Integrated Public Settings

[Doc Flabby]

I just wanted to point out the current map + settings are bizarrely very levi friendly. I've been raking in the kills in a lev. Pub is filled with levis and warbirds hunting them. Its easier to get kills in a levi with these settings than in the old map.

The setting change to reduce the power of the levi bomb, bizzarly makes the ship alot more powerful. Because now if it shoots close it can recharge faster. I got to 107 bty in a levi WITHOUT using a terra.

The timer in all the pubs is nice. But why cant this be done with the normal map and normal settings?

[Ignominy]

I just wanted to point out the current map + settings are bizarrely very levi friendly. I've been raking in the kills in a lev. Pub is filled with levis and warbirds hunting them. Its easier to get kills in a levi with these settings than in the old map.

The setting change to reduce the power of the levi bomb, bizzarly makes the ship alot more powerful. Because now if it shoots close it can recharge faster. I got to 107 bty in a levi WITHOUT using a terra.

The timer in all the pubs is nice. But why cant this be done with the normal map and normal settings?

The difference is that there's people near walls. Base levs existed all the time before purepubs, I don't know if you played then.

[Iguana Bob]

The big weasel still sucks ass. It is no were near as good at basing as when it was small. All you had to do was fix thrust shot but you completely ruined it into nothing more than a solo spawn ship. It sucks at intense basing and is way to slow and not as agile to survive much less actually kill anything. With all the ships with x rader its worthless. Sure the repel helps but you would be much better playing a shark than a weasel. Change it back into something actually useful. Make it small again, fix thrust shot and maybe at the worst give it level 2 bullets but as it is right now it is worthless.

The base itself is nothing more than a glorified boki map. Fun but boki is better.

[Doc Flabby]

The difference is that there's people near walls. Base levs existed all the time before purepubs, I don't know if you played then.

Thats all well and good, but I was never in base :P So many levi shots with this base its ez to get kills

[Delic]

Honestly, I really don't think it's necessary for TW to change pub map.
These temporary maps are fun now and then but it always makes you miss the old map in the end.

That's my opinion about it..

[andrewabcd]

We still need a pub 0 settings for those that want to base. And don't tell me to ?go base as I don't want to wait for it to be over or not get picked, I want to play when I want.

1. no levs. It's no fun having 10-15 people not trying to get flag as you have 5 levs in spawn with 5 others greening them, with 5 others trying to spawn/hunt levs/lts.

2. Somehow remove people in spec that are there for a while. It's no fun when there are 15 people in spec and the arena is full.

3. Ear warp everyone at beginning of the round for purepub. Even those that don't want to :P

So in pub 0 if you got 15 people in spec, and 15 people being levs/lt/hunter, you are left with 10-15 people who are attempting to constantly get and keep flag flagroom 3 minutes. It's always funner with flagroom battles of 15vs15 trying to get flag.

[Troll King]

A 15 vs 15 battle isn't as fun as you think it is. Hell, the current flag room can't even support that size of a crowd all at once, and with how many jav players there are, it'll be worse than an arena with levis. Even if they were all spiders and warbirds and terrs, all semblance of skill would be lost and it'd just be a mass of random bullets and bursts. That's your idea of fun? Give me the 5 vs 5 or 8 vs 8 battles you'd get with that 10-15 baser scenario you mentioned instead.

[andrewabcd]

I've been in pub 0 lots of times when each freq has 15 per freq, and there have been lots of fair fr battles that last a long time.

The new flagroom is bigger than the old one (or it appears to be).

[Darkmoor]

First impressions about the map: Lots of useless clutter around and the tileset is quite bad.

[Troll King]

I've been in pub 0 lots of times when each freq has 15 per freq, and there have been lots of fair fr battles that last a long time.

The new flagroom is bigger than the old one (or it appears to be).

Were all 30 basing, and were all 30 in the flag room at the same time as you suggest doing?

[andrewabcd]

Were all 30 basing, and were all 30 in the flag room at the same time as you suggest doing?

I know at least 20 people were. The rest would have been in mid or doing whatever else.
If you limit the amount of people, no matter what you will still people who do not play to keep the flag for 3 minutes. There will always be the spawners or duelers in spawn, people who play only in mid, or lame from mid or roof. So with 15 people on each freq, you get a higher number of people playing to get/keep flagroom, thus more flagroom battles.

[Troll King]

And yet you think forcibly ear-warping everyone into the flagroom will work? You also forget the other problem with Purepubs. It draws the better basers out of the regular pubs, lowering the quality of those pubs.

[andrewabcd]

The forcibly ear warping was merely a suggestion, I know it sounds crazy and would not work (maybe for pure pub).

Pure pub does draw most good basers there, true. For me it's because I couldn't stand the levs and the duelers/spawners. There was no basing in those arenas, no teamwork. It was a free for all.

[Troll King]

If the problem is a lack of basing in the non-pure pubs, then why suggest something that will make them worse?

[Richard Creager]

I would like to point out that warping in is for leg shavers.