In Protest of Ship Limits in Pure Pub

[genocidal]

I know, I know, "it's just one pub" "don't play if you don't like it" "too many tks".

Still, I feel that ship limits in a pub defeats the purpose of a pub. There is no denying the fact that pure pub is always the most happening pub and that the basing is top notch due to the bots that do wins and mvps (thanks for that). So limits in this pub do matter, a lot. Since pub 0 is the only one with this bot and with a really active basing atmosphere jav limits are important.

Now that you've found your band-aid solution to everyone wanting to jav and TKing each other I hear problems with too many warbirds or too many weasels. Look, there will always be favourite ships and imposing ship limits on a ship is not going to fix this. I think the TK situation was under control, intentional TKers were dealt with as they always are and players learned to avoid situations where they will get TKed - it's part of the fucking game. If these whiners about TKs are too pussy to figure out how to play around it then they can go play elim or something.

EDIT: An update on my complaints: if you want to play jav it's damn near impossible unless you get lucky. Plus, if you try to change to jav it specs you (which means you won't get the maximum amount of points for your team or get MVP) and if you do it too much it disconnects you and you have to spend another 2 minutes trying to get into pub 0. You really should have thought this through before just doing it.

[Sleuth]

it's just one pub, don't play if you don't like it

I like it

[genocidal]

Thank you for reading my post and making a thoughtful response.

[Chao.]

98% of the time the people who are lucky enough to get the jav don't benefit the team any more than they usually would. (Still TK, Still Roof, etc.)

[Troll King]

Great, so now all those people who wanted to jav before will have to take their tking to the regular pubs. It wasn't enough that banning levis from pure pubs increased the concentration of levis in the other arenas; now the jav problems there will increase as well. Thanks for screwing pub up even more to appease a small group of elites.

[Rudy]

It's just a test for the meantime

[D1st0rt]

You see?
THIS IS WHY NOTHING EVER GETS ACCOMPLISHED!

Everyone bitches about how things need to be done, but then when staff goes ahead and implements a widely suggested idea people bitch about THAT too. And you all wonder why staff is so reluctant to commit to changes?

[Richard Creager]

Great, so now all those people who wanted to jav before will have to take their tking to the regular pubs. It wasn't enough that banning levis from pure pubs increased the concentration of levis in the other arenas; now the jav problems there will increase as well. Thanks for screwing pub up even more to appease a small group of elites.

The less tking in at least one pub, the better.

[Kolar]

This is just a test for now. Personally, basing isn't anything good when your team doesn't know or care how to actually hold the flag room and just wants to bomb the shit out of everything in sight. It is also very hard to ban people for unintentional tking especially when 75% of any given frequency is a jav.

Restrictions suck but are there any serious ideas, that would yeld equal or greater results and wouldn't require months of work, on ways to discourage new players from using this ship? It's not enough to complain. Lets be constructive and cautious here like D1st0rt said. Hell, it only took 2 months from suggesting this to it actually being done.

[za gophar]

this just means that everyone who wanted to jav in pure pub is gonna go do it in other pubs. this is just making other pubs even more flooded with javs. i really dont think it's that great a thing. i was fine with no jav limit.

in addition, it is going to be next to impossible to get jav in pure pub any more.

instead of a jav limit, make a tk limit

[Troll King]

The less tking in at least one pub, the better.

Not if it creates more TKing in all the other pubs. With a higher concentration of javs in the other arenas, it's also likely that there will be more teamkilling in total.

[genocidal]

There is no compelling reason why pub basing should look the same as ?go base or TWLB basing. I think the whole reason behind pubs is to let people do what they want. Yes, I was opposed to levi restrictions and yes I still am. But I keep my mouth shut because pure pub is fun to play sometimes too because of how active it is and how there's actually a point to it (like in other zones).

I don't have a suggestion other than a map change that opens up the flagroom a little bit more. I'm not even sure if I would be happy with that but restricting yet another ship in a PUBLIC seems to defeat the point of a public arena.

Regardless, I think my complaints are valid still even if you decide to keep this in place. There should be some way (which I don't think is possible) to make the person with the most points or most W:L ratio or something able to access these ships - not just first come first serve and you get disconnected if you try too much.

[Richard Creager]

Doesn't matter to me, I can only be in one pub at a time and coincidentally it'll be the one where the 2weekers aren't practicing their same shot every jav does from the flagroom with 0 enemies on radar when they should be moving out and holding the other freq completely in spawn. I don't need the retarded of the retards to be playing on my team EVER. There'll be more tking in other pubs? Well tell them to go to a private arena, or force them by limiting the javs in all of the other pubs, there's still a free jav range in the 2nd pub isn't there? That one doesn't much get the timed thing I know, but it still has no levis, private freqs are another matter but hey you guys who love jav so much can start a priv full of nothing but javs and show how awesome the ship is while dominating the fr with a melee of random ass radius placements that by sheer size of the radius in this zone causes all your enemies and (most liekly) a few (if not all) of your teammates (who are low on nrg from firing) to die. But hey why limit the ship right, we totally need freedom to be tked on attach (with or without the terr going with you) EVERYTIME.

If this fix is so distressing to you troll king wouldn't you be hard pressed to use that instructor's well trained mind to fix the jav? If we don't get to limit them at least SOMEPLACE there STILL needs to be something done about them. So WHAT is it?

[gerry]

can't you make a few lines of code that change the ship of a jav after 5 tks?

[gerry]

instead of a jav limit, make a tk limit

there you go..