In Protest of Ship Limits in Pure Pub

[Fluffz]

...go base...

?go base is some elite unfunny shit totaly unrelated to pub, you should stay there and not come pub and run the fun of others with what you consider "fun" because you cant to is in ?go base (eg javing because you suck too much).

any newbie is welcome in pub0, even in jav if he gets the spot.

i hate this "hey, its just pub who cares if i want a real game i play twl/base" people, why do you even talk about pub, go to pub17 once you have to pub. if pub is only shit anyway it wont matter right? i dont see why you would even join this argumentation.

edit: stay in your fucking pub17 than snyder?!

[Troll King]

But you haven't given them a role, you never figured out what could possibly give them something to do besides try to get x-fers because there is nothing else they would rather do, as I TOLD YOU in my last post.

What about widening the flag room? If we can't (or won't) get rid of levis, the flag room can be widened to at least make levi bombs less effective. That's the kind of thing I'm talking about. If we can't get rid of a problem, let's find a way to at least make it less of a problem.

I also proposed giving them an equally attractive target. Right now, if you look at the map, the base is the only obvious target to shoot at. Of course they'll go and target that for the x-fers. On the other hand, if you look at the actual location of players, because most people do not base, there are actually fewer targets in there. Yet they target the base because the walls make it easier to get more kills. That's why I proposed some other target that will attract levis, preferably somewhere in the spawn areas where there are more ships. Levis want to kill and right now, the base is the easiest target for them. Let's figure out how to give them a bigger target. That way, levis can still get their kills but basers won't be the main recipients. One way to do this is to extend the outer walls of the base farther down into the middle of the map. This would turn the entire middle of the map into a giant courtyard. We could put more bomb-friendly barriers there too. If done correctly, levis would find it easier to shoot around that area than to target the base.

[Fluffz]

so you would take away the fun of blowing up an entire base from levis and still make them annoying enough to be unable to base, which is unavoidable with this blast radius as long as there is a way the shot can get in. obviously thats also unavoidable? does that seems like a win-win situation to you? i like the bot solution better, a LT has nothing to do with base and basers have nothing to do with LTs. yet both have the same rights, as long as upper upper staff doesnt say something else.
however, i could live with a levi in pure pub, just to make it harder. but maybe thats only me. it would be annoying as hell, but that ship is part of the game and the levi is fine as it is as long as it stays out of pure pubs in the form of abusive, selfish, private freq LT masses.

[Sarien]

lol, tk is the same person who thought that maybe we should add more 1 tile ships to pub, so pardon him if hes a bit of a dipshit

And you're the same person along with Ezor that made it your mission to "destroy" pure pubs when they were first introduced, so back at you.


People are jumping down TK's throat unecessarily. This same old shit has been a topic of discussion for years and years. I'm newer to it so I still fully advocate getting level 3 bombs out of the public arenas. He doesn't think they will so he leans more toward mitigating the damage.

Where we both absolutely agree is that "fixing" one arena doesn't do any good. Fix the publics in general, make them all something that causes enough interest as the pure pubs. Sure if you removed the lev, people would bitch for a while, exactly the way they bitched when pure pubs were introduced, and then those same people started to like playing there. They'd complain until it just became the way the game was, and that'd be it.

Whatever you do, don't delude yourself into calling pure pub a testing ground. That's bullshitting yourself and everyone around you. What kinda retarded "testing ground" takes two years without seeing anything learned from it applied to the public arenas as a whole. It was a gift to public basers that got sick of every really good game being screwed over by some idiots in an LT.

[genocidal]

Levis will never be removed and I highly doubt they'll be changed - too many people like them outside of the basing community.

[Apocalypse WOW!]

Please turn the jav limits back on. Thinking you can tell the impact of limiting javs in such a short amount of time is laughable.

If you bastards want your jav shots go to another fucking pub and let pub 0 be what it's supposed to be, a place to test changes.

[D1st0rt]

Levis will never be removed and I highly doubt they'll be changed - too many people like them outside of the basing community.

What ever happened to that ASSWIPE/Man Kitten Meow guy and his "Levi Armada" ?

[DJSlayer]

You guys spend so much time arguing that this thread isn't being fulled with decent dicussion but mindless stabs at people who are actually making the effort to come up with ideas.

It's more than possible to incorporate everyones ideas and test them all at the same time. Why don't you just set up different pubs with different settings that way everyone woul dhave somewhere to go where they could have "fun", whatever that is.

Making one pub good and the others not so good does not work at all. Lets assume that despite TW having no direction that more players are wanted. Imagine being a new player again, wheres the first place you end up and play? Pub! If your new, you don't know about pure pub and chances are you won't land in there at the start! So you get stuck in one of those shitty pubs. Newbs hate being bombed to death in base, and getting spawned when they are trying to get to grips with the ship settings etc.

If you at least set up different pubs in different ways everyone has somewhere to go, and most of the pubs will have less problems. I know this could take a while to implement but it should work in the long run.

TW has some nice ideas which could be put into one or two pubs, pure pub should stay the same now, with the jav limits to encourage basing in there! You can keep one or two where LTs and LT hunters can have their fun, as well as people that prefer pub how it is everywhere else atm. At the same time there could be one with a few setting changes on the ship, lower bombs on levis to level 2 bombs etc.

It sounds complicated but it could work, it would be worth a try anyway. That way everyone could have what they want somewhere and everyone won't be fighting for a place in the one good pub ever running! :grin:

[Supreme Authority]

DJSlayer, gotta agree with u ^-^

2 bad ur brainwave -_-

Jk

Ewww sarien(next post)

[Sarien]

Why don't you just set up different pubs with different settings that way everyone woul dhave somewhere to go where they could have "fun", whatever that is.

Well, mostly because different pubs can't have different settings.

The public arenas are just a single set of arena settings that the server will spawn new ones as necessary when people log in.