tellin me i hack
9:Fault> you did LOL
9:ivf> stfu LOL
9:ivf> pm me the shit
9:Fault> k later

[Spikester]

9:ivf> yo fault
9:Fault> sup
9:ivf> when u givin me the evade pack
9:Fault> lol
9:ivf> yo dude, they banned me for 3 months wtf
9:Fault> aahahah gg
9:ivf> tellin me i hack
9:Fault> you did LOL
9:ivf> stfu LOL
9:ivf> pm me the shit
9:Fault> k later

Heh

[Zerzera]

Reliable* doesn't like Fault much? :P

[EnFlAmE]

And of course logs can't be faked or edited in any way.

[Vys]

Shut the fuck up VYS/IVF/untap
You begged Fault AKA Deluge for the evade pack, and YOU evaded to convince PL that you weren't going to hack again on another name, claimimg to PL you were someone else or closely related to "VYS" which was YOU. You have the evading pack, you got banned for 1 year for CEing in a DD, all 5 fucking staff saw it, wouldn't be talking shit, cause you've done more damage with CE then anyone else has, and Cape doesn't CE. 2 different things about talking about it and then another one in using it, don't confuse it. Idiot.Actually i'll give you the log which was located on YOUR chat
9:ivf> yo fault
9:Fault> sup
9:ivf> when u givin me the evade pack
9:Fault> lol
9:ivf> yo dude, they banned me for 3 months wtf
9:Fault> aahahah gg
9:ivf> tellin me i hack
9:Fault> you did LOL
9:ivf> stfu LOL
9:ivf> pm me the shit
9:Fault> k later

Heh nice fake log at the bottom, and yes they did ban me for using CE, but i never cheated, they got my skill mixed up with the CE whats going around, and the CE detection system wasn't there when i got banned.

Oh and nice slagging me off and hiding behind an alias! must be someone who's on my chat and should be kicked off, tell me your alias so i can boot you off, thanks.!

Oh and yes, Cape does cheat, infact he asked me how he could make it so that staff couldn't see he ever had CE on his system and he hates me because i told him i'm not telling him. And when i confronted him about it 2 months ago, he said "Well i only use it in stupid dd's", and he also asked merce how he could do the "burst hack" on ice chat because he forgot how to do it.

And seen as you were on my chat you'll recall Fault keep saying "yo vys just evade i'll give you the evasion pack", but i didn't want it because i thought that Rudy would of unbanned me, (Well i understand why Rudy couldn't unban me because he wasn't at the DD, and it was basically my word against P_L's" from all the evidence me and fireballz produced for him, well lets put it this way, my evidence beats "I got hit by lightening" and "I didn't know". Do you seriously think i would of outwaited my verdict in SSCU RedStar for 3 weeks if i was innocent when fault was throwing evasion packs at me? Think about it before you judge me.


Ok i'm just editing this post because i've found out Reliable* is stamen..where should i begin, oh when i was banned and i got my verdict that i wasn't going to be unbanned i got emailed the evasion packs from fault, and you said on my chat (You was currently doing a ban for lag cheating, which you claimed you was falsly accused, i don't know whether you did lag cheat or not because i wasn't there, so i can't judge) but you was waiting for your verdict, but you still wanted the evasion packs? seems wierd an "innocent" person who's waiting for his verdict asking for evasion packs =/ Well it turns out he's not so innocent, P_L told me he thinks he cheats and is going to checks on him and get the evidence together.

Can i note that stamen used to suck my nuts on my chat, but since he got with the ego kids on dice, he thinks he's something special, but the only reason he's causing shit is because i don't suck up to BAM__ Ashlee like all the rest of the geeks on mega's chat, before i argued with BAM_ Ashlee, we used to be cool... i guess e-nerd wants abit of e-love :wub:

Vys

[Ward]

Heh nice fake log at the bottom, and yes they did ban me for using CE, but i never cheated, they got my skill mixed up with the CE whats going around, and the CE detection system wasn't there when i got banned.

Oh and nice slagging me off and hiding behind an alias! must be someone who's on my chat and should be kicked off, tell me your alias so i can boot you off, thanks.!

Oh and yes, Cape does cheat, infact he asked me how he could make it so that staff couldn't see he ever had CE on his system and he hates me because i told him i'm not telling him. And when i confronted him about it 2 months ago, he said "Well i only use it in stupid dd's", and he also asked merce how he could do the "burst hack" on ice chat because he forgot how to do it.

And seen as you were on my chat you'll recall Fault keep saying "yo vys just evade i'll give you the evasion pack", but i didn't want it because i thought that Rudy would of unbanned me, (Well i understand why Rudy couldn't unban me because he wasn't at the DD, and it was basically my word against P_L's" from all the evidence me and fireballz produced for him, well lets put it this way, my evidence beats "I got hit by lightening" and "I didn't know". Do you seriously think i would of outwaited my verdict in SSCU RedStar for 3 weeks if i was innocent when fault was throwing evasion packs at me? Think about it before you judge me.


Ok i'm just editing this post because i've found out Reliable* is stamen..where should i begin, oh when i was banned and i got my verdict that i wasn't going to be unbanned i got emailed the evasion packs from fault, and you pm'd me (You was currently doing a ban for lag cheating, which you claimed you was falsly accused, i don't know whether you did lag cheat or not because i wasn't there, so i can't judge) but you was waiting for your verdict, but you still wanted the evasion packs? seems wierd an "innocent" person who's waiting for his verdict asking for evasion packs =/ Well it turns out he's not so innocent, P_L told me he thinks he cheats and is going to checks on him and get the evidence together.

Can i note that stamen used to suck my nuts on my chat, but since he got with the ego kids on dice, he thinks he's something special, but the only reason he's causing shit is because i don't suck up to BAM__ Ashlee like all the rest of the geeks on mega's chat, before i argued with BAM_ Ashlee, we used to be cool... i guess e-nerd wants abit of e-love :wub:

Vys

i was on chat when stamen/reliable* asked for an evasion pack. and vys doesnt cheat he's just too leet kthx

[Broly]

lol i was there on mega's chat or vys' chat i think when stamen did ask to know how to evade
dont think vys uses cheats (atleast anymore)

edit: your logs are officially shitworthy now stamen, as you faked one about da1

[Scoop]

Yes i was on chat when he did ask for the evasion packs. Stamen i like you and all but its not cool what your doing here bro. :getlost:

[Reaver]

Sweet, we've successfully turned this thread into a shitload of heresay and pointless accusations. Point is, we'll all form our own opinions of someone, and/or their squad in game. Logs can be edit'ed so don't bother. This thread actually had a very good point to it. There are two problems here. The first is this, why is it so important to prove that someone IS cheating? Is he going to turn around and sue continuum because he was wrongfully banned? Fuck no, he's going to evade the ban. Which brings us to our next problem. Bring back the permanent bans. People will evade their bans, so why is it such a big deal to do the permanent bans? The only solution I can see happening is this: we continue to ban the cheaters that use CE and evade. They eventually run out of their dictionary names, and then we have AznJoex34Z playing in TWLD. What's AznJoex34Z's history? Well we don't know, but before 2 weeks ago, he's never been heard of but now he's on (insert TWL squad here). Now it's AznJoex34Z's responsibility to explain, if staff wants to know, where he came from. Previous squads, and alias's could be some of the things staff needs to know from him. If he can't proove that he's not someone evading a ban (via previous squads and alias's, etc.) well ban him.

Ok, now to get the thread back on track, point out the problems with this solution.