Trench Wars pub arenas will eventually kill Subspace

[Wormhole Surfer]

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Shooting down ideas and then repeating exactly what I said doesn't help much. If you are going to make a post like this, you can at least make some suggestions.

Very well, you've persuaded me by your 2 line reply. My suggestion is this: Stop trying to help TW grow. Instead, just let it fade into oblivion where it belongs.

[KrynetiX]

Agreed.

I had the thought actually, that most new players go into trench wars and if the don't like it they never try another zone & likely uninstall the game.

Trench wars will likely -not- fade into oblivion. So making it more fancy with a new tileset is the only concrete good idea. Changing the base to another GOOD base would be fine. But I repeat.. A GOOD BASE! boki sux.. 2dbase or carlito's base .. thats my picks

[Revolve]

The best way to keep TW alive is stop screwing around with it. All these committee's full of newbies and idiots who think they know whats best for the game, or people so blinded by zone objectives that they can't see that nobody wants to base in their little pubs anymore. Just revert 99% of any changes made since Pure_Luck first became Dean, and we will be alright.

[404 Not Found]

Changes seem to directed at map changes to our public arenas.

We can substitute an arena map for a few days for Halloween, Christmas, April Fools Day and so on, yet the rotation of a possible new map seems so difficult....why?

In noting the many pub arenas we have and the lack of people playing in the pub2, pub3 and so on, why not...and this is just a question...set all the pub arenas with settings as our 1st pub and for 1 week...possibly two or even limit it to weekends? Make each pub arena a different map and then rotate them. As they rotate the maps, you will definately see what attarcts the most players.

Do a poll afterwards and not only will there be opinions and feedback, but more interest in playing.

Just leaving the pubs as they are, using the current map will not kick start any action if the attempt to create interest and maintain our population is a concern.

There must be dozens of maps that had been submitted over the years. Re-hash a few. Throw Boki's map up as a timed Arena in pub for a weekend.

Make a change...it really should not be all that difficult.

[bkgmjo]

to this whole mapchange thing.... i personally love the map we have, and i like the tileset too. but this isnt about me so what about just finding out what people like? put up "new" pub maps every(second) weekend, look at the reactions, not just in the forums please, most of the people here havent seen a pub for longer than they take to press esc+a for ages if they havent ?go somewhere in their startups. look at the player numbers, look at the basing action, and if you really find a map players start to like put it up more often, maybe for a week or two. and when people are used to the old AND new one, ask them if they want a change now. should produce way less random complaints and a serious vote. a bot for that should be pretty easy to make. the one you got now is useless since its elim/base/twl players voting for a new map they wont ever use and pubbers voting for the old one being pissed about changes being made almost every day.
if you want another tileset, make one, let them test it for a weekend, and make players vote. nothing easier than that.

if you want more players, ask the ones that already play what they like and they will probably give away good feedback about the zone/game instead of "god this is pissing me off"

[Troll King]

Part of the problem with the new maps is that people expect them to be perfect when they first see them. Once they see a flaw, they get turned off and start pining for the old base that they feel is much better. They forget though that the current base has also received tweaks through the years to make it better.

[bkgmjo]

true. we need longer testing than just a weekend per map and a crappy boki map uploaded frequently. as i said i like the one we have too but if you can show me another one attracts more people and will encourage basing including all ships like they once were im open for a change.

[Sleuth]

The best way to keep TW alive is stop screwing around with it. All these committee's full of newbies and idiots who think they know whats best for the game, or people so blinded by zone objectives that they can't see that nobody wants to base in their little pubs anymore.

Well said, was waiting for someone to say that.

[bkgmjo]

i just checked out all 3 open pubs. and i have to say, god i love to see that. there is basing, midbasing, spawning, roofing, and way less specs and privates than i was used to see IN ALL THREE OF THEM! levis are still too weak and lancs and weasels too strong but this is where you can go on from. this is a place where i would want to continue playing as a new player and even as a vet you have some challange in all places. it is not the extremely hectic basing ?go base offers nor is it nobody being in base and looking like elim in spawn. those are pubs where you can play the way you want to, a public for the public, for everyone, for all ships and likes. thanks alot for going this way.