One-tiled ships

[ZeUs!!]

Why not just take out extra blocks so the ships can fit through all the gaps, instead of shrinking them?

[Izor]

Nice to see lots of "outside-the-box thinking" here <_<

lol dont let it fool you that no one likes to think outside the box..we just dont like stupid ideas. Besides I dont think Ive ever actually seen you in game unless you use a diff name, so why would you talk like you know whats good. Probably the smartest thing you said was:

I guess the only ideas worth talking about are changing things back to the way they were or adding more ship restrictions.

'Outside the box' thinking is what gave us the need to fix this..so would you rather keep fucking things up?

[deathking]

what if you'd make them all big so none of them could enter the base

good call

small terrs in noob pubs gets more newb lts

[Troll King]

Take base, the terr cud pilot 2 sharks on it and fly right through a crack into base, and flag. Killing all cram/lining etc.

That's sort of the point. Don't people say that the flag room battles are the best part of basing anyway?

I'm not suggesting that any of these ideas go through; in fact, my initial post said as much. I posed this scenario to get people to start thinking of new ideas. This zone has problems but the only solutions we see are "change it back to the way it was" which was also broken, just not as broken as it is today, or add more restrictions, which will cause problems of its own.

And Izor, I'm not trying to inflate my ego by saying this, but I don't think I need to establish myself or my name in your eyes. I feel I've more than proven myself enough for this community, and if you don't think I have, that's no fault of mine. Again, I apoligize if that sounds like I'm overinflating myself, but I find it more egotistical to think that other people aren't validated just because you, Izor, don't know them.

[GoldenPlums]

Wasn't the small ship thing tried with 'minibase' (or something like that). That was fun, and it kind of worked, but it was painful on the eyes after a while.

[Hakaku]

?go minibase

no, but seriously:

terrs small? just stupid.
weasels small? used to it.
javs small? levis small? scary combo.
lanc small? no clue.
sharks small? possibly.

[GoldenPlums]

lol dont let it fool you that no one likes to think outside the box..we just dont like stupid ideas. Besides I dont think Ive ever actually seen you in game unless you use a diff name, so why would you talk like you know whats good.

This makes me laugh.

Coming from Izor, trenchwar's biggest self-pulicist since girls started posting their boobs.

[Richard Creager]

Nothing is wrong with the old settings.

[Izor]

And Izor, I'm not trying to inflate my ego by saying this, but I don't think I need to establish myself or my name in your eyes. I feel I've more than proven myself enough for this community, and if you don't think I have, that's no fault of mine. Again, I apoligize if that sounds like I'm overinflating myself, but I find it more egotistical to think that other people aren't validated just because you, Izor, don't know them.

I'm just pointing out that if you used to play this game thats fine and you can talk about that, but I've just never seen your name in this new pub, so im unsure how you can know whats right and whats not for it

[Troll King]

I'll admit that I don't play as much as I used to, but I still stop in periodically under a couple of names. I've fought a long time for the zone to improve pubs, while most people are willing to just give up on them. I'm not the kind of fool who would lose touch with what he's been campaigning for.

The whole point of this thread wasn't to push the idea of shrinking other ships forward, but to engage discussion. Just calling these ideas stupid like you did doesn't help. I know those ideas were flawed. I stated some of those flaws myself. I want people to start thinking critically about new ideas, because, as we've seen from most changes made in the last two years, it seems like staff hadn't considered the repercussions of those changes. They aren't the only ones guilty of that though. Just look at the number of times people ask for a limit on javs. Those are knee-jerk reactions that target specific problems and might actually solve them, but will cause newer and possibly bigger problems.

Just look at one response in this thread and you'll see the kind of "inside-the-box" thinking that people suffer from. Shrinking ships will "ruin the cram/line" someone complained. But is that necessarily a bad thing? It may ruin a strategy for playing the game, but that's not the same as ruining the game itself. Strategies come and go.

We need to start thinking along the line of "what if..." and go from there.

[Izor]

What if we reverted back to the settings from 3 years ago? most of the pubbers who play now would find that its totally new to them.

Seriously, if someone had said 'this is a stupid idea' about the 1 tile weasel back when it was in development, it wouldnt have gotten to that this point in the first place. so blame them for not speaking up

[Emaho]

Nothing is wrong with the old settings.

Agreed

[Gasman]

i like the idea of the small shark, but the others not so much. maybe the shark should be shrunk, but other than that i dont think that any other ships should be.

[Fusil]

Mini levs with the same strength bombs, 3 repels and an attach bounty of 100.. Would be cool te keep escaping through the holes as a lev and some desperate wbs hunting you. Although this wouldn't last since people would get sick of it.

Mini levs huh?
Imagine a leviathan being recoiled from the flagroom to the entrance to base after shooting a "same strength bomb" :P
-Fusil

[project dragon]

invent the "shrink" green. :grin: