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  • #46
    Ok, I read thru this forum and everything comes down to this:

    -Friendly, gets along (non-trashtalker or non-whiner).
    -Demonstrates good skill in what your squad is focussed on.
    -Activeness (Plays regularly or a set routine and at when most squad mates play.. Like its silly for an American to get on a largely euro squad, unless they play at 4am all the time).

    What I didn't see discussed here, or maybe I missed it.

    A common problem/trend I see plague most squads these days. Ok, you have a very well skilled warbird dueler on your squad; but after awhile if you don't have 10 game winning steaks and start to lose like 2-3 matches... they leave you and go for the next winning squad...and so on and so on.

    Then you have squad's that don't take a chance on new players (newbs), quickly your squad has a recruitment problem and soon or later more leave and the squad dissolves.

    For your well skilled squad mates, make sure they also demonstrate loyality to the squad.

    Sometimes its good to recruit newbs, because they add new life to the squad.

    But how to recruit a newb with potential?

    -Patience and willingness/seriousness to be trained, shows they have memory to what you are training them in.
    -Persevering and doesn't give up if they lose at first, but rather learn from their mistakes; ambitious to improve.
    -Has fast eye hand coordination and quick response. Some people physically may not be fit for warbird dueling, but might excel with other ships.
    -Good personality and is active.
    -Not demanding to play in matches and willing to accept they don't get a spot on a lineup till they achieve/demonstrate atleast average to above average skill in their focussed area.
    -They also have somewhat of a record, like they play in ELIM or DUEL, or even have past TWD match history. Watchout for aliasers or jokers.....

    Anyhow I'm confident I can take a first day new player with the right attitude, and train up their warbird skill level by abit. Because I have made organized notes. But any new player who expects to be an ace overnight is rather foolish, it takes time to develop skill in this game, the best teacher is experience.

    By the way, I'm not claiming to be an ace myself, but I know I'm atleast above-average skillwise when it comes to warbird dueling. I'm still struggling/learning to get to the next level of skill... as I find it is being disciplined (not to do silly mistakes) and dueler endurance (keeping my cool while dueling, not to panic).

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    • #47
      New players are always great to train because you get to mold them into a model player. Teach them etiquette and the skills and you got yourself a fine new squadmate. But if you recruit from the beginning when a player starts playing Subspace, they are usually more likely to stay with the squad.

      People who have slightly more experience but are still new players tend to leave the squad and are not very interactive with other members. This is because like what WiseCherub said, they squadhop after two-three losses in a row. Teaching loyalty from the beginning is a good way to mold a new player into a smart and friendly veteran later on.
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      • #48
        Originally posted by Kolar
        This is a year and a half old thread, why are people still posting? and hasn't Wadi closed it?
        You're the one who posted the URL to this thread in Knuckle's "Looking for Advice" thread. I assume that makes it relevant enough to stay open. If not, then you have yourself to blame.

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        • #49
          He asked how people think squads should recruit new members, I remembered this thread (the first one I posted I believe) so I thought it would help him. I'm not blaming anyone here, this thread is old and nothing more really has to be said on this topic imo. I assmumed anyone reading the other thread would see that this is here for information only as most threads over 3 months old are closed from further input.
          Last edited by Kolar; 04-08-2004, 11:24 PM.

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          • #50
            Jesus mother humping christ. How old is this thread?

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            • #51
              Big deal bringing back an old thread, maybe its good to cycle this topic every once and awhile; it just might help someone out.

              Khako:
              People who have slightly more experience but are still new players tend to leave the squad and are not very interactive with other members. This is because like what WiseCherub said, they squadhop after two-three losses in a row. Teaching loyalty from the beginning is a good way to mold a new player into a smart and friendly veteran later on.
              Exactly, this is a big problem with squads nowadays trying to establish a well organized and stable squad. I talked with some players who played in this zone for 3-4 years and told me things were quite different back then. Just look at the older squads that sticked around all this time: Disoblige, Paladen, British Squad. These squads are quite well organized. But its sad that No Surrender fell apart (I think one of the oldest squads); mainly due to most of their best players leaving to other squads.

              I find and know most players once they develop the power and skill... they get cocky, fussy, and don't take kindly to many match losses. So they just jump around to the next best thing, and never show any loyality to the squad or the players that trained/helped them.

              Good point, better to train a 1-2 day new player, then a 2-3 month'er.
              Cause why help someone, when they get what they need from you, they leave you in the dust and don't even say "hi" when they start doing good. But then again, its good to keep the competition levels up.... instead of hoarding tactics/tips.

              All I know its best to be prudent with your time, I'm not wasting my time helping an ingrateful player.

              I'd like say a big thanks and acknowledgment to Mr. 420 and Ripper; who both helped me out with warbird dueling. Don't bug these guys, cause they only have so much time to play and help who they want. But they were quite nice to spend time teaching me, and respect them highly for that. And of course the countless # of other friends who helped and we both learned together.

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